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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: CampeadorShin on October 20, 2006, 02:26:31 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQsPOHeXvp8
They'll probably kill trads, these camps are probably for keeping the sheeple under control.
EDIT to add:
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/apologia/vpost?id=1467007&trail=14
Theres a second video.
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Who's getting revenge?
The Zionists are the ones who NEEDED Hitler to have "Israel" established. Where do you think Hitler got all that money and publicity so quickly? He was a Bohemian.
If I'm not mistaken the Zionists had themselves based in one of Hitler's buildings. It goes into more detail on this at JєωιѕнRacism.com's video about "Jєωιѕн math".
The trads are probably most dangerous "thoughtcriminals" because we have done our best to resist the changes the NWO has snuck into mainstream Catholics.
I think these camps are probably for keeping sheeple, who think everything they know has nothing to do with religion. The secular enemies of the NWO are the ones that will probably end up in these camps.
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Different zones? Probably different levels of "offenders" or areas meant to be used for different purposes.
Didn't it say the "red zone" was running along the train rails? Maybe the red zone is for loading or unloading detainees.
The sheeple will probably figure the gov't is being too harsh. (the sheeple being the guys who believe everything the gov't tells them)
The gov't will need to detain them. But for those of us who know about 9/11 and the connection to the AntiChristic Illuminati...
We are more dangerous to them than sheeple, because once all this stuff about prison camps starts getting to be common knowledge, it will be less difficult to pull people into our movement.
The NWO will probably go after those of us that go around saying "You see!? I told you this was all government sponsored terror!"
The JєωsAgainstZionism are most likely Orthodox Jєωs, even these Jєωs don't like Christians. The Orthodox Jєωs just reestablish the Sanhedrin around a year or two ago.
The Orthodox Jєωs tend to be alot less secular than Zionists, hence they would definately blame Christians, though, I tend to agree that Protestants probably helped Hitler without quarrel.
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The NWO dealt the Old World Order a big blow during the 2nd Vatican Council.
We traditionalists are the remnant of that "Old World Order" of Catholicism.
I think the NWO sees trads as the one group thats most likely to know what's going on.
Hence, we are the one group that poses the biggest threat to them.
I think the list of things that qualifies someone as a "political prisoner" is growing to include things that trads are known for.
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Making references to the constitution, having survival equipment, homeschooling, owning a gun, etc.
I'm sure there are more. Alex Jones is good at this particular kind of information (I would say he is perfectly reliable as a source for this. It's pretty easy for someone to find, and he has done the legwork)
Matthew
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I have a video "Straight from the Joint Chiefs" that speaks of the below.
Mr. Sea toured the Indiana Amtrak Railcar Repair Facility in 1994. There are 10+ maintenance barns here, covering 129 acres. The windows of several buildings have been bricked up. Hence, you have three levels of security for Amtrak repair barns! There are 3 helicopter wind socks. There are high security people turnstiles, and high security lighting for 24-hour operation.
The box car (gas chamber) building fence is marked with special 'RED/BLUE Zone' signs. This corresponds to the 'mission' of the 'RED/BLUE Zone Lists which surfaced in 1996. Under martial law, this will become a death camp. They're only going to handle category one and two 'RED/BLUE Zone people there. This box car facility will be used for execution. One of the barns is large enough to put 4 box cars into.
There are powered vents on the top of the barn to vent the gas out of the building after the box cars have been fumigated. All of the buildings have newly installed 6 inch gas pipes and furnaces installed in all 'railroad barns.'Under martial law, this facility could be immediately used as an SS-style termination gas chamber. Mr. Sea elaborated on the 'RED and BLUE Lists' and what they mean.
The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are initiated.
The BLUE List is also for execution, but later, within 6 weeks of martial law declaration.
When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they'll take you from your home at night, probably around 4 am and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you'll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter and fly you to one of 38 cities where you'll board a 747, 737, or 727. You may be taken straight to a red camp and executed. At some point, martial law will be declared. Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus to have a trial by jury is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail.
At this point, the BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time, the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA. The black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can jam cell phones and CBs while they're executing black operations missions. This means that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you.
In June of 1996, an FBI agent got hold of the Region Three BLUE List (from a CIA agent), and found his own name on it, and those of several others he knew in Virginia. The Regional BLUE List stated that the names on the BLUE List would be picked up 'within six weeks of the actual martial law declaration.' It will work if the 300,000 Soviet troops which are ALREADY
Another source:
The Red List, which allegedly numbers some 2.851,433 consists of those Americans the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr (NWO) globalists consider to be totally beyond re-indoctrination into the NWO mindset; to be hard core resisters that will cause much trouble for their totalitarian enslavement plans.
This group is said to be slated for quick pick-up and immediate termination shortly before declaration of Martial Law. The apprehension of these people would probably occur in the middle of the night in order to be out of sight and kept quiet, though I would think it would be impossible to keep this number of disappearances quiet for any length of time.
Destination for this group would probably be to one of the dozens of cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs, never to be seen or heard from again. This group may consist of patriotic Americans with military experience, people who are active in getting the truth out to American public, members of groups who oppose the NWO plans and believe in traditional Americans values and freedoms, those who strongly believe in the Constitution, etc. If you are a member of this group you are probably a real patriot and to be congratulated, but watch your back.
The Blue List is said to number 3,324,691 and is planned for pick-up about six weeks after martial law is declared. This group is also slated for immediate termination, probably in one of those concentration/death camps.
This group would probably include members of all conservative, patriot, freedom, Constitutionalists, and Christian groups that are considered to be enemies of the Globalists. Remember, the NWO elitists are generally new age earth & satan worshipers, and hate Christians with a passion.
Another source:
The Red listed people are "arrested before unobtrusive plans for mobilization (martial law) are initiated". That is a direct quote (almost, without looking) from the "book".
Blue Listed people are "arrested subsequent to a declaration of martial law ("mobilization" in nαzι terms) ". We have determined that the arrest period for "Blue Listees" will be the immediate SIX weeks following a martial law declaration.
Yellow List - these are citizens who know nothing about the NWO and don't want to know. They are considered to be no threat at all and will be instructed as to how to behave and will most likely do whatever they are told. Unfortunately there are too many of these to be effectively controlled, so many will be killed or starved.
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Scary.
That's all I can say.
Matthew
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Antyshemanic, can you show me how you got this?
So, I'm guessing we would be red and blue list? I'm thinking they'll probably just gun us down where they find us.
Sheeple are yellow.
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:shocked:
Surely they aren't going to be able to round up THAT many Americans.
What is it? One in every three knows 9/11 was an inside job? Out of those three probably half of them know the NWO is behind it.
How are they going to be able to round up so many?
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Hi Camp;
Right now this is under my 'rumors' list', like you I have ?'s as to the 'roundup'.
Al Cuppett is the one that did the video I have,more on him here
http://www.nothingnewunderthesun.org/redbluelist.htm
Summary: An interview with Mr. Sea regarding nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr plans for the U.S. and its citizens
In the spring of 1997, Senior Editor, Professor Ian Stewart, met with "Mr. Sea" (real name known but withheld) to discuss what he has learned first-hand about the coming persecution at the hands of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr operatives. With a seven-inch thick portfolio filled with photographs, news articles, correspondence, etc.
Mr. Sea, a committed Christian, is a former
inspector for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the
Department of Defense, with 31 years of federal service22
in the military, nine with the Department of Defense,
including two years with the Air Staff. Hes a holder of
the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart, the Defense Meritorious
Service Medal, three awards of the Joint Service Medal,
all of the Vietnamese awards, as well as the Joint
Meritorious Unit Medal.
When he retired a few years ago, he was awarded
the Secretary of Defense Civilian Service Medal. Hes
been around the worldto 31 countries on four continents,
and speaks five languages.
Mr. Sea spoke of the coming American h0Ɩ0cαųst/b/uof
the Governments plans for dealing with the non-New World
Orderites. He spoke of the infrastructure that has already
been set up to incarcerate and execute Americans, and the
locations of the facilities that will be used for these
purposes all with photographs, leaving little to the
imagination.
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm
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Hi Trinity,
Do you remember Pam Schuffert, she also wrote about these camps. Funny we have not heard much from her since that article she did last year.
When I get finished cooking my dinner, I will see if her website is still up.
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I may remember her, but I don't recognize the name. Refresh my memory. Is it the one who rescued and tried to convert Jєωs?
Pam Schuffert
US JєωS WARN, "Come OUT of Your CHRISTIANITY WHILE YOU CAN!"
Fri Sep 16, 2005
Her website is still up,but some of her earlier articles are removed like the one 'Are Christians Prepared'.
She has some on the camps & she also writes of 'satanism'.
http://www.americanh0Ɩ0cαųst.net/
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Oh yeah,
I found it in cache & downloaded it .
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antyshemanic,
Could you be a little more specific about your source for that information?
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Ok, I saw the link. But: how do they know who are the "enemies of the NWO?" Is running a website considered a threat? What exactly is a "follower" of one of the red-list people? How could they possibly track that? Which group do I fall into?
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So if we are caught, it would be best if we were on the yellow list and have time to spread the Gospel before we are exterminated. We could go incognito anytime.
:shocked:
It seems these would be the sheeple that might just turn you in if you tried to go against the nwo!!! :tv-disturbed:
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Yeah, they are probably going to kill sheeple who have diseases and genetic disorders first. Don't want them spreading their weaknesses in the slaves' genepool. :franken:
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Yeah, they are probably going to kill sheeple who have diseases and genetic disorders first. Don't want them spreading their weaknesses in the slaves' genepool. :franken:
I would put this under the program of 'population control'. Getting rid of the useless & undesirables. :sad:
On my sheeple comment I was thinking along the line of the program of 'neighborhood watch'. :pop:
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I don't have a website. I haven't written any books. I'm rather poor. I'm not registered at my SSPX parish. I don't have my ow internet account, though at school I do have to sign in with a password. For all anyone knows, I could be a socialist, trad, somewhere in between, or indifferent, and I certainly have no power to stop the NWO if that's what the neocons want.
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Actually, you end up on Blue and Red lists just for knowing.
Yellow is for sheeple that know nothing of the NWO, or at least thats what the article on the previous page said.
I'm not a powerful person either, just an opinionated person.
I have opinions, I defend them, I let them be known whenever related subjects come up.
In other words I'm a "thoughtcriminal", if I may borrow that Orwellian term from his 1984.
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I just listened to a CD (doctrinal conference) on the French Revolution -- the closest thing we have to what will happen here. Open persecution of the Church, etc.
What Fr. Asher pointed out (and he kept relating it to ourselves, to our present day -- Deo Gratias! Bishop Williamson taught him well...) was how evil was NOT as powerful as we assume it was. He shows how a few courageous actions by good men could have stopped the Reign of Terror, etc. but the good men were weak.
He brought up Cardinal Pie's famous quote, that evil is often triumphant only because of the weakness (or indifference) of good men.
I want to be a good man, and I certainly don't want to be indifferent. That way, if God so wills, He can use me for His work.
I think we should all fit ourselves out to be good instruments of God's plan. I think spiritual preparation is #1 in this fight. Gardening, learning manual skills, etc. is good if we have time, but we NEED to be spiritually prepared, and learn as much as we can about our Faith. We will need to teach it to others.
Just remember, a handy tool is NOT cast into the fire! You are always happy to have a tool that does what you wanted it to.
But when you buy an expensive tool and it breaks the first time you try to use it, just think how mad WE get...
If there is a persecution, Our Lady will help her children.
Remember the priests at Hiroshima. (I might have some of the details wrong:) They didn't build a bomb shelter, but they focused on the spiritual. They were praying the ROSARY in their rectory. Although their church was obliterated, their rectory (nearby) completely defied the blast.
There are many such stories here:
http://holysouls.com/sar/rosarymiracle.htm
God bless,
Matthew
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Right, and when the Freemasons who ran the Mexican government on behalf of Washington DC started butchering all the Catholics (practically the whole population) the Catholics would hold battlefield masses where they would present arms to the Blessed Sacrament. Miracles started to happen.
An old man told of how a couple dozen Cristeros armed with whatever they could take from the enemy, defeated around a thousand federal troops in a battle. The Federales were armed with US surplus weapons.
The Spaniards were defended by Saint James the Greater when they were pitted against a superior Muslim army.
Yes, I know of all the miracles God can work during war.
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In that situation I think it would be more along the line of infiltrators or jailhouse snitches. Most of the people are going to be frightened and probably falling apart.
FBI Trains It's Own Civilian Stasi Force
October 25, 2006 -- FBI trains its own civilian "Stasi" force. Across the United States, private citizens have been deputized to "assist" the FBI in counter-terrorism and counter-intelligence activities.
They are graduates of the little-known FBI Citizens Academies, 25 training academies across the United States that have trained citizens in firearms use, collection and preservation of physical evidence, FBI organization, communications, counter-intelligence operations, and drug enforcement. Participants in the program must obtain a security clearance, be a recognized business, civic, religious, or community leader, be 21 years of age with no prior felony conviction, and live or work within the jurisdiction of a participating FBI field office. FBI civilian academy graduates work closely with state and local police.
Started in 1993 at the Phoenix Field Office, FBI Citizens Academies now exist in Albany (NY), Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbia (SC), Dallas, Denver, Honolulu, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Little Rock, Memphis, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Newark (NJ), Omaha, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Portland (OR), St. Louis, and Washington, D.C.
FBI Citizens Academies train their students in the use of the following weapons: 357 Magnum Smith and Wesson revolver; Glock model 22; MP-5 10mm; the U.S. military standard .223 M4 carbine; Glock Model 23; Glock Model 27; and the 12-gauge Remington shotgun.
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/ood/opca/outreach/academy.htm
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"The Gestapo gathered much of its information from private citizens. Even children were taught to report on their parents. The Gestapo's main sources, however, were nαzι party officials who constantly monitored the activities of all citizens [and] used such information to track political opponents."
-- Plaque in the "Propaganda Section" of the h0Ɩ0cαųst Museum in Washington, DC
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The Gestapo is Born
On February 10, 1936, the nαzι Reichstag passed the 'Gestapo Law' which included the following paragraph: "Neither the instructions nor the affairs of the Gestapo will be open to review by the administrative courts." This meant the Gestapo was now above the law and there could be no legal appeal regarding anything it did.
Indeed, the Gestapo became a law unto itself. It was entirely possible for someone to be arrested, interrogated and sent to a cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ for incarceration or summary execution, without any outside legal procedure.
Justice in Hitler's Germany was completely arbitrary, depending on the whim of the man in power, the man who had you in his grip. The legal policy as proclaimed by Hitler in 1938 was: "All means, even if they are not in conformity with existing laws and precedents, are legal if they subserve the will of the Führer."
Surprisingly, the Gestapo was never actually a very big organization. At its peak it employed only about 40,000 individuals, including office personnel and the plain-clothes agents. But each Gestapo agent operated at the center of a large web of spies and informants. The problem for the average citizen was that no one ever knew for sure just who those informants were. It could be anyone, your milkman, the old lady across the street, a quiet co-worker, even a schoolboy. As a result, fear ruled the day.
Most people realized the necessity of self-censorship and generally kept their mouths shut politically, unless they had something positive to say.
Gestapo interrogation methods included: repeated near drownings of a prisoner in a bathtub filled with ice-cold water; electric shocks by attaching wires to hands, feet, ears and genitalia; crushing a man's testicles in a special vice; securing a prisoner's wrists behind his back then hanging him by the arms causing shoulder dislocation; beatings with rubber nightsticks and cow-hide whips; and burning flesh with matches or a soldering iron.
The Gestapo followed Hitler's armies into every country during the conquest of Europe. By pitting neighbor against neighbor, Gestapo agents established the same kind of terror mechanism in each occupied country that had worked so well back in Germany.
The Stasi
East Germany's Ministry for State Security, known as the Stasi, featured probably the most comprehensive internal security operation of the Cold War. The Stasi built an astonishingly widespread network of informants -- researchers estimate that out of a population of 16 million, 400,000 people actively cooperated. The Stasi kept files on up to 6 million East German citizens -- one-third of the entire population.
The Stasi operated with broad power and remarkable attention to detail. All phone calls from the West were monitored, as was all mail. Similar surveillance was routine domestically. Every factory, social club and youth association was infiltrated; many East Germans were persuaded or blackmailed into informing on their own families.
The Stasi kept close tabs on all potential subversives. Stasi agents collected scent samples from people by wiping bits of cloth on objects they had touched. These samples were stored in airtight glass containers and special dogs were trained to track down the person's scent. The agency was authorized to conduct secret smear campaigns against anyone it judged to be a threat; this might include sending anonymous letters and making anonymous phone calls to blackmail the targeted person. Torture was an accepted method of getting information.
Stasi abuses led to protests in Leipzig that helped pave the way for the fall of the Berlin Wall. After reunification, many former Stasi agents were prosecuted. Today, any former Stasi domestic espionage officer is barred from police work in Berlin.
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The government is obviously planning on doing something that will make many people in the US want to break the law apparently.
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Canadians? Who knows. But the Mexicans probably don't know much. They're pretty much occupied with keeping food on the table.
Pretty hard thing to do when you had to flee to a city after the government let big companies in to compete with you and you weren't able to make any money out in the countrysides.
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I wonder what the Canadians and Mexicans think of all this.
Well, this Canadian does not give a rat's behind about that road. I'm not sure I understand this whole thing and why folks are so high strung.
I'm not devouting any energy on this question. And won't either, don't even try :wink:
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Oh, you're a Canadian. No offense but that explains alot.