Author Topic: Flights 11 and 77 didn't take off? (Read 1528 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **on:** August 26, 2007, 06:54:50 PM »

American Airlines - "9/11 Didn't Happen"

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Sunday, August 26, 2007

WikiScanner discovered that American Airlines changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

Original entry was:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).

New entry is:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.

A Google search of the IP address that made the change - 144.9.8.21 - is located at American Airlines.

Why the change American airlines? Did the flights actually operate or did we just imagine all of that?

PinoyMonk · « **Reply #1 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:12:02 PM »

Most curious...

hollingsworth · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2007, 12:00:58 AM »

What I find "most curious" is the fact that many traditional Catholics, who see through the lies and deceit of the post-V2 period, still believe the government lies and media spin on 911.

dust-7 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2007, 01:14:09 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day

The pilots were not hijacked immediately. They were in contact with controllers, who would have tracked them, and referred to them, by flight #. If these flights weren't in the air, that day, then two others with exactly the same #s were up, were lost to controllers, and were used in kamikaze fashion to senselessly kill people on the ground.

If someone tries to 'delist' the flights for that day, they're going to have to get to the controllers, at more than one center, to keep such a story believable. And it still wouldn't be, because of the known history. The people who were killed, were known to be - on those flight numbers.

It's not complicated. It's really not.

dust-7 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2007, 01:24:02 AM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

What I find "most curious" is the fact that many traditional Catholics, who see through the lies and deceit of the post-V2 period, still believe the government lies and media spin on 911.

Or those eager to believe the wildest conspiracy theories, perhaps?

Here's the comment at wiki:

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This article has been hit by so much vandalism because it hit the front page of digg.com yesterday. Apparently the line about Flights 11 and 77 not being scheduled on 9/11 and therefore could not have been hijacked was added by an IP address belonging to American Airlines. Some diggers didn't understand that all this means is that any of AA's hundreds of employees or customers on a WIFI connection they provide could have done that and retaliated against the company by vandalizing the page. This is no longer on the front page of digg and within a few days all should settle back to normal. wraithfivefa 22:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

* Thanks for explaining that to me. Pretty interesting, but whatever debate or thoughts do not belong here. It seems everything is normal now. Thanks (Edwardlay 00:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC))

LINK

Wife&Mother · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2007, 04:22:53 AM »

Subject: FW: number11

Amazing! Do exercise at end

This is SO weird!!!!

THIS IS REALLY FREAKY!

1) New York City has 11 letters
2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.
3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy
the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.
4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.
2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.
3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11
4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5=11
5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9+1+1=11
6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9+1+1=11.
Sheer coincidence..?!

Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2+5+4=11.
2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2+5+4=11.
3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3+1+1+2+4 =11.
4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

''For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allahand lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Still unconvinced about all of this..?!

Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:
1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.
2. Highlight the Q33 NY.
3. Change the font size to 48.
4. Change the actual font to WINGDINGS

What do you think now..?!

hollingsworth · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2007, 11:20:46 AM »

Dust-7
All "wild conspiracy theories" apart, and leaving aside for the moment the possibility that flights 77 and 11 never went up, and putting out of our minds momentarily the number "11," do you believe the government's 911 Report? Do you discount the evidence that seems to point to an "inside job?" Do you accept the explanations offered by the U.S. government and the major media?
Please, no sly, verbal horsefeathers. Just 'yes' or 'no.' Thank you.

Matthew · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2007, 12:34:30 PM »

Quote from: Wife&Mother

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

''For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Of course, one needs to keep in mind that the Quran was inspired by the wild imagination of Mohammad and/or the Devil. We're not talking about Sacred Scripture here.

In fact, it actually makes sense that the Devil wrote that, because it leads Americans to want to "cleanse the middle east" and we all see the result: death, destruction, suffering, hell on earth -- quite a pleasing result for the devil.

The Neocons would like to believe we are doing "God's will" -- but far from it. We (Americans) are doing the devil's work.

Matthew

Vandaler · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2007, 02:18:10 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

What I find "most curious" is the fact that many traditional Catholics, who see through the lies and deceit of the post-V2 period, still believe the government lies and media spin on 911.

I associate very strongly American Airlines and United Airlines with 9/11. The brand names of these companies are heavily damaged.
That an employee of AA removed the company name from the Wiki is of no scandal to me.
(we don't know of course if this was directed by the company or if it was an employee initiative)

What is really surprising is that some traditional Catholics believe the lies and spin on 9/11 from just about anyone without verifying.

The very same Bureau of Transportation lists these flights in the fatality column.
They didn't disappear after all uh ?

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/Paxfatal.htm

Vandaler · « **Reply #9 on:** August 27, 2007, 02:35:29 PM »

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3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy
the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

I suppose you can misspell anyones name and make it 11 letters long. Even though I don't see the point.

Take your pick, his real name is: Ramzi Ahmed Yousef or Ramzi Mohammed Yousef (also translated as Ramzi Yusuf, Ramzi Youssef, Ramzi Yousef)

Vandaler · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:00:37 PM »

Quote from: dust-7

Quote from: hollingsworth
What I find "most curious" is the fact that many traditional Catholics, who see through the lies and deceit of the post-V2 period, still believe the government lies and media spin on 911.

Or those eager to believe the wildest conspiracy theories, perhaps?

Here's the comment at wiki:

Quote

This article has been hit by so much vandalism because it hit the front page of digg.com yesterday. Apparently the line about Flights 11 and 77 not being scheduled on 9/11 and therefore could not have been hijacked was added by an IP address belonging to American Airlines. Some diggers didn't understand that all this means is that any of AA's hundreds of employees or customers on a WIFI connection they provide could have done that and retaliated against the company by vandalizing the page. This is no longer on the front page of digg and within a few days all should settle back to normal. wraithfivefa 22:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

* Thanks for explaining that to me. Pretty interesting, but whatever debate or thoughts do not belong here. It seems everything is normal now. Thanks (Edwardlay 00:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC))

LINK

I misread the whole thing, and thought the only the words "Americans Airline" has been removed from the page. I now see it was much more.

I'm not sure which one gives me the biggest headache, those amusing themselves changing Wiki pages, or those reading anything into it.

Thanks Dust-7 for the link.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2007, 09:33:13 AM »

Speaking of Flight 77: Have any of you missed this one by chance? Good stuff.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/170607Investigation.htm

Author Topic: Flights 11 and 77 didn&#039;t take off? (Read 1528 times)

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