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Offline klasG4e

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Flat Earth Deception
« on: April 27, 2018, 11:12:09 AM »
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  • Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #1 on: April 28, 2018, 02:39:32 AM »
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    It's revealing how this topic keeps going when anyone can see for himself what the reality is.
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    All you need is a builder's level and a tall mountain to see for yourself, first hand.
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    You can look at the full moon and find no shadow underneath it, ever. 
    That would not be the case if the earth were "flat."
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    You can measure the angle between the quarter moon and the sun to find the sun is hundreds of times further away from earth than the moon is, and it's always that way, it never gets significantly closer.
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    All told, with everything we can observe it's rather unbelievable anyone would say the earth is "flat."
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    On this forum flat-earthers have consistently shown themselves to be unable to reason.
    They have committed themselves to flat-earthism and they worship their false god with all their heart, mind and soul.
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    Really pathetic.
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    Offline klasG4e

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #2 on: April 28, 2018, 05:26:51 PM »
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    It's revealing how this topic keeps going when anyone can see for himself what the reality is.
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    All you need is a builder's level and a tall mountain to see for yourself, first hand.
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    You can look at the full moon and find no shadow underneath it, ever.
    That would not be the case if the earth were "flat."
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    You can measure the angle between the quarter moon and the sun to find the sun is hundreds of times further away from earth than the moon is, and it's always that way, it never gets significantly closer.
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    All told, with everything we can observe it's rather unbelievable anyone would say the earth is "flat."
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    On this forum flat-earthers have consistently shown themselves to be unable to reason.
    They have committed themselves to flat-earthism and they worship their false god with all their heart, mind and soul.
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    Really pathetic.
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    Well said Neil!

    I was hoping this thread would draw in some flat earthers, but the website I introduced appears to be like kryptonite to them.  I can certainly understand that.  It's an outstanding site which can be effectively utilized in the battle for God's holy truth!

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #3 on: April 29, 2018, 11:42:06 AM »
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  • You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face.

    Your sensus catolicus is so warped you disbelieve your senses.  You literally disbelieve your own eyes. 

    You don't need Neil's "tall mountain" or silly tools. Thete is no curvature to be seen EVER:

    Not at the beach

    Not from your roof

    Not from Sears Tower

    Not from an airplane

    There is NO CURVATURE

    Offline klasG4e

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #4 on: April 29, 2018, 01:06:10 PM »
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  • You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face.

    Your sensus catolicus is so warped you disbelieve your senses.  You literally disbelieve your own eyes.

    You don't need Neil's "tall mountain" or silly tools. Thete is no curvature to be seen EVER:

    Not at the beach

    Not from your roof

    Not from Sears Tower

    Not from an airplane

    There is NO CURVATURE

    Wow, just think of all those saints that wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in the face.  Amazing!

    Anyway, I'm still waiting for your best flat Earth website to :boxer: with http://flatearthdeception.com/


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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #5 on: April 30, 2018, 06:57:33 AM »
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  • There’s more than one false dichotomy at work here.

    It’s not just just “flat geocentrism” versus “spherical heliocentrism” but also “motionless geocentrism” versus “dynamic heliocentrism” and, further, one physicalist model of the cosmos versus another physicalist model of the cosmos.

    And even if the Earth were the geometric centre of the physical cosmos, this is still a fact:

    The incarnate Logos, not the Earth, is the absolute centre of the order of created things, and that order extends far beyond the naive notion of balls or disks of rock sitting or moving in an empty space.

    The celestial spheres of ancient cosmology are not a form of primitive astronomy any more than the Magnum Opus of alchemy was about turning physical lead into physical gold in a form of primitive chemistry. Idiocy!

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 09:05:21 AM »
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  • The celestial spheres of ancient cosmology are not a form of primitive astronomy any more than the Magnum Opus of alchemy was about turning physical lead into physical gold in a form of primitive chemistry. Idiocy!

    Off-topic maybe, but it's the hermetic tradition (which is essentially anti-Catholic and pagan) that is partly responsible for fooling most people into believing that the earth is a globe.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 09:38:02 AM »
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  • There’s more than one false dichotomy at work here.

    It’s not just just “flat geocentrism” versus “spherical heliocentrism” but also “motionless geocentrism” versus “dynamic heliocentrism” and, further, one physicalist model of the cosmos versus another physicalist model of the cosmos.

    And even if the Earth were the geometric centre of the physical cosmos, this is still a fact:

    The incarnate Logos, not the Earth, is the absolute centre of the order of created things, and that order extends far beyond the naive notion of balls or disks of rock sitting or moving in an empty space.

    The celestial spheres of ancient cosmology are not a form of primitive astronomy any more than the Magnum Opus of alchemy was about turning physical lead into physical gold in a form of primitive chemistry. Idiocy!
    Believing earth is a globe demonstrates the mind's tendency to relativity, obfuscation and lies.  "Believers" are naturally drawn to inaccuracies and falsehoods and refuse to abandon their bent notions. Globalists are purveyors of relativism. They base things and grade on, the curve.  They place pagan science opinion over the Church Father's opinions.  They place pagan scientism over Scripture, saying that the pagans have better knowledge about God's things than God does. Devoid of shame they insist that "level" means "curve".  That the horizon isn't actually horizontal, but that the horizon, is the arc of a sphere! That the surface of water is curved, just not in lakes, pools, ponds or puddles. They say the "round" earth only seems "flat". Their proof? CGI, their favorite visual whopper. Most globalists believe NASA went to the moon and sent back photos of the ball, (or pear, or oblate spheroid) or whatever shape they want to believe about the earth at that moment. As long as it isn't flat.  Just like the Protestants, anything but what's true is fine.  Naturally. Spherical earth gives them freedom of mind to believe whatever. These people enjoy pretending that Scripture's four corners are actually four directions.  They say there is no firmament as Scripture says, but rather infinite space, like Scripture doesn't say.  They nurse on logical fallacies which say earth has no foundation, just hangs suspended in space, so its Scripture that is not scientifically accurate.  They redefine "up" to mean "out".  They believe "down" means "down" only until half way through the globe when it actually switches to "up".  Why not? It's always after meeting up with the devil that "down" actually means "up." The twisted globular mindset is nearly impossible to reason with because those who cling to it, just spread out fig leaves to cover their purposely naked and foolish minds.              


    Offline klasG4e

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 11:32:36 AM »
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  • Bla, bla, bla......Anyway, I'm still waiting for your best flat Earth website to with http://flatearthdeception.com/

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 11:59:59 AM »
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  • Off-topic maybe, but it's the hermetic tradition (which is essentially anti-Catholic and pagan) that is partly responsible for fooling most people into believing that the earth is a globe.
    Stop using words whose meaning you don’t understand.
    It’s prideful and intellectually deceptive.

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #10 on: April 30, 2018, 12:07:00 PM »
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  • Don’t you love it when people who talk about “scientistism” project onto the writings of the ancients a physicalist form and the very interpretation of their views that was foisted upon them by the proponents of “scientism” in order ridicule the as naive?

    I suppose you also think that when the Greeks were talking about air, fire or water as the primal constituent of the hyla, they were talking about the stuff you breathe, that you strike with a match, and that fills your glass when you run the tap.


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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #11 on: April 30, 2018, 12:12:31 PM »
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  • Stop using words whose meaning you don’t understand.
    It’s prideful and intellectually deceptive.

    Right. Only those who truly understand the ancient wisdom can have a grasp of reality. I've heard it before. Occultist nonsense.

    Which occult tradition do you ascribe to? OTO? Golden Dawn? Or perhaps a more lightweight form of perennialism? 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2018, 10:17:14 AM »
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  • Wow, just think of all those saints that wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in the face.  Amazing!

    Anyway, I'm still waiting for your best flat Earth website to :boxer: with http://flatearthdeception.com/
    Don't have a favorite site,but have a ffavorite book:
    The Greatest Lie On Earth by Edward Hendrie

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #13 on: May 01, 2018, 12:30:38 PM »
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  • Don't have a favorite site,but have a ffavorite book:
    The Greatest Lie On Earth by Edward Hendrie

    Wow, you don't say Smedley!  Seems as though the mask drops.


    Quite an interesting pick considering that the book's author Edward Hendrie is a fallen away apostate Catholic.  And Hendrie is not your typical garden variety apostate Catholic.  No sireeee!  He's an extremely vicious and very public anti-Catholic who writes entire diatribe books against the Catholic Church.  He's a self-righteous anti-Catholic who claims the Cathoic Church is a false and evil church which down through the ages has pushed a false and wickedly deceptive religion/faith.

    He is a man who is hosted on public shows such as that of another notorious anti-Cathoic Texe Marrs (interview heard on youtube) where he lashes out with his venom against the Catholic Church.  He claims the Catholic Church has deceived the masses by pushing the idea of a globe Earth instead of a flat Earth.

    It would appear that in Hendrie's misguided efforts to try to totally discredit the Catholic Church he has added on to his litany of evils the idea that the Church must be false because it has over the centuries misguided its flock into believing that the Earth is a globe instead of flat.  Go figure.

    In any event, if Smedley's favorite book The Greatest Lie On Earth is not enough for your reading pleasure you might want to indulge yourself in another of Edward Hendrie's "classics," Solving the Mysteries of Babylon the Great.  Below the asterisks is the official description of the book taken off of Amazon.
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    Solving the Mysteries of Babylon the Great by Edward Hendrie

    “Attorney and Christian researcher Edward Hendrie investigates and reveals one of the greatest exposés of all time. . . . a book you don’t want to miss. Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great is packed with docuмentation. Never before have the crypto-Jєωs who seized the reins of power in Rome been put under such intense scrutiny.” Texe Marrs, Power of Prophecy.

    People have wondered for centuries about the identity of the mysterious BABYLON THE GREAT in the book of Revelation. This book examines the historical evidence in light of the scriptures and solves the mystery. The evidence leads to the ineluctable conclusion that the Roman Catholic Church was established by crypto-Jєωs as a false “Christian” front for a Judaic/Babylonian religion. That religion is the core of a world conspiracy against man and God. That is not a conspiracy theory based upon speculation, but rather the hard truth based upon authoritative evidence, which is docuмented in this book.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Flat Earth Deception
    « Reply #14 on: May 01, 2018, 06:34:28 PM »
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  • He's an extremely vicious and very public anti-Catholic ... a self-righteous anti-Catholic who claims the Catholic Church is a false and evil church which down through the ages has pushed a false and wickedly deceptive religion/faith.
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    I happened to jump in right there and thought you were talking about this:
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    (Linked as "Roman Catholic Beliefs" on flatearthdeception.com)

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    This video lists 10 Catholic doctrines that are not Scriptural. The Protestant Reformers; Martin Luther, John Calvin, Huldreich Zwingli, John Knox and others; were Catholics, who when they were able to read the Scriptures (after being forbidden to by the Roman church, who taught only in Latin), proclaimed that what the Catholic church teaches is contrary to the Scriptures; so they left the church... After comparing what the Popes teach against the Scriptures, you too should come out of the Roman Catholic church!

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