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Re: Flat Earth-curious
« Reply #140 on: January 10, 2022, 07:18:29 PM »
At what distance?

How many miles out?
What height is the ship, what height is the observer (eye height)? We need a few more parameters.

When we have those, we can calculate it as described here: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/593064/how-to-calculate-how-much-of-an-object-is-hidden-due-to-earth-curvature

Earth's radius is 3959mi or 6371km.

Or we use this simpler formula: h = 6,371km * (1 - cos(0.009° * d))
We could solve for d here if h is known (too tired for that right now).
Let's assume the observer is on water level, and the ship is 30m high.

6371 * (1 - cos(0,009 * 19,55)) = 30m
So that gives us roughly d = 19,55km fo ar distance with the assumption of no atmospheric effects going on for the ship to stay visible longer or shorter.

Re: Flat Earth-curious
« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2022, 07:24:44 PM »
What height is the ship, what height is the observer (eye height)? We need a few more parameters.

When we have those, we can calculate it as described here: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/593064/how-to-calculate-how-much-of-an-object-is-hidden-due-to-earth-curvature

Earth's radius is 3959mi or 6371km.

Or we use this simpler formula: h = 6,371km * (1 - cos(0.009° * d))
We could solve for d here if h is known (too tired for that right now).
Let's assume the observer is on water level, and the ship is 30m high.

6371 * (1 - cos(0,009 * 19,55)) = 30m
So that gives us roughly d = 19,55km fo ar distance with the assumption of no atmospheric effects going on for the ship to stay visible longer or shorter.


Is there an earth curve calculator we can use?


Re: Flat Earth-curious
« Reply #142 on: January 10, 2022, 07:43:04 PM »

Thanks

Can you or anyone else here who prefer the Ball Earth theory find out how far out the average ship needs to get?

Say an average person is on the beach watching a ship go out to sea.

What does the Ball Earth theory say?

I'm sure after centuries of this and with all of the technology available it has been measured accurately right?

I mean on a clear day.

I just want to know when the actual physical obstruction the curve of earth kicks in.
You're welcome, but it won't be me to provide you with that. I mentioned something briefly to my husband (former pilot when he was younger) and he is too busy to bother with any of this. He mentioned a few things about wind speed, knots, height of the mast and so on, and I tuned out.

Ask another physics and math geek.

Re: Flat Earth-curious
« Reply #143 on: January 10, 2022, 07:46:39 PM »
Good. We know really well how it works exactly, we understand the seasons and sunlight very well. But the good thing is that even if "NASA" (most science) was totally off, the scientific method would allow us to gradually gather new evidence until we have figured out a complete, working model.
"In an ideal world, flat Earthers would some day once again figure out that earth is in fact a spheroid" - unless they keep holding themselves back by biases.

This is what 24h Sun looks like on flat earth, this is the winter Sun lighting FE:


FE vs. GE

What do you think, which model explains it better?

Because the FE animation is what would have to happen on a flat surface, regardless of the map being a EAP map (globe projection).
No question the bottom one. That's all I need to know. Thanks for this animation!

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Re: Flat Earth-curious
« Reply #144 on: January 10, 2022, 07:51:12 PM »
#1, there is no 24-hour sun in Antarctica.
#2, the climate of Antarctica is massively colder than that of its opposite "pole" which it should not be based on the tilt model
#3, that first one is not an accurate picture of FE, which holds that there's a firmament which reflects the sun when it hits its outer limts, which does cause there to be more sun in the Antarctic, but never a 24-hour sun.

There was a timelapse video made pretending to show the 24-hour sun from Antarctica but it was proven to be a hoax due to absolutely identical cloud detail at the beginning and at the end of the video.  Why fake it if there's a real 24-hour sun.