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This is reasonable, DL.

The semi-dogmatic flat Earthers are way out of line here. They don’t even have a remotely credible model, but want to claim that FE is almost a fact.

No need to be dogmatic and unite your identity to either side.  That shuts down one's ability to question things.

It's fun and interesting to just wonder like a kid wonders and investigate to find out more.

The thing is that I never found the globe model to be remotely credible even as a kid.

I never understood how we can be spinning 1000 miles per hour. ??

How does water stick to a ball, especially to a spinning ball?

Why can't we see the curve of the earth on the horizon?

How does water curve when it always finds level?

How can we be shooting through space and still have the same constellations year after year for thousands of years?

Wouldn't the planes flying over Australia be upside down?  Why not?

Where is the firmament?  Does it surround the globe?  But they say space is ever expanding.  So where is the firmament?  

So many things don't make sense.

But if you ask questions you get laughed at and mocked and ridiculed.

That's even weirder to me!  Why? 

What's wrong with asking questions?

It seems like the Emperor's New Clothes in a lot of ways.

When that pilot told me I needed to be a Freemason to know the answer I was even more curious!


I mean look at all of the things we have been lied to about:

Going to the moon  (they really got everyone to believe it! lol :P)
Covid shots are safe and effective
PCR tests tell you what you have
We evolved from apes
There are 75 or more "genders"
Building 7 fell due to fire
Flight 93 was absorbed into the ground

How do they get away with this stuff? 

Answer:  Make fun of people who ask questions.

Don't ask questions.  Smart people believe what they are told.  Only dumb people ask questions, right?


It goes on and on to where it's like, "So what haven't they lied about?"

That's a good playlist.

Strange though.  The 32nd Degree Mason Talks About Flat Earth video is 1 hour 27min and 27 seconds.

Click on it to watch and it only plays for 1 minute 59 seconds.  ???

One of the best Youtube channels out there on Flat Earth is impossible to find using the Youtube search engines.  I only found it because the Taboo Conspiracy guy had a link to it.  

"Dr. John D"
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrV1BQhaufM-PsEtMjjehDQ/videos

Here's  a brief summar of one of his videos by another FE.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aEwja2tfbQTS/

How about a flashlight and an onion

My results were somewhat inconclusive at first. You could see the light from the flashlight lighting up the very edge of the onion with sharp, definitive light, but the part of the onion that was closer to me was comparatively dark. There were rays of light going directly into my eyes from the flashlight, which reminded me of the rays of light from the sunset that come visibly towards you over the water. Unfortunately they made it very hard to see!

I decided to try it from another angle as it seems impossible to objectively tell if the onion was actually being lit at the top or not. From a side view if you hold the onion level with the edge of a table, you can slowly move the flashlight up and down in height to see where the sun's rays would be illuminating the earth. Using this method, the onion was lit up even when the flashlight was well below it! I am sure this method is not perfect, but I believe it to be more accurate than the paper towels with a candle. The onion is round, instead of cylindrical (and I don't have a candle, but figured the sun irl to be way more powerful than any flashlight anyways )

Actually out of fairness, I ended up trying it with a lighter flame as well. This was a lot less bright in general and didn't light up the onion very well at all, but given this same side view it was basically just a dimmer, less defined version of what the flashlight showed.

I would post pics of the flashlight version, but unfortunately my flashlight and my camera are one and the same

Interesting.  :)

Well, one thing of note is that the size of the sun (even when it's at its largest) as it sets is rather tiny compared to the size of the horizon line.

The flashlight is huge compared to the horizon line of the onion.  

Imagine how big that sun would be in real life! :O

And the curve of the horizon line on the onion is very different from real life.

The paper towels give you a long horizon line (like the ocean) for the tiny sun to set behind.

There is no curve on the left and the right on the paper towels just like there is no curve on the left and on the right with the ocean horizon.

Just a big long line with a little sun going down in the middle of it.

I tried it with the flashlight and the paper towels just now and it still demonstrates the principle pretty well.

Especially when you look at the how low the sun is in the video.

We aren't just looking to see if there is light in the sky.  We are looking at the reflection of the sun on the water. 

How far can the light reach on the ground level.
 
That reflection is still visible all the way across the water to the viewers feet even at the 24:44 mark.










I'm not sure what to make of the ceiling light.  It's hard for me to grasp how it compares to the reflection on the water. :/