I didn’t know that about Netflix, thanks. Just more proof to me that FE is most likely a disinformation campaign. The feigned suppression is a telltale sign.

Yes.  There is a Flat Earth Society too.  It spreads dumb false notions about what most Flat Earthers believe.

Someone else brought up the notion that nobody has ever explained how the seasons work on Flat Earth.

You can go to Bitchute and put in "Flat Earth Seasons" and find a number of videos explaining it.

Try to do the same search at Youtube and you'll only find NASA based debunkers.

It's the same story with 911, covid facts, "gender theory", evolution, etc. etc.

FE was very popular at Youtube for a number of years but they got their channels removed and or buried and they've had to move elsewhere.

Yes.  There is a Flat Earth Society too.  It spreads dumb false notions about what most Flat Earthers believe.

Someone else brought up the notion that nobody has ever explained how the seasons work on Flat Earth.

You can go to Bitchute and put in "Flat Earth Seasons" and find a number of videos explaining it.

Try to do the same search at Youtube and you'll only find NASA based debunkers.

It's the same story with 911, covid facts, "gender theory", evolution, etc. etc.

After the original founder of FE passed away (toward the end of his life, his home somehow burned down and he lost nearly all of his materials related to FE), some other mysterious fellow swooped in and rebooted it.  Most FEs believe that the guy is a government disinfo agent.

You're correct, that the behavior of the search engines with regard to FE is the same as with other cօռspιʀαcιҽs they're trying to suppress:  COVID jab, 9/11 truth, etc.  FE even has a more specialized treatment from Google and Youtube.  If you DO find an FE video, they stick this "disclaimer" tag at the bottom denouncing Flat Earh.  They don't do that even for these other issues.  In fact, I go to the Youtube search engine, and put in not only the term "Flat Earth" but even the exact name of the youtube channel (in cases where I know it) and the channel STILL doesn't come up in their search results.  It's ridiculous.

With these other issues two, one of their favorite tactics is controlled opposition.  So, for instance, they let Alex Jones enjoy a certain amount of notoriety ... but then took out William Cooper (whom Jones effectively ended up replacing).  Jones is actually Bill Hicks, who was brought onto the alphabet payrolls to become Alex Jones.  They let part of the truth out ... for audiences that already know it, so that the gatekeeper could keep them away from certain other issues due to the credibilit he gained from exposing some of the others.  So, for instance, Jones has been covering for the Jews his entire career.  He keeps talking about "international bankers" but but then dismisses and ridicules anyone who mentions that those bankers happen to be Jews.

 In fact, I go to the Youtube search engine, and put in not only the term "Flat Earth" but even the exact name of the youtube channel (in cases where I know it) and the channel STILL doesn't come up in their search results.  It's ridiculous.

Right.  There are many videos there explaining how the seasons work on FE but they won't come up in a search.

I often end up at Bitchute looking for info even though there are many, many more FE videos at Youtube.  They are just so hard to find.

They were not actually fake. In the most popular one, it was footage of the Sun going over 360 degrees around, where the last few degrees just started from the beginning again, so it was a loop.

Now what FEers should do is not "debunk" the looped 360th degree, but focus on the other 359 degrees instead. Because that's 24h already.

Here's a totally different video:


And here's a 360° version of it (pan to look around):


I mean, you can keep denying it, because it's easier for you FE folks if you don't have to explain it, but an explanation for Sun on the complete ice ring would still be quite interesting to hear.

Well, the endless sun in both the arctic and Antarctic in summer is always in sunset mode, wouldn't that be correct? It's never full sun there, even in summer. I can see how that would lend itself to the idea of a ball earth, but it could work on a flat earth too, since on a flat earth, the sun still moves above and around the entirety of the earth in 24 hours, and could show a sunset mode in both the arctic and Antarctic, even though the Antarctic surrounds the earth.

After the original founder of FE passed away (toward the end of his life, his home somehow burned down and he lost nearly all of his materials related to FE), some other mysterious fellow swooped in and rebooted it.  Most FEs believe that the guy is a government disinfo agent.

You're correct, that the behavior of the search engines with regard to FE is the same as with other cօռspιʀαcιҽs they're trying to suppress:  COVID jab, 9/11 truth, etc.  FE even has a more specialized treatment from Google and Youtube.  If you DO find an FE video, they stick this "disclaimer" tag at the bottom denouncing Flat Earh.  They don't do that even for these other issues.  In fact, I go to the Youtube search engine, and put in not only the term "Flat Earth" but even the exact name of the youtube channel (in cases where I know it) and the channel STILL doesn't come up in their search results.  It's ridiculous.

With these other issues two, one of their favorite tactics is controlled opposition.  So, for instance, they let Alex Jones enjoy a certain amount of notoriety ... but then took out William Cooper (whom Jones effectively ended up replacing).  Jones is actually Bill Hicks, who was brought onto the alphabet payrolls to become Alex Jones.  They let part of the truth out ... for audiences that already know it, so that the gatekeeper could keep them away from certain other issues due to the credibilit he gained from exposing some of the others.  So, for instance, Jones has been covering for the Jєωs his entire career.  He keeps talking about "international bankers" but but then dismisses and ridicules anyone who mentions that those bankers happen to be Jєωs.

I have to be honest with you here, Lad. Your credibility is going downhill. I like a good conspiracy just like everyone else on Cathinfo, but you seriously need to reevaluate this stuff. 

Ladislaus, Matthew, Tradman, and Meg, off the top of my head, are all Flat earthers.

I lean Flat earth, but definitively hold to the Hebrew conception of the earth/cosmos. I held FE more firmly for a time, but since I can't make a positive claim of the earth being flat, globe or "convex", all I know is modern cosmology is satanic bunk and Scripture is Truth.

This is reasonable, DL.

The semi-dogmatic flat Earthers are way out of line here. They don’t even have a remotely credible model, but want to claim that FE is almost a fact. 

This is reasonable, DL.

The semi-dogmatic flat Earthers are way out of line here. They don’t even have a remotely credible model, but want to claim that FE is almost a fact.

I had that initial zeal for it that made me think it was utter fact. But, the more I've reflected on it, I've decided to take a step back and have a more prudential position on the whole FE vs GE debate.

I still find the ground-based experiments for FE most compelling, and why I yet lean that direction, but primarily the Scriptural support for a world unlike that we are sold by mainstream science is why I hold to the Hebrew cosmological model. And the Convex Earth docuмentary Lad shared comes to a similar conclusion to that of the Hebrew model, which is very interesting.

I've also become very suspicious on how heated the topic can be on both sides. Which tells me there's something awry with the subject.

Try it with a candle and a roll of paper towels.  :)

How about a flashlight and an onion 

My results were somewhat inconclusive at first. You could see the light from the flashlight lighting up the very edge of the onion with sharp, definitive light, but the part of the onion that was closer to me was comparatively dark. There were rays of light going directly into my eyes from the flashlight, which reminded me of the rays of light from the sunset that come visibly towards you over the water. Unfortunately they made it very hard to see!

I decided to try it from another angle as it seems impossible to objectively tell if the onion was actually being lit at the top or not. From a side view if you hold the onion level with the edge of a table, you can slowly move the flashlight up and down in height to see where the sun's rays would be illuminating the earth. Using this method, the onion was lit up even when the flashlight was well below it! I am sure this method is not perfect, but I believe it to be more accurate than the paper towels with a candle. The onion is round, instead of cylindrical (and I don't have a candle, but figured the sun irl to be way more powerful than any flashlight anyways ) 

Actually out of fairness, I ended up trying it with a lighter flame as well. This was a lot less bright in general and didn't light up the onion very well at all, but given this same side view it was basically just a dimmer, less defined version of what the flashlight showed. 

I would post pics of the flashlight version, but unfortunately my flashlight and my camera are one and the same 

However, while doing this experiment, I did notice another example of how light could behave in the way that you see during sunsets on RE. 

The following pictures show a recessed light fixture. The lightbulb is higher up than the fixture and ceiling that contain it. Despite this, it illuminates the ceiling clearly. Now, better than this, you can see that this ceiling is tiered. A little over 1ft past the light fixture, the ceiling rises up by about 1ft. (This section of the wall is painted green, while the ceiling is white)

You can see in the photos that the higher part of the ceiling is not illuminated in the same way as the part by the light fixture. What this demonstrates (unless I am misinterpreting here) is that the light can bend around slightly greater than 90⁰ corners. It does have limits though, and you can see it reaches the limit when trying to illuminate the higher portion of the ceiling. 

Let me know what you think of this :)