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Offline Dankward

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Re: Flat Earth-curious
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2022, 10:05:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on January 06, 2022, 04:44:11 PM

    Cera and Miser, the flight routes are actually not true. If you book a flight from Sydney to Santiago, it will follow a route across the pacific ocean which is a circular flight path when mapped to a EAP map, as shown below. That is because this route follows a straight line on the sphere that is Earth.



    More here: https://flatearth.ws/southern-flight
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #76 on: January 06, 2022, 10:19:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 06, 2022, 09:25:56 PM
    That's no mere claim.  There are a couple time-lapse films allegedly showing 24h sun that were proven to be fakes.  Why fake it if it exists?  Just do a real video.
    They were not actually fake. In the most popular one, it was footage of the Sun going over 360 degrees around, where the last few degrees just started from the beginning again, so it was a loop.

    Now what FEers should do is not "debunk" the looped 360th degree, but focus on the other 359 degrees instead. Because that's 24h already.

    Here's a totally different video:


    And here's a 360° version of it (pan to look around):


    I mean, you can keep denying it, because it's easier for you FE folks if you don't have to explain it, but an explanation for Sun on the complete ice ring would still be quite interesting to hear.
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #77 on: January 06, 2022, 10:45:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Dingbat on January 06, 2022, 07:57:26 PM
    I don't profess to be smart enough to look at the calculations, make my own, or verify others' calculations with any kind of confidence. That's part of why I kinda ignore the NASA/YouTube side of things. How am I to know whether these people are fooling me with silver tongue?

    What I do understand is what I can see. What I trust is that which is available freely from non-zog sources. Someone innocently posting sunset timelapses because they like photography is someone I trust 1000x over an explicit NASA or FE (or RE) source.

    I hate to bring this up again but I still haven't seen any significantly shrinking sunsets that were non FE sources... Do you think ALL relevant sunset videos are being censored?

    I understand that.  I saw it with my own eyes over the Pacific but I don't live there anymore or I would try to film it for you.

    Here is one that shows the dramatic shrinking of the sun:

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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #78 on: January 06, 2022, 10:59:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 06, 2022, 08:25:11 PM
    So you don't trust Google/NASA, but you assert that their model of globe earth is accurate, even though it doesn't match previous renderings of the same.
    Neither Google nor NASA has a model of the globe earth. All they did was borrow the map of the world that was created in the 16th century by the Spanish Empire at the height of its Catholicism, having just kicked all the (((those people))) out of Spain in 1492. They sent explorers all over the world and mapped the continents and major islands, and Google and NASA simply borrow the map that they produced.
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #79 on: January 06, 2022, 11:24:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 06, 2022, 10:45:06 PM
    I understand that.  I saw it with my own eyes over the Pacific but I don't live there anymore or I would try to film it for you.

    Here is one that shows the dramatic shrinking of the sun:




    Here is another one that shows how tiny the sun gets.  By the end it's a mere fraction of the size it was at the beginning.

    It's smaller and smaller even before it reaches the water (horizon line).

    It's moving farther and farther away!

    Also notice how the reflection on the water reaches all the way to the where the viewer is.

    Even at the 24:44 mark the reflection reaches the viewer.

    Now try to replicate that with a candle and a roll of paper towels in a dark room.

    How high does the candle have to be for the light to reach the other side of the curve?


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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #80 on: January 07, 2022, 01:17:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 06, 2022, 11:24:45 PM
    Here is another one that shows how tiny the sun gets.  By the end it's a mere fraction of the size it was at the beginning.

    It's smaller and smaller even before it reaches the water (horizon line).
    These are some great sunsets, but please keep in mind that the movement and explanation of the Sun over FE must have the Sun disappear completely in the distance, there shouldn't be any intersection between the Suns disc and the horizon at all, just a fade to zero at the horizon. So when you show those nice sunsets where the Sun actually does appear smaller in size, that's actually cherry picking.

    The ones FE has difficulty explaining what's happening are all of these:
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #81 on: January 07, 2022, 03:55:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: Dankward on January 07, 2022, 01:17:16 AM
    there shouldn't be any intersection between the Suns disc and the horizon at all, just a fade to zero at the horizon.

    Why would there be no intersection?

    Any object that moves away into the distance until it can no longer be seen will intersect at the horizon vanishing point.

    It will disappear from the bottom up at vanishing point.

    The Dave Weiss kitchen counter top video demonstrated the intersection at the horizon vanishing point with the sun disappearing from the bottom up.

    The quarter across the table experiment shows the intersection at vanishing point as the bottom half slowly disappears more and more.

    The hallway photo I shared demonstrates the intersection at vanishing point.

    The vimeo video Lad posted earlier in this thread demonstrated again and again in real life and with diagrams the intersection at vanishing point at the horizon.

    Artists have to study and understand how the intersection at vanishing point works.

    Mountains will disappear from the bottom up the farther away you go.  The closer you get the taller they get and the more of the bottom half you can see.

    If you photograph a mountain at 50 miles away and then at 100 miles away and then at 150 miles away

    the mountain will appear to be shorter and shorter each time. 

    The bottom half will disappear more and more

    the top half will remain visible until you go so far away even that is no longer visible.

    Look at this drawing:








    Art teacher says to redraw this photo as if you have traveled 20 miles closer to the mountain. 

    What would you change about the mountain? 

    You would show more of the bottom half.











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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #82 on: January 07, 2022, 08:32:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 06, 2022, 08:03:35 PM
    That's fascinating. 
    Not sure if my question got ignored or just nobody noticed it. Asking again ...

    So is Ladislaus flat earther? Anybody else in this forum?
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #83 on: January 07, 2022, 09:21:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: andy on January 07, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
    Not sure if my question got ignored or just nobody noticed it. Asking again ...

    So is Ladislaus flat earther? Anybody else in this forum?
    Ladislaus, Matthew, Tradman, and Meg, off the top of my head, are all Flat earthers.

    I lean Flat earth, but definitively hold to the Hebrew conception of the earth/cosmos. I held FE more firmly for a time, but since I can't make a positive claim of the earth being flat, globe or "convex", all I know is modern cosmology is satanic bunk and Scripture is Truth.
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #84 on: January 07, 2022, 10:11:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on January 07, 2022, 09:21:43 PM
    Ladislaus, Matthew, Tradman, and Meg, off the top of my head, are all Flat earthers.

    I lean Flat earth, but definitively hold to the Hebrew conception of the earth/cosmos. I held FE more firmly for a time, but since I can't make a positive claim of the earth being flat, globe or "convex", all I know is modern cosmology is satanic bunk and Scripture is Truth.
    Thanks for the candid response. After completing extensive university studies, advanced math and learning in depth laws of physics (created by God), all I can do is here is to laugh out loud. But hey, it is not part of the Magisterium, so there is a hope :-).
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #85 on: January 08, 2022, 01:35:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 07, 2022, 03:55:15 AM

    You would show more of the bottom half.
    Nonsense. You would show more of the whole mountain, it would simply increase in size. It is impossible for half the sun to be below the horizon on the flat earth model. Yet this is what the photos show. The "vanishing point" is the horizon. Flat-earth is a nonsense psy-op to make anyone that questions the mainstream narrative look kooky. That is why it has it's own Netflix show promoting the theory! h0Ɩ0cαųst revisionism or 9/11 truth or climate change denial would never get a Netflix show promoting them now would they? It gets promoted because the flat earth theory is in their interests to be promoted! Then when we make rational replies to their lies (e.g. the covid scam), they lump us in with flat-earthers and make us out to be crazy!
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #86 on: January 08, 2022, 01:43:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: augustineeens on January 08, 2022, 01:35:31 AM
    Nonsense. You would show more of the whole mountain, it would simply increase in size. It is impossible for half the sun to be below the horizon on the flat earth model. Yet this is what the photos show. The "vanishing point" is the horizon. Flat-earth is a nonsense psy-op to make anyone that questions the mainstream narrative look kooky. That is why it has it's own Netflix show promoting the theory! h0Ɩ0cαųst revisionism or 9/11 truth or climate change denial would never get a Netflix show promoting them now would they? It gets promoted because the flat earth theory is in their interests to be promoted! Then when we make rational replies to their lies (e.g. the covid scam), they lump us in with flat-earthers and make us out to be crazy!


    I would direct you to the most popular flat earth channels on Youtube but you would have a very difficult time finding them, my friend.
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #87 on: January 08, 2022, 02:29:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: andy on January 07, 2022, 10:11:45 PM
    Thanks for the candid response. After completing extensive university studies, advanced math and learning in depth laws of physics (created by God), all I can do is here is to laugh out loud. 
    University studies??????

    You mean the same places that tell me that I came from a monkey and to never, ever, ever, ever, question climate change and to never, ever, ever, question the fact that gender is fluid?????

    Those people are sooooooooooo smart!!!!!!

    Why would anyone in their right mind question anything they say?

    Oh no!

    If I question

    THE SCIENCE

    they might laugh at me?



    Hahahahahahhahahahhahahah!  It's alllllll so funny!!!!!!!


    Do you laugh out loud at NASA?  


    Hahahhahaahahahhahhhahahahaah


    So much funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    :laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:




    who has more funny?



    :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

    This is how "science" works.
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #88 on: January 08, 2022, 08:18:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: andy on January 07, 2022, 10:11:45 PM
    Thanks for the candid response. After completing extensive university studies, advanced math and learning in depth laws of physics (created by God), all I can do is here is to laugh out loud. But hey, it is not part of the Magisterium, so there is a hope :-).

    Math, physics.  Yes, as Tesla pointed out, they've constructed a mathematical (fantasy) world based on false foundations.  They've applied their "laws of physics" ... until they got here



    Scientists admit that they've lost their way.  They can't come up with a unified theory to describe the behavior of the universe.  Gravity is a set of equations that allow you to predict various behaviors, but they still have zero explanation for what causes it.  They're absolutely clueless.

    That's your brilliant response, to "laugh out loud".

    I've also studied physics and advanced math at University, bud.  And so did this guy here (linked below).  He's a structural engineer who likes to read books on relativity during his leisure time.  He starts off by saying that at no point during his studies did they go out of their way to verify the "first principles" and merely took them for granted.  When you're off by as much of a factor as Kaku indicates, you're wrong on your first principles.  Mullin is correct.  In all my physics classes, they simply started off with a set of assumptions, never proved them, and then constructed mathematical equations on top of them, a mathematical house of cards that is quickly collapsing and imploding.

    Maybe you should have taken a history class or two during your "extensive university studies" and come to the realization that modern science for the past several hundred years has been driven and animated by an atheistic agenda.

    Here's your "physics".
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL6L7eG0SWTA9u_OiARRo3l0x_cGnzeDE

    You can find hours of footage proving without a doubt that NASA is one massive fraud.  What are they hiding?  Big Tech is ruthlessly censoring Flat Earth.  What are THEY hiding?
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    Re: Flat Earth-curious
    « Reply #89 on: January 08, 2022, 09:25:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: augustineeens on January 08, 2022, 01:35:31 AM
    Nonsense. You would show more of the whole mountain, it would simply increase in size. It is impossible for half the sun to be below the horizon on the flat earth model. Yet this is what the photos show. The "vanishing point" is the horizon. Flat-earth is a nonsense psy-op to make anyone that questions the mainstream narrative look kooky. That is why it has it's own Netflix show promoting the theory! h0Ɩ0cαųst revisionism or 9/11 truth or climate change denial would never get a Netflix show promoting them now would they? It gets promoted because the flat earth theory is in their interests to be promoted! Then when we make rational replies to their lies (e.g. the covid scam), they lump us in with flat-earthers and make us out to be crazy!


    I didn’t know that about Netflix, thanks. Just more proof to me that FE is most likely a disinformation campaign. The feigned suppression is a telltale sign.
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