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Offline Gunter

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Re: Feeney the nut job
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2024, 09:08:37 AM »
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  • Saint Elizabeth Ann Seton started her religious order taking some of  her younger children with her. 
    We are talking about 39 children and 12 couples.   There must have been something in the water to produce that many forced religious vocations.  I don't know did these saints write an instructional manual to set forth the perferred Catholic way to raise children? 

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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #61 on: October 17, 2024, 09:15:09 AM »
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  • Children being forced into unnatural living arrangements is not correct.   Our Lord blessed marriage and choose His Mother and earthly father.  That's the model, prove me wrong.  I mean if you didn't want children why did you make a vow?  Tell me who really cares about the children.   If that doesn't anger you it's hopeless. 


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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #62 on: October 17, 2024, 09:16:06 AM »
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  • Starting a religious order with married couples is strange.  If you believe otherwise then I guess I question your judgment.
    Vows of chastity are indeed strange to worldly minds. The religious order was not started with married couples, but SOME married couples who had already lost their livelihoods and reputations and been through more than comfortable Joe Trad can comprehend, made a heroic sacrifice and decision. Many others did not. There was no forcing. This has already been explained to you. But you dodged the question: What was the sin? There was none. 

    It is however, seriously sinful to post YouTube videos with half-truths and call names. Be a man, own it, and change the title of this thread to "Anonymous lawyer retells apostate's account of growing up in trad group." 
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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #63 on: October 17, 2024, 09:17:25 AM »
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  • Children being forced into unnatural living arrangements is not correct.  Our Lord blessed marriage and choose His Mother and earthly father.  That's the model, prove me wrong.  I mean if you didn't want children why did you make a vow?  Tell me who really cares about the children.  If that doesn't anger you it's hopeless.
    And yet, St. Joachim and Anna gave Our Lady to religious life at the age of 3. There are countless examples in lives of other saints through the ages of them being reared by religious. Your modern Protestant bias is showing.
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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #64 on: October 17, 2024, 09:18:20 AM »
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  • Forced on the children.  That's unjust no matter how you sugar coat it. 


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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #65 on: October 17, 2024, 09:23:54 AM »
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  • Fact: nobody cares about you like your parents.   How many of these 39 children are restoring the Church through preaching, or forgiving sins in the confessional?   Sounds like whoever thought that that was a good idea was not tradional or Catholic. 

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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #66 on: October 17, 2024, 09:25:04 AM »
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    Forced on the children.  That's unjust no matter how you sugar coat it. 
    I don't know how you were raised, but when I was a child, EVERYTHING was forced on me.

    I was forced to go to bed at a certain time.
    I was forced to eat what was on my plate.
    I was forced to help my siblings.
    I was forced to do my homework.

    :laugh1:  "Forced on the children"...it's a great emotional-sound-bite, but upon review, it makes no sense.  Children are forced to do about 99% of their tasks.  Because they're children.

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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #67 on: October 17, 2024, 09:29:23 AM »
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  • Fr Feeney was no different than if you or I went off the rails with regards to private judgment, except he aggregated authority to himself as to infallibility on the question. 
    He could have corrected abuse and been in obedience to the Church.


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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #68 on: October 17, 2024, 09:31:36 AM »
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    except he aggregated authority to himself as to infallibility on the question. 
    What book and page # did he do this?  Please be specific, since your accusation is specific.

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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #69 on: October 17, 2024, 09:31:51 AM »
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  • Fact: nobody cares about you like your parents.  How many of these 39 children are restoring the Church through preaching, or forgiving sins in the confessional?  Sounds like whoever thought that that was a good idea was not tradional or Catholic.
    I strongly suspect that this is not a sincere question because you still have not manned up. And you have not answered the question of the name of the sin that the parents who took religious vows while still providing for the exceptional education of their children committed. The fact that you don't know how many of these children became religious or had lovely families of their own means you should shut up. It would take a book or volumes to tell the story of their impact. Maybe that's the book that needs to be written instead of the story of the one damaged soul whose father sent him into the Center school, pulled him out, and then sent him back when he got a new woman. Facts don't matter to the detractors of Fr. Feeney, however, as has been demonstrated by this thread.
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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #70 on: October 17, 2024, 09:37:31 AM »
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  • I don't know how you were raised, but when I was a child, EVERYTHING was forced on me.

    I was forced to go to bed at a certain time.
    I was forced to eat what was on my plate.
    I was forced to help my siblings.
    I was forced to do my homework.

    :laugh1:  "Forced on the children"...it's a great emotional-sound-bite, but upon review, it makes no sense.  Children are forced to do about 99% of their tasks.  Because they're children.
    Take any position to the extreme and then you might see how wrong it is.  I mean death after birth when you have valid baptism might be the surest path to eternal bliss.


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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #71 on: October 17, 2024, 09:41:58 AM »
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  • Take any position to the extreme and then you might see how wrong it is.  I mean death after birth when you have valid baptism might be the surest path to eternal bliss.
    Yes, it actually is. Your problem is with eternal Rome and basic catechesis, not Fr. Feeney.

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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #72 on: October 17, 2024, 09:44:01 AM »
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  • I think your beef should be with the parents who made the decisions about THEIR family, not Fr Feeney.  None of these parents were forced to go along with him.  And they all stayed of their own free will.  There wasn't barbed wire and fences around the property. 

    Grow up and place your criticism (even if unjustified) where it belongs - with the parents.  Not Fr Feeney.

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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #73 on: October 17, 2024, 09:51:06 AM »
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  • I think your beef should be with the parents who made the decisions about THEIR family, not Fr Feeney.  None of these parents were forced to go along with him.  And they all stayed of their own free will.  There wasn't barbed wire and fences around the property. 

    Grow up and place your criticism (even if unjustified) where it belongs - with the parents.  Not Fr Feeney.
    And at the end of the day, it's all irrelevant to the doctrinal question, but emotional thinkers can't help conflating. It's truly pathetic, though, when such attacks come from other trads, especially those such as the Catholic Family Podcast, whom, it is my understanding, are CMRI affiliated. Of all people, they do not get to cast aspersions of abuse on other trads with the criminal skeletons sitting in their own closet. It is the duty of any Catholic to ascertain the facts before running their mouths. And that clearly was not done. 
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    Re: Feeney the nut job
    « Reply #74 on: October 17, 2024, 09:54:27 AM »
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  • When a priest allows such behavior he has put his stamp of approval on it.  The people involved were probably misguided naive people who were reacting to the crisis in the Church.  I know many people that bought farmland in rural areas because Russia was going to invade. They were hedging in case of world War III and the Fatima messages.