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Feds confiscate mans ranch in Nevada
« on: April 09, 2014, 03:24:31 PM »
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  • 200 ARMED FEDS INVADE NEVADA RANCH AND CONFISCATE CATTLE!
     
    This family has owned and operated the ranch for centuries!

    The FEDS are there to remove the cattle, take the ranch, and protect the "desert turtle"

     

    UPDATE as of today:  http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/04/09/update-200-armed-feds-invade-nevada-ranch-and-confiscating-cattle/

     
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    Note that the Feds are there in power, with many helicopters and armored vehicles and hundreds of agents, and are closing the roads so that no one can come to the aid of this rancher who is standing on the Constitution and his historic rights to grazing land.  The Feds remember the infamous Ruby Ridge incident where FBI agents shot and killed a family's young son and also shot and killed the mother who was holding their baby, and also shot several others all without provocation, all on a trumped up illegal private gun sale.  


    The Feds also remember the Waco Massacre in 1993, where without any need, or wisdom, or lawful justification, the ATF launched an armed attack and then surrounded a religious group in a facility outside Waco, Texas.  This group was called the Branch Davidians, an offshoot of the Seventh Day Adventists, who had a very good relationship with the local sheriff.  The ATF assault, supposedly looking for illegal weapons, was then joined by the FBI, and this siege resulted in a stand off that lasted for 51 days.  (Go to Google and read about it.)  Members of the group who were away at work and who had wives or children in the buildings, were shot by FBI snipers as they attempted to reach their children.    The FBI even brought in tanks to crush vehicles and demolish the buildings.  Finally the entire facility was burned down with the cost of life of nearly a hundred of this religious group, including 17 little children.  With the building a raging inferno, even when many of this group tried to run out of the burning building they were shot down with full automatic weapons.
    Bill Clinton was  then president, Janet Reno was then attorney general and in charge of the operation, and her "top guy" was Eric Holder, the present AG.

    Millions of  good, law abiding Americans will never forget this tragedy, nor forgive the arrogance, brutality and murder that is sometimes carried out by government psychopaths hiding behind a  badge that says ATF, FBI, BLM, or some other agency.   Remember, one reason that tyranny succeeds is because people have such short memories.
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    Feds confiscate mans ranch in Nevada
    « Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 03:28:14 PM »
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  • Even their excuse rings hollow -- more "desert turtles" and desert turtle equivalents are made extinct by destroying hundreds of thousands of square miles of land for monocrop agriculture (agribusiness) and the government couldn't care less. In fact, they push monoculture and modern farming methods via the various USDA subsidy programs!

    I'm not a hippie, but the level of destruction the human race has wrought on the natural world in the past 50 years is mind-boggling. The "Green Revolution" is a farce. Natural methods (e.g., Permaculture) work so much better and have no side effects or damage to the earth.

    The destruction weighs the heaviest on the poor peoples of the earth -- and I'm not talking about single moms in the USA trying to survive on Food Stamps and a minimum wage job -- they might make $10,000 a year and not have every convenience Americans enjoy, but they're not REALLY poor. I'm talking about the fact that America has the richest poor in the world. Poverty is relative.

    I'm talking about the REAL poor -- those starving in Third World countries. Indian farmers committing ѕυιcιdє because they can't stay afloat after going into debt for fertilizer, seeds, herbicides, and tractors. All their profit goes to pay interest on the debt! One bad crop, and they're ruined.

    Does anyone here have any idea how much topsoil is lost through conventional modern agriculture methods? How many deserts are created every year?

    When a teeming forest is a desert 20 years later, how many species do you suppose are lost?

    So they are hypocrites.

    They just want to flex their tyrannical muscles, and get us used to this kind of BS.

    I seem to recall reading somewhere that environmentalism would be used as a means of tyrannizing the people.
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    Feds confiscate mans ranch in Nevada
    « Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 06:39:07 PM »
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  • Green is the new Red.

    When I was growing up we were warned that the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere was leading us to another ice age.  The solution?  Massive taxes on carbon fuels and federal control of anything that could affect the environment.

    Today we are warned that the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is leading us to global warming and the oceans rising and destroying thousands of miles of coastline.  The solution?  Massive taxes on carbon fuels and federal control of anything that could affect the environment.

    But, of course, they've now decided that they don't need to do anything.  They can just take it.  And this is the way it is.  I don't know why anyone would bother being a farmer or rancher anymore.  

    (It would not surprise me if Monsanto or some other multi-national corporation has that very land for a corporate ranch or farm five years from now.  By then, no one will remember except the family that was dispossessed, and no one will listen to them!)

    P.S.  A lot of good it has done to elect Republicans to Congress.  The feds were doing this stuff even when the House, Senate, and Presidency were all in Republican hands.  

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    « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 09:38:46 PM »
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  • I would love to run into one of those endangered turtles.

    I would take a can of spray paint and do a partridge family theme on it. Either that or paint a bulls eye on it.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 11:44:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: crossbro

    I would love to run into one of those endangered turtles.

    I would take a can of spray paint and do a partridge family theme on it. Either that or paint a bulls eye on it.

    Be careful, the Feds will be looking for you.
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    « Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 12:16:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    Quote from: crossbro

    I would love to run into one of those endangered turtles.

    I would take a can of spray paint and do a partridge family theme on it. Either that or paint a bulls eye on it.

    Be careful, the Feds will be looking for you.
     :furtive: :furtive: :furtive:


    What I think would be funny would be painitng a checkered flag or painting Dale E's #3 Goodwrench or a speed limit sign.

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    Feds confiscate mans ranch in Nevada
    « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 12:18:59 AM »
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  • I am not familiar with this particular story but here is some additional background from Ann Barnhardt.  I typically don’t agree with her analysis but in my observation she does her home work well and her facts, as distinguished from her conclusions (in my personal opinion), generally check out.  She certainly is well informed on ranch and cattle issues.  According to her site the issue seems to not be so much about “saving some turtle” but rather because the rancher in question hasn’t been paying his rent (i.e. grazing fees):

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    Regarding the cattleman in Nevada: I would strongly discourage you all from hitching your cart to this particular horse. While I have all manner of criticisms of the BLM and certainly of thuggish FEDGOV tactics, it is essential that one pick one’s battles very carefully, and this is NOT a good battle to pick. The guy in question has been grazing his cattle at essentially zero feed cost for upwards of twenty years (well, THAT makes the cattle business easier, doesn’t it!) because he stopped paying the BLM any lease charges. Again, we can debate all manner of things including the ridiculous rules about closing land to grazing in order to “protect” lizards or prairie chickens or whatever the fake “endangered species” du jour is, and certainly we can debate the existence of the BLM itself, but there is no free lunch; everyone else pays to graze. This guy is claiming, as I understand it, some grandfathered right to the land through the Mormon cult (again, BIG red flag), but I don’t buy it. This situation stinks all around to my refined sniffer, and I would NOT die on this hill. Since so many have asked, that is my read. Just be careful with this one.


    http://www.barnhardt.biz

    With that said, working in agricuture myself, I defiently agree with Matthew about the perils of "agri-biz", monoculture, non sustainable cultivation practices excessively reliant on non-natural and non-renewable inputs.

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    Feds confiscate mans ranch in Nevada
    « Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 06:21:49 PM »
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  • True Cause of Nevada Bundy Ranch Conflict: Federal Government, a Chinese Solar Energy Company, and Harry Reid selling out America to China!
    Posted on 2014/04/12 by Jim Harwood

    Harry Reid’s involvement in the Bundy Ranch attack is confirmed by the fact that his former senior adviser also served as the director of the BLM. Reid redrew the land boundaries of the endangered tortoise’s protected habitat to benefit a big money donor.

    A BLM report entitled “Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone” reveals that the Bundy Ranch land in question is within the “Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area” which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for “Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” on land “managed” by BLM.

    As a fan and writer of science fiction, as well as interested in science, I’m a strong supporter of solar energy development . . . but only for it here to benefit Americans, businesses and jobs. Harry Reid is selling out America – giving land, business and jobs, to China. It should be done in a way that creates new businesses and jobs for Americans, and does not interfere with other energy sources, and other kinds of businesses – including the cattle and farming industry.

    “In 2012, the BLM and the U.S. Department of Energy published the Final Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States,” the report reads. “The Final Solar Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement assessed the impact of utility-scale solar energy development on public lands in the six southwestern states…

        Arizona
        California
        Colorado
        Nevada
        New Mexico
        Utah

    Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

    “Harry and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” he wrote. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.”

    “His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.”

    Although those reports are in plain view, the mainstream news media has so far ignored them. This is just one of many important news stories not being covered by CNN – and others – while being distracted  and focused on other less important news stories. Missing Malaysian flight MH370 Boeing 777, crew and passengers, is an important news story, but not enough to justify the amount of coverage it has been getting, causing CNN – and others – to neglect other more important news stories. Distraction is the goal. While the news media puppets of the federal government have got you focused elsewhere, the federal government – while not being more closely observed by the news media – is more able to get away with doing things that are not in the best interest of Americans, American businesses, and American jobs.

    “A tortoise isn’t the reason why BLM is harassing a 67 year-old rancher; they want his land,” journalist Dana Loesch wrote. “The tortoise wasn’t of concern when [U.S. Senator] Harry Reid worked with BLM to literally change the boundaries of the tortoise’s habitat to accommodate the development of his top donor, Harvey Whittemore.”

    “Reid is accused of using the new BLM chief as a puppet to control Nevada land (already over 84% of which is owned by the federal government) and pay back special interests,” she added. “BLM has proven that they’ve a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they’ve had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development. Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing area.”
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    Feds confiscate mans ranch in Nevada
    « Reply #8 on: April 15, 2014, 06:23:23 PM »
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  • More interesting background on the Nevada land-grab
    http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/reid-smelling-anything-but-rosy-in-ranch-fight/

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    « Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 12:29:42 AM »
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  • American flags flap in the wind on the two-lane state highway to Cliven Bundy's ranch. Along the roadside, self-described militia members in camouflage who came to defend him from the federal government lounge and smoke, loaded pistols on their hips.

    Ten miles from these desert encampments, the telephone is ringing more than usual at the police department in Mesquite, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

    Travelers from around the country are calling, wondering if it's safe to pass on Interstate 15, where Bundy and his supporters, some armed with military-style weapons, faced down federal officials in an April 12 standoff over his cattle grazing on federal land.

    Police Chief Troy Tanner tells callers it's safe. But local authorities and Bundy's neighbors are growing weary of the attention and the unresolved dispute. Since the standoff, Bundy went from being proclaimed a patriot by some for his resistance to a racist for comments he made about blacks being better off under slavery.

    "Most of our neighbors have about the same opinions we have. They don't like it," said John Booth, a resident of nearby Bunkerville who drove this week with his wife, Peggie, past the State Route 170 encampments. "But they're not really going to say anything about it."

    As triple-digit temperatures of a Mojave Desert summer approach, militia members vow to stay and protect Bundy and his family from government police, though it's unclear what the immediate threat is.

    The U.S. Bureau of Land Management has halted plans — at least for now — to round up Bundy's cattle under a court order to remove them from public land and habitat of the desert tortoise. The BLM says Bundy owes $1.1 million in unpaid grazing fees and penalties.

    "We haven't been told by the Bundys that they're ready for us to go," said Jerry DeLemus, a former U.S. Marine from New Hampshire.

    DeLemus heads a self-styled militia protection force of perhaps 30 people who sleep in tents, clean their military-style AR-15 and AK-47 weapons, and form work crews to help build watering bins for cattle on and around the Bundy ranch.

    Bundy, who turned 68 on Tuesday, rode his call for a "range war" to conservative media stardom. He's been portrayed as a states' rights advocate battling an overreaching government, and a white-hat, last-of-the-cowboys figure.

    Just as quickly, he lost many Republican defenders when he made the comments about blacks last week. Democrats labeled Bundy a racist.

    Democratic U.S. Rep. Steven Horsford, who lives in Las Vegas and represents a vast area including Bunkerville and Mesquite, met with residents last week and called Monday for federal authorities and the local sheriff to investigate the gun-toting force.

    Openly carrying a pistol or rifle is legal in Nevada. Permit holders can carry concealed weapons.

    Horsford, however, cited concerns about "an armed presence in or around community areas including local churches, school, and other community locations."

    Bunkerville, with about 1,200 residents, has a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints temple, a Catholic church, a community center, an elementary school, a park and a firehouse on the banks of the Virgin River. There's no general store or restaurant.

    Bundy acknowledged creating a stir when he and his family showed up at the Mormon church with armed bodyguards for Easter Sunday services.

    "The militia have been going with me everywhere," Bundy said Tuesday. "When I got to church, I said, 'Leave your weapons in the car.' They did. I guess there could have been weapons in the parking lot, but there were no weapons in the church house."

    Bundy denies that militia members set up checkpoints on public property. He said armed guards do stop and screen visitors at the gate to his ranch.

    A group of militia members who stopped a neighboring rancher trucking cattle last Saturday to Arizona, about 12 miles to the east, were helping his son, Ryan Bundy, the family patriarch said. They wanted to ensure that Bundy cattle weren't being rustled.

    A guard also is stationed on a dirt road leading to a gravel quarry on private land where DeLemus and his group have been camping for almost three weeks.

    At a campsite with a sign dubbing it "Bunker Hill," Jason Scott Patrick, 42, from Bonaire, Georgia, described wielding a weapon during the standoff in a dry wash beneath the I-15 overpass.

    Lisa Marie Johnson, 49, a Republican party activist and Rand Paul supporter from Pahrump, Nevada, said she believed their presence provided a deterrent to what she described an overreaching federal government.

    Across the highway river bridge, Tom Mayhew, 72, also from Pahrump, has been living in a cluttered 32-foot motor home with a generator, a big computer screen and a gun in his belt.

    "I'm too old to do battle, but I'm a body," he said as he punched up a website showing an aerial view of the encampment area.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nevada-ranchers-neighbors-weary-attention-173545137.html