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Offline Stanley N

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Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
« Reply #150 on: October 30, 2018, 10:26:14 PM »
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    You can't be serious.
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    You see, the problem is, flat-earthdom syndromers need to come up with ONE MAP that answers all the questions.
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    I think I've made my own position quite clear.
    However, are you saying that it's impossible to take the standard system, transform geometry so the earth surface is flat, with light bending along the new geometry, and have that work? 


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #151 on: November 02, 2018, 11:10:53 AM »
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  • I think I've made my own position quite clear.
    However, are you saying that it's impossible to take the standard system, transform geometry so the earth surface is flat, with light bending along the new geometry, and have that work?
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    What I'm saying is, if you propose the "transverse equatorial aspect of the azimuthal equidistant projection" as your answer to why the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer measure the same in circuмference, then you have to use the "transverse equatorial aspect of the azimuthal equidistant projection" to answer EVERY OTHER QUESTION about the earth's shape, as well. It is dishonest, fake and stupid to jump from one model to another depending on the question asked. And it is dishonest, fake and stupid to claim that you "don't have a model and don't need one" when it becomes impossible to use the same model to answer all the questions. 
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    One model, in answer to every question: that's the impossible obstacle flat-earthers have to face, and they HATE it.
    Therefore, flat-earthers hate the real world; it conflicts with their subjective fantasy world (which changes form to suit their whims).
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    Offline Stanley N

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #152 on: December 02, 2018, 11:54:13 PM »
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  • What I'm saying is, if you propose the "transverse equatorial aspect of the azimuthal equidistant projection" as your answer to why the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer measure the same in circuмference, then you have to use the "transverse equatorial aspect of the azimuthal equidistant projection" to answer EVERY OTHER QUESTION about the earth's shape, as well.
    FEers could just take the standard model and transform it to some particular FE map. Any particular map would work. But the transform would need to apply to all aspects geometry and physics - the FE explanations I have seen only go part way. 

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #153 on: December 03, 2018, 10:06:50 AM »
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  • FEers could just take the standard model and transform it to some particular FE map. Any particular map would work. But the transform would need to apply to all aspects geometry and physics - the FE explanations I have seen only go part way.
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    Flat-earthdom syndromers don't have any "standard model." In fact, they complain that they don't need any model.
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    Their method is always incomplete because the truth is one, and flat-earthdom syndrome is full of holes.
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #154 on: December 04, 2018, 01:44:08 PM »
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    Flat-earthdom syndromers don't have any "standard model." In fact, they complain that they don't need any model.
    Flat earthers could take the standard model of modern physics and transform it to any particular FE map they want.


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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #155 on: December 08, 2018, 04:42:06 AM »
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    Flat earthers could take the standard model of modern physics and transform it to any particular FE map they want.
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    But then they'd have to AGREE on something, and that's not happening. 
    They enjoy the confusion of disagreement WAY too much.
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