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Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2017, 12:43:15 AM »
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    Your video has a glaring defece, it doesn't answer my question.
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    How does a viewer in Australia see a full moon in the following model?
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    Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?

    The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #91 on: September 11, 2017, 12:46:24 AM »
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    Your video has a glaring defect, it doesn't answer my question.
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    How does a viewer in Australia see a full moon in the following model?
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    Can't answer a simple question, eh?  :fryingpan:
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #92 on: September 11, 2017, 12:49:29 AM »
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    Can't answer a simple question, eh?  :fryingpan:
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    Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?

    The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #93 on: September 11, 2017, 10:45:10 PM »
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    So you can answer how someone in Australia in this model can see the full moon overhead, then?
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #94 on: September 11, 2017, 11:05:02 PM »
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  • The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

    The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

    The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."


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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #95 on: September 13, 2017, 10:30:02 AM »
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    "Flat-earth" is not a dogma of the Church.
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #96 on: September 13, 2017, 10:40:05 AM »
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    "Flat-earth" is not a dogma of the Church.
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    True. Is the globe-earth a dogma of the Church? 

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #97 on: September 13, 2017, 11:55:07 AM »
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  • True. Is the globe-earth a dogma of the Church?
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    The shape of the earth is not a matter for dogmatic definition. To say whether the earth is flat or spherical is not a proposition regarding faith or morals.
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    But flat-earthers act like it's really a matter of life or death.
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    All they have to do is look at the moon and think with their mind. 
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    Animals can look at the moon and don't conclude anything, and flat-earthers are acting like animals in this regard.
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #98 on: September 13, 2017, 12:06:09 PM »
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  • True. Is the globe-earth a dogma of the Church?
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    The shape of the earth is not a matter for dogmatic definition. To say whether the earth is flat or spherical is not a proposition regarding faith or morals.
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    But flat-earthers act like it's really a matter of life or death.
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    All they have to do is look at the moon and think with their mind. 
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    Animals can look at the moon and don't conclude anything, and flat-earthers are acting like animals in this regard.
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    For example, take the post at the top of this page, where Truth is Transitory replies to my post, which asks a question, and his reply does not answer the question but instead Truth is Transitory repeats his off-topic insinuation that flat-earthism is somehow a matter of faith or morals:
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    Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?

    The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).
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    To increase the impression that he's unqualified to ask such questions, he uses an inappropriate plural possessive apostrophe, and proceeds to pass judgment on the intentions of other members, which causes him to appear very non-Catholic. In fact, he looks more and more like a Mohammedan troll trying to undermine a Catholic forum.
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    Mohammedans believe a "flat-earth" is necessary aspect of their false religion, AND they commonly misplace apostrophes like that.
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #99 on: September 13, 2017, 12:22:12 PM »
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    The shape of the earth is not a matter for dogmatic definition. To say whether the earth is flat or spherical is not a proposition regarding faith or morals.
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    But flat-earthers act like it's really a matter of life or death.
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    All they have to do is look at the moon and think with their mind.
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    Animals can look at the moon and don't conclude anything, and flat-earthers are acting like animals in this regard.
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    For example, take the post at the top of this page, where Truth is Transitory replies to my post, which asks a question, and his reply does not answer the question but instead Truth is Transitory repeats his off-topic insinuation that flat-earthism is somehow a matter of faith or morals:
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    To increase the impression that he's unqualified to ask such questions, he uses an inappropriate plural possessive apostrophe, and proceeds to pass judgment on the intentions of other members, which causes him to appear very non-Catholic. In fact, he looks more and more like a Mohammedan troll trying to undermine a Catholic forum.
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    Mohammedans believe a "flat-earth" is necessary aspect of their false religion, AND they commonly misplace apostrophes like that.
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    :incense:  ;D
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #100 on: September 13, 2017, 12:29:10 PM »
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  • The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.
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    No, the horizon does not appear perfectly flat around the observer regardless of altitude.
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    If you don't know what you're looking at, you might be subject to the optical illusion that it's flat all around you, true, but if you know what you're looking at and know what a truly flat horizon looks like, you would see the difference. If you were to stand on the moon's surface, for example, you would see that it does not provide a view to the distance at the horizon as much as the earth does, and if you were to go to a high elevation on the moon, you would see a little further, but you would still not be able to see as far as you can on the earth. Likewise, if you were to stand on the surface of Saturn, for example, you would see even further than you do on the earth, and then you would easily say, "The curvature of the earth is much easier to comprehend now after seeing this."
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    Amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage are all recorded on a moving platform that cannot reliably support a level scope and are therefore unable to accurately measure the projection of a level line at 180 degree opposite directions.  It is impossible to determine from such devices whether the horizon appears "flat" as you say.
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    The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.
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    No, the horizon does not "rise" to the eye level of the observer. You are deceived by your uninformed eye if you think that.
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    You need a solid surface like the ground, on which to mount a level scope to measure the level line of the horizon. Without such an instrument you cannot know where the level line projects into the distance. I have done this precise thing atop Mt. Whitney (14,500' el.) and have seen with my own eyes the obvious difference in elevation compared to objects in the distance, in ALL DIRECTIONS. Even nearby mountain peaks are measurably lower in elevation than the top of Mt. Whitney. It is a very informative exercise.
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    IOW as I ascended, the horizon stayed fixed and I had to tilt looking down further and further to see it.
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    The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
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    No, the natural physics of water is to conform to the contours of its container.
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    The earth as a giant sphere tilted is not "wobbling" as you say, it is not "hurdling through infinite space" as you say. Earth is not "in fact an extended flat plane" as can be observed in many ways. The fundamental physical property of fluids to conform to their container's contours does not change with a spherical earth. Understanding these physical properties comes with experience and common sense. Flat-earthism does not.
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #101 on: September 13, 2017, 12:43:24 PM »
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  •  :incense:  ;D
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #102 on: September 13, 2017, 01:29:54 PM »
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  • :incense:  ;D
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    Wassa matta, Truth is Transitory, cat got your tongue?
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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #103 on: September 13, 2017, 01:46:56 PM »
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    Wassa matta, Truth is Transitory, cat got your tongue?
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    No. :P
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Father Pfeiffer slaming Flat Earth, our response
    « Reply #104 on: September 13, 2017, 07:13:48 PM »
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  • No. :P
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    Oh, I see. You're just acting as an animal -- like always.
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    Like a dog or a horse, looks at the moon and sees nothing worth thinking about.
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    Then its tongue hangs out of its mouth, drool.
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    That's what brute animals do: ignore the images they see, while stuck in a material rut of ignorance, like a flat-earther.
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