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Offline copticruiser

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« on: November 27, 2013, 01:31:55 AM »
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  • you guys have Michael Schmidt the Amish diary farmer who had to pay and live through court battles over the raw milk issue in Pennsilvania.

    We now have another example of bullying here in Canada. I signed the petition I hope you will too.

    Nothing seems safe anymore. Enjoy the read


    http://shropshiresheep.org/farmedanddangerous/

    IF YOU DONT INTEND TO READ IT HERE IS THE JUST OF IT.

     Govt invaded a farm and killed all the sheep. Claiming a possible Scapie contamination of course they were wrong! Oops no sorry no compensation just literally years of genetics and work down the tube. Not to mention a lot of dead healthy animals.

    Looks like Russia continues to spread her errors.

    Apologize if this is the wrong place to post I wasn't sure where.

    Thanks your friendly canadian :farmer:

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    « Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 02:48:19 AM »
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  • Thanks for letting folks know about this.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

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    « Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 03:09:03 AM »
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  • Obama passed law that they can seize your farm either in war or peacetime.  
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    « Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 11:59:39 PM »
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  • hey is there  link to that new Obama law that would be a good one to let folks up here read about. Thanks.


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    « Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 12:10:41 AM »
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  • It would be best to read up on the Holodomor, it's what the filth that run things plan to do to everyone.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 12:27:34 AM »
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  • This is also part of the sadism of Judaeo-Masonry, they want not only to murder those who dare oppose them, but also to make them suffer as much as possible. They are like the mafioso that I read about in a Daily Mail article that caused his enemy to be beaten with iron rods & then fed still alive to pigs. That is what they would like to do to all those who resist them, but especially to Catholics. These pieces of stinking rot are utterly unbounded in their malice.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 03:02:26 AM »
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  • Quote from: copticruiser
    you guys have Michael Schmidt the Amish diary farmer who had to pay and live through court battles over the raw milk issue in Pennsilvania.

    We now have another example of bullying here in Canada. I signed the petition I hope you will too.

    Nothing seems safe anymore. Enjoy the read


    http://shropshiresheep.org/farmedanddangerous/

    IF YOU DONT INTEND TO READ IT HERE IS THE [GIST] OF IT.

     Govt invaded a farm and killed all the sheep. Claiming a possible Scapie contamination of course they were wrong! Oops no sorry no compensation just literally years of genetics and work down the tube. Not to mention a lot of dead healthy animals.

    Looks like Russia continues to spread her errors.

    Apologize if this is the wrong place to post I wasn't sure where.

    Thanks your friendly canadian :farmer:



    It's not just Pennsylvania, it's all over America.  

    There are numerous stories of government heavy-handed tyranny toward farms that milk cows and sell the raw milk.  

    Alta-Dena in California was once the largest chain that sold raw milk.  Through the 1950's, 60's, 70's and into the 80's (maybe longer) my family bought raw milk at their dairy shops in Riverside and Los Angeles counties.  Then because of court lawsuits and government regulations, eventually they threw in the towel.

    Following them, many other small farms gave up the fight.  As of last year, there were only two small farms in all of California that sold raw milk, and they were literally HAUNTED by state regulatory agents like they were criminals.  

    A major organic food chain, Whole Foods Markets, stopped selling raw milk a few years ago, and the only places left are small dairy shops and a couple of chains, one of which is Sprouts.  As I recall their brand is Organic Pastures.  One quart of milk costs $8.  

    One of the most unreasonable rules is they made RAW COTTAGE CHEESE as if it were contraband.  You could go to jail for selling it, and they sent out agents under disguise to work their way in confidence into small stores to see if they could convince the shopkeepers that they wanted raw Cottage Cheese for the health of their families.  They lied through their teeth, and they were trained how to do it, acting the part and busting the shops.  You would think they were pushing drugs or something -- like crack or heroin.  

    Raw Cottage Cheese is the stuff you remember as a child if you're 50 or more years old.  It's FULL OF FLAVOR, not runny but firm and wonderful smelling.  You can pile it up like it's ice cream.  One spoonful and you think you're in heaven.

    Oh, but the rich and famous and Congressmen can get all the raw cottage cheese they want, no problem.  Get the point?  

    Then there was one party you can read about on the Internet, when a raw milk and organic crops farm invited friends from all the western states to come and have a festival.  They hired a top rated chef to prepare their foods.  He followed all the rules according to the books, as he was a professional food service man who knew what he could do and what was forbidden.  They had large deli trays and on-site mobile kitchen on the farm that day, preparing food.  Hundreds of customers showed up and they were starting to have appetizers and homemade organic wine, when the woman from the Food Inspection Department (or whatever it's called) showed up and started going down her checklist of what makes them criminals for this food event.  

    Long story short, they ended up throwing away most of their food in 55-gallon drums that were intended for trash cans but were now filled with prepared food.

    Somehow the farmers managed to not disappoint their guests too much, but the day was all-in-all a wasted event.  

    If they had tried this stunt in Kentucky or Tennessee, they would have had a missing inspector.  

    One would think that Texas would be a stronghold:  "Don't mess with Texas!"  But in the whole state there is not one raw milk farm anymore, as of about 10 years ago.

    Raw milk does not putrefy or spoil, but when it sets out at room temperature, it starts to turn into cheese.  It's the pasteurization and homogenization of milk that makes for that rotten smell when it expires.  It is like a battlefield with all the dead bodies of good bacteria (as well as a few bad ones that the good ones actually fight off) lying all around, and that's what goes 'BAD' when the milk spoils.


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    « Reply #7 on: November 29, 2013, 05:05:45 AM »
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    you guys have Michael Schmidt the Amish diary farmer who had to pay and live through court battles over the raw milk issue in Pennsilvania.

    We now have another example of bullying here in Canada. I signed the petition I hope you will too.

    Nothing seems safe anymore. Enjoy the read


    http://shropshiresheep.org/farmedanddangerous/

    IF YOU DONT INTEND TO READ IT HERE IS THE [GIST] OF IT.

     Govt invaded a farm and killed all the sheep. Claiming a possible Scapie contamination of course they were wrong! Oops no sorry no compensation just literally years of genetics and work down the tube. Not to mention a lot of dead healthy animals.

    Looks like Russia continues to spread her errors.

    Apologize if this is the wrong place to post I wasn't sure where.

    Thanks your friendly canadian :farmer:



    It's not just Pennsylvania, it's all over America.  

    There are numerous stories of government heavy-handed tyranny toward farms that milk cows and sell the raw milk.  

    Alta-Dena in California was once the largest chain that sold raw milk.  Through the 1950's, 60's, 70's and into the 80's (maybe longer) my family bought raw milk at their dairy shops in Riverside and Los Angeles counties.  Then because of court lawsuits and government regulations, eventually they threw in the towel.

    Following them, many other small farms gave up the fight.  As of last year, there were only two small farms in all of California that sold raw milk, and they were literally HAUNTED by state regulatory agents like they were criminals.  

    A major organic food chain, Whole Foods Markets, stopped selling raw milk a few years ago, and the only places left are small dairy shops and a couple of chains, one of which is Sprouts.  As I recall their brand is Organic Pastures.  One quart of milk costs $8.  

    One of the most unreasonable rules is they made RAW COTTAGE CHEESE as if it were contraband.  You could go to jail for selling it, and they sent out agents under disguise to work their way in confidence into small stores to see if they could convince the shopkeepers that they wanted raw Cottage Cheese for the health of their families.  They lied through their teeth, and they were trained how to do it, acting the part and busting the shops.  You would think they were pushing drugs or something -- like crack or heroin.  

    Raw Cottage Cheese is the stuff you remember as a child if you're 50 or more years old.  It's FULL OF FLAVOR, not runny but firm and wonderful smelling.  You can pile it up like it's ice cream.  One spoonful and you think you're in heaven.

    Oh, but the rich and famous and Congressmen can get all the raw cottage cheese they want, no problem.  Get the point?  

    Then there was one party you can read about on the Internet, when a raw milk and organic crops farm invited friends from all the western states to come and have a festival.  They hired a top rated chef to prepare their foods.  He followed all the rules according to the books, as he was a professional food service man who knew what he could do and what was forbidden.  They had large deli trays and on-site mobile kitchen on the farm that day, preparing food.  Hundreds of customers showed up and they were starting to have appetizers and homemade organic wine, when the woman from the Food Inspection Department (or whatever it's called) showed up and started going down her checklist of what makes them criminals for this food event.  

    Long story short, they ended up throwing away most of their food in 55-gallon drums that were intended for trash cans but were now filled with prepared food.

    Somehow the farmers managed to not disappoint their guests too much, but the day was all-in-all a wasted event.  

    If they had tried this stunt in Kentucky or Tennessee, they would have had a missing inspector.  

    One would think that Texas would be a stronghold:  "Don't mess with Texas!"  But in the whole state there is not one raw milk farm anymore, as of about 10 years ago.

    Raw milk does not putrefy or spoil, but when it sets out at room temperature, it starts to turn into cheese.  It's the pasteurization and homogenization of milk that makes for that rotten smell when it expires.  It is like a battlefield with all the dead bodies of good bacteria (as well as a few bad ones that the good ones actually fight off) lying all around, and that's what goes 'BAD' when the milk spoils.


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    I think you should watch out for raw milk. I had an aunt who had a number of miscarraiges many years ago. I was told that they were caused by to raw milk.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 03:18:31 PM »
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  • Ahhh been drinking raw milk through 4 pregnancies and have consumed and bought 5 jugs of store milk in 10 years.

    Been fortunate enough to locate fresh raw milk and now I use a lot of my own goats milk so my family knows nothing else.

    Interesting to note a couple of different neighbors bought fresh raw milk and the kids did not like it?

    Prefered the watered down version at the store?


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    « Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 03:27:15 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1:
    An Amish acquaintance of mine consumes raw milk daily, and has done so for decades.  She has 16 children, all but one born at home.  I wouldn't put much stock in word of the doctor who claimed raw milk causes miscarriages.  He probably had no explanation and had to make it seem the woman's fault.  
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    « Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 03:32:38 PM »
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  • I never understood the whole raw milk thing.  Pasteurization doesn't add or remove anything from the milk; the process is simply heating the product up to 161 F for a few seconds, and then cooling it down quickly.  It kills any potentially harmful pathogens, and doesn't spoil the product.

    What's the big deal?


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    « Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 03:44:32 PM »
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    hey is there  link to that new Obama law that would be a good one to let folks up here read about. Thanks.

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    Here is a link from a random search:

    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/executive-doomsday-order-obama-authorizes-gov-to-seize-farms-food-processing-plants-energy-resources-transportation-skilled-laborers-during-national-emergency_03182012

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    « Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 03:50:09 PM »
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    I never understood the whole raw milk thing.  Pasteurization doesn't add or remove anything from the milk; the process is simply heating the product up to 161 F for a few seconds, and then cooling it down quickly.  It kills any potentially harmful pathogens, and doesn't spoil the product.

    What's the big deal?


    Here are a couple of links that help explain the issues associated with pasteurization and homogenization:

    http://metabolichealing.com/education/articles/the-putrid-truth-about-pasteurized-and-homogenized-dairy/

    http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no-milk.htm

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    « Reply #13 on: December 30, 2013, 04:34:31 PM »
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    I never understood the whole raw milk thing.  Pasteurization doesn't add or remove anything from the milk;



    Not true.  Literally, pasteurization ADDS HEAT and REMOVES HEAT from the milk, and in the process, REMOVES beneficial living bacteria by killing it in its home, and by destroying other beneficial nutrients and vitamins in the milk.  So it does remove things.  It removes lots of very GOOD things from the milk!


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    the process is simply heating the product up to 161 F for a few seconds, and then cooling it down quickly.  It kills any potentially harmful pathogens, and doesn't spoil the product.



    Any pathogens that are destroyed are in the VAST MINORITY, if they exist at all, and what IS destroyed is overwhelmingly GOOD things, and YES, it DOES spoil the milk --- in potency, because pasteurized milk putrefies, but raw milk does NOT putrefy.  You have been watching the MSM version of the 'truth' which is all lies, basically.


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    What's the big deal?


    On the surface, it might not seem like a 'big deal'.  On the surface, that is.

    Louis Pasteur had good intentions developing a simple method to increase the safety and shelf-life of milk and milk by-products.  

    And homogenization was developed to make it more convenient to use milk because if the cream and skim milk is always mixed, then you don't have to shake it up or stir it every time you want to drink some, etc.

    But with so many other things lately, population control freaks are using these systems that are already in place to take away our freedoms, control people, make life more difficult instead of less difficult (unless you are one of 'them' in which case you can do as you like), and increasingly, pushing the limits of intrusive government to see how much Americans will take before they say "enough is enough!"

    Government regulation agencies have used pasteurization laws to enforce the banning of natural milk, to make it a CRIME to milk a cow and drink the milk, basically.  Why?  By this intrusion into what is none of their business, they can thereby control people.  

    They make it a legal requirement that milk from a cow has to go through a regulated process under inspection before it can be used for anything, once again, unless you are one of 'them', in which case you can do anything you want, including drink the milk immediately after the cow was milked.  

    Pasteurization doesn't only kill any 'bad' bacteria (which are usually practically non-existent) but it also kills good bacteria (beneficial for healthy digestion) and destroys vitamins and other natural nutrients in raw milk.  The dead bodies and broken molecules of these good things are in pasteurized milk, and it is these things that cause pasteurized milk to putrefy, unlike raw milk.  

    Raw milk does not spoil.  It does not 'go bad' ― it starts turning into cheese, all on its own.

    Which brings us to cottage cheese.

    Maybe you remember the cottage cheese of 50 years ago that you could buy at your local grocery store:  thick, creamy, delicious, healthy, plentiful, great in recipes, ubiquitous, easy-to-find?  Where is it today?  All you can find wherever you look (almost) is a runny, tasteless, limp, gooey, bland, unremarkable imitation of cottage cheese.  Why do you suppose that is?

    Maybe it's not important to you.

    But the government regulators have made it practically a capital offense to sell raw cottage cheese, almost worse than selling heroin or cocaine.

    Maybe we should be asking THEM, "What's the big deal?"  Because if you are one of 'them' you can get all the raw cottage cheese you want.  It's easy to make, because all you need is a cow and some basic equipment and some know-how, and some time and you can have raw cottage cheese, delicious food, happy healthy people and a normal life.  So why is that a problem?  It's only a problem when the regulators see an opportunity to enforce draconian penalties on SOMETHING, whatever it is matters not, so long as it gives them POWER, and they see cottage cheese as a means to apply the enduring principle of Niccolò Machiavelli:  Those Who Oppose You:  Kill Them.

    In this case, it comes down to KILLING any small business or farm (large or small) that dares to produce and sell raw cottage cheese.  It is literally a crime punishable by prison to sell raw cottage cheese, and there is NO HEALTH DANGER in selling raw cottage cheese.  It is ONLY an affront to those Machiavellian draconian nonsense laws to do so.  

    THEY are the ones making it a 'big deal' &#8213 not the natural farmers and loyal customers who just want to be left alone.

    The big deal is, it is another assault on our freedoms.


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    « Reply #14 on: December 30, 2013, 04:44:22 PM »
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    The MSM version of the 'truth' would have you go back to sleep, because if you are aware of the problem, you become a problem, but if you go to sleep, they can do with you what they want, which is to CONTROL you.  

    They want to control you, so go back to sleep.  It's not a problem. Okay?


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