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Evolutionist thinks Jesus would believe in Evolution
« on: April 10, 2011, 10:45:18 PM »
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  • I know I'm posting this a bit late -- I should have posted it on April 1st.
    Unbelievable how willfully blind people are, because of their attachment to sin.

    Men don't want to admit God is the creator, because then He is in charge and can tell us what to do. People don't want that. They want to be the highest force in their lives.


    My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you

    Editor's Note: Karl W. Giberson, Ph.D., is vice president of The BioLogos Foundation and is the author or coauthor of seven books, including The Language of Science and Faith.

    By Karl W. Giberson, Special to CNN

    Jesus once famously said, “I am the Truth.”

    Christianity at its best embodies this provocative idea and has long been committed to preserving, expanding and sharing truth. Most of the great universities of the world were founded by Christians committed to the truth—in all its forms—and to training new generations to carry it forward.

    When science began in the 17th century, Christians eagerly applied the new knowledge to alleviate suffering and improve living conditions.

    But when it comes to the truth of evolution, many Christians feel compelled to look the other way. They hold on to a particular interpretation of an ancient story in Genesis that they have fashioned into a modern account of origins - a story that began as an oral tradition for a wandering tribe of Jews thousands of years ago.

    This is the view on display in a $27 million dollar Creation Museum in Kentucky. It inspired the Institute for Creation Research, which purports to offer scientific support for creationism.

    And it’s hardly a fringe view. A 2010 Gallup poll indicated that 4 in 10 Americans think that “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.” (http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx)

    While Genesis contains wonderful insights into the relationship between God and the creation, it simply does not contain scientific ideas about the origin of the universe, the age of the earth or the development of life.

    For more than two centuries, careful scientific research, much of it done by Christians, has demonstrated clearly that the earth is billions years old, not mere thousands, as many creationists argue. We now know that the human race began millions of years ago in Africa - not thousands of years ago in the Middle East, as the story in Genesis suggests.

    And all life forms are related to each other though evolution. These are important truths that science has discovered through careful research. They are not “opinions” that can be set aside if you don’t like them.

    Anyone who values truth must take these ideas seriously, for they have been established as true beyond any reasonable doubt.

    There is much evidence for evolution. The most compelling comes from the study of genes, especially now that the Human Genome Project has been completed and the genomes of many other species being constantly mapped.

    In particular, humans share an unfortunate “broken gene” with many other primates, including chimpanzees, orangutans, and macaques. This gene, which works fine in most mammals, enables the production of Vitamin C. Species with broken versions of the gene can’t make Vitamin C and must get it from foods like oranges and lemons.

    Thousands of hapless sailors died painful deaths scurvy during the age of exploration because their “Vitamin C” gene was broken.

    How can different species have identical broken genes? The only reasonable explanation is that they inherited it from a common ancestor.

    Not surprisingly, evolution since the time of Darwin has claimed that humans, orangutans, chimpanzees, and macaques evolved recently from a common ancestor. The new evidence from genetics corroborates this.

    Such evidence proves common ancestry with a level of certainty comparable to the evidence that the earth goes around the sun.

    This is but one of many, many evidences that support the truth of evolution - that make it a “sacred fact” that Christians must embrace in the name of truth. And they should embrace this truth with enthusiasm, for this is the world that God created.

    Christians must come to welcome - rather than fear - the ideas of evolution. Truths about Nature are sacred, for they speak of our Creator. Such truths constitute “God’s second book” for Christians to read alongside the Bible.

    In the 17th century, Galileo used the metaphor of the “two books” to help Christians of his generation understand the sacred truth that the earth moves about the sun. “The Bible,” he liked to say, “tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens ago.”

    To understand how the heavens go we must read the book of Nature, not the Bible.

    The Book of nature reveals the truth that God created the world through gradual processes over billions of years, rather than over the course of six days, as many creationists believe.

    Evolution does not contradict the Bible unless you force an unreasonable interpretation on that ancient book.

    To suppose, as the so-called young earth creationists do, that God dictated modern scientific ideas to ancient and uncomprehending scribes is to distort the biblical message beyond recognition. Modern science was not in the worldview of the biblical authors and it is not in the Bible.

    Science is not a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith. It’s an honest exploration of the wonderful world that God created.

    We are often asked to think about what Jesus would do, if he lived among us today. Who would Jesus vote for? What car would he drive?

    To these questions we should add “What would Jesus believe about origins?”

    And the answer? Jesus would believe evolution, of course. He cares for the Truth.

    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Karl W. Giberson.
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    Evolutionist thinks Jesus would believe in Evolution
    « Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 10:48:50 PM »
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  • Well, for starters I doubt Jesus would drive a car. And if this guy were to get out his Bible he'd see that what he's saying is a load of garbage. Lots of scientists think in these crazy ways, and this guy is no exception, he's full of it.


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    Evolutionist thinks Jesus would believe in Evolution
    « Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 10:59:38 PM »
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  • I wouldn't know where to begin ripping apart his utter nonsense.

    His bit about digging into the details of the Human Genome and DNA? That was going to be MY argument (for Creationism), bub!

    He's got a lot of nerve.

    The arguments for Creationism are absolutely compelling -- for those with an objective mind. For those who have a hidden fear of submitting to God's authority -- they might make up ANY excuse to not believe the truth right in front of their face.
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    Evolutionist thinks Jesus would believe in Evolution
    « Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 07:38:19 AM »
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  • The guy is a heretic (assuming, of course, that he has been validly baptized); as I said elsewhere recently, his big error is as follows:

    Modernists make the One and Triune God subject to His own physical laws, which He created.

    God made the Universe and the physical laws that govern them; as such, He can break those laws whenever He wishes to.  When such events happen, they are referred to as miracles.

    The Creation of the first human being, Adam, and his wife, Eve, were miracles.  Fully-grown human beings do not appear ex nihilo.  Human beings require the union of one male sperm with one female egg.  Even if human cloning will become a reality someday, any such human being will start-out small, as a single cell or a collection of a few cells.  Unlike Adam & Eve, any such person will certainly not have language.  That is something that we all must learn.

    Adam started-out fully grown; so did Eve.  Their existence was the result of the miraculous workings of God, not nature, and certainly, not Darwinian evolution.

     

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