Why do you think he's so important as to be your avatar?
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This is all relevant. Elvis is not dead, the Earth is flat. I will say there are a lot of conspiaracies out there and I believe a lot of them, but this guy will believe anything. The fact that Elvis, a theosophist etc..., is his hero or whatever, is very revealing.
Yet when I predicted that encouraging this junk would lead to Bigfoot sightings, I was chastened. ::).
It was a JOKE. We were sent to the ghetto, and so I thought of his song, which I posted.
Why do you think he's so important as to be your avatar?
Loose screw....?.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-d5EuZ6pT5Os/TZMURMi6uII/AAAAAAAAAKc/qGcHzqNtBQw/s1600/Screw-loose.lowrez.jpg)
You guys need to get a grip...and a sense of humor.
I don't really know much about Elvis Presley's personal beliefs. I am aware that present-era musicians are deeply involved in the occult, but I don't know about Presley's involvement.
Got this off of a Baptist site. There are many other sites with this type of information. Why do you think he's so important as to be your avatar?
It was a JOKE. We were sent to the ghetto....
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You guys need to get a grip...and a sense of humor.
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.No, Neil Stupidat, the flat earth is not a joke. However, my avatar is. Try to keep up.It was just a JOKE all along?! ............................ So you've been SAYING "the earth is flat" but you don't really mean it?!.WOW that's hilarious. :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1:.
Try to keep up.Now that's funny.
But not funny ha-haMmm... I'm going more with a kinda "derisive incredulity" motif on this one.
Unfortunately the video is gone Tradplorable. I got through up to the interview and said I would finish it today. Alas its gone. I was so much looking forward to it.It's still there cassini:
It was of course a skit, a great bit of fiction enacted as real. I enjoyed the visit to Elvis's house to see his gold records and pictures, looking at his shows that brought fun to us teenagers.
I have just watched the video on Elvis and his twinless twins. Fascinating, especially the X-ray of the two twins in the womb. I heard one man state life begins at conception. I was moved by the loss suffered by the twin that lived/lives. I could picture God creating two souls at the same time inside the womb of the mother. I can understand how such lliving twins could feel a spititual communication with their dead brother or sister. I could also understand the feeling of guilt that they lived and their twin died. If Elvis was tormented by this, God will have understood.
Elvis played a huge part in my life and others of my generation. I do not recall his giving any scandal to me or other Catholic friends in our time. Indeed I always associated him with Christianity which is more that can be said about any of today's stars. We loved his rock and roll, often played at the parish dances we went to in the early 60s. These dances always had a priest there to separate any boy and girl getting too close to one another.
Recently there was a great programme on Elvis's demise and death. there were interviews with some of his friends and musicians who played with him, some who found him dead and accompanied him to the hospital. Elvis is dead, Lord have mercy on his soul.
Once again I am shocked at the judgements posted on this forum. Elvis was a devil and all that.
I am the same age Elvis would have been, so lived every day he lived and was never scandalised by him. Didn't the Lord himself tell us not to judge lest we shall be judged.
Finally I recall another comment on Elvis. It went like this:
‘The numerological decline of practicing Christians in the world would appear to be irreversible. The present Pope [John Paul II] has said that if the decline continues at the present rate then in 70 years there will be no Christians on the face of the planet [see, always “planet” not the Earth]. This prophecy is perhaps pessimistic. It ignores the human capacity to be inconsistent…Christianity will survive in a more or less undiluted form. A civilisation which readily believes in flying saucers and the resurrection of Elvis Presley should have no difficulty to swallow what is dished out by the tele-evangelists.’ ---A. N. Wilson, writer and historian, Daily Express, Oct. 21, 1999, pp.44-45.
Oh, just about to watch a recorded investigation into the 'Big Foots of the world, should be interesting.
There is no question that Elvis was a very flawed individual. He is certainly not a model for Catholics. That being said, there were signs of a possible conversion. He was a long-time friend of Fr. Bolduc. They met in the US Army in Germany. They were room-mates. After the Army they kept in touch and Elvis donated money to Fr. Bolduc's apostolates. Elvis was certainly aware that Fr. Bolduc was not only a Catholic priest but also a traditional Catholic priest. Elvis also recorded a song in honor of Our Lady.
Elvis Hail Mary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlelYprF2M)
It's still there cassini:
http://main.snagfilms.com/films/title/elvis_found_alive
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Got it tradplorable, thanks, I am in to it one hour. Gosh I need a break.Same here, was never into the Beatles. I hope it turns out to be true. Wouldn't that be something if he does reappear? People will go crazy!
What a fascinating story of Elvis's life. The history of his time, and America, is most interesting. Certainly no saint, but what a complicated life he had, good guy, bad guy. But then came the Beatles, drugs, hippies etc.
I lived through it all. Never had any time for the Beatles, hated their music. Moreover you could not dance to it.
Gee, its like going back into the past.
Same here, was never into the Beatles. I hope it turns out to be true. Wouldn't that be something if he does reappear? People will go crazy!I don't understand who you could wish him to be alive in this mess of a world With people going crazy.
Does this mean that you think "at best" Elvis went directly to heaven at his death? Or do you think "at best" he's still alive?Guess Hell is only for Catholics...
I could be wrong, if so, I apologize but it seemed to follow my comment?Not needed, I have an extra tee-shirt if you like. :jester:
Freedom, his statement didn't have anything to do with you from what I saw. It was in reference to Nadir's comment I believe.:cheers:
Yet when I predicted that encouraging this junk would lead to Bigfoot sightings, I was chastened. ::)
Unfortunately the video is gone Tradplorable. I got through up to the interview and said I would finish it today. Alas its gone. I was so much looking forward to it.Nothing scandalous? Why wouldn't early programming televise him below the waist in his performances?
It was of course a skit, a great bit of fiction enacted as real. I enjoyed the visit to Elvis's house to see his gold records and pictures, looking at his shows that brought fun to us teenagers.
I have just watched the video on Elvis and his twinless twins. Fascinating, especially the X-ray of the two twins in the womb. I heard one man state life begins at conception. I was moved by the loss suffered by the twin that lived/lives. I could picture God creating two souls at the same time inside the womb of the mother. I can understand how such lliving twins could feel a spititual communication with their dead brother or sister. I could also understand the feeling of guilt that they lived and their twin died. If Elvis was tormented by this, God will have understood.
Elvis played a huge part in my life and others of my generation. I do not recall his giving any scandal to me or other Catholic friends in our time. Indeed I always associated him with Christianity which is more that can be said about any of today's stars. We loved his rock and roll, often played at the parish dances we went to in the early 60s. These dances always had a priest there to separate any boy and girl getting too close to one another.
Recently there was a great programme on Elvis's demise and death. there were interviews with some of his friends and musicians who played with him, some who found him dead and accompanied him to the hospital. Elvis is dead, Lord have mercy on his soul.
Once again I am shocked at the judgements posted on this forum. Elvis was a devil and all that.
I am the same age Elvis would have been, so lived every day he lived and was never scandalised by him. Didn't the Lord himself tell us not to judge lest we shall be judged.
Finally I recall another comment on Elvis. It went like this:
‘The numerological decline of practicing Christians in the world would appear to be irreversible. The present Pope [John Paul II] has said that if the decline continues at the present rate then in 70 years there will be no Christians on the face of the planet [see, always “planet” not the Earth]. This prophecy is perhaps pessimistic. It ignores the human capacity to be inconsistent…Christianity will survive in a more or less undiluted form. A civilisation which readily believes in flying saucers and the resurrection of Elvis Presley should have no difficulty to swallow what is dished out by the tele-evangelists.’ ---A. N. Wilson, writer and historian, Daily Express, Oct. 21, 1999, pp.44-45.
Oh, just about to watch a recorded investigation into the 'Big Foots of the world, should be interesting.
Does this mean that you think "at best" Elvis went directly to heaven at his death? Or do you think "at best" he's still alive?No, and no.
Nothing scandalous?Grant that this is true; so what?
Nothing scandalous? Why wouldn't early programming televise him below the waist in his performances?
If you believe he is in purgatory, the prayers need be directed towards you. The servant of Satan died face down with his pajamas around his ankles. Some claim he was reading a pornography book, which I would presume to believe since he was addicted to fornication.
Certainly didn't die in the odor of sanctity.
"To the Unknown God"
Once more, before I move on
I am directing my gaze forward
In loneliness, I am lifting my hands
Up to Thee, to whom I flee,
To whom I, from the deepest bottom of my heart
Solemnly consecrate altars
So that, at all times,
His voice would call me again.
Thereupon, written deeply inside, the word
Is blazing like fire: To the unknown God:
I am his, even if I remained with the hord of the infidels
Up to this hour:
I am his – and I feel the ties
That pull me down in fight
And, even if I should flee,
Still would force me into his service.
I want to know Thee, Unknown One
Thou, who is reaching deeply into my soul,
Who is raging through my life like a storm
Thou Unfathomable One, akin to me!
I want to know Thee, and serve Thee.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Finally, I understand Elvis was a good friend of Fr Bolduc, a onetime superior of the American SSPX. He asked Elvis to help the SSPX district headquarters. Elvis gave them a large donation.
We are talking about the early 1960s here, and what I said was that Elvis never scandalised me or others, boys and girls, of my place and generation. Maybe we were all so innocent then but I never remember anybody interpreting his dancing as anything other than great fun. Thank God for that innocence, it kept our minds clean. Maybe others, like TV, did interpret his dancing as vulgar and it took time to come to terms with it.
Later, when the music business was corrupted with the Beatles, Rolling stones and others who lived with drugs and promiscuity it tainted the rock and roll of Elvis's time.
Elvis said he just moved to the music, just as we rock and rolled to the music, just as Irish dancers move to the music.
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2017/1013/912283-alex-collins-baltimore-ravens-irish-dancing/
Finally, I understand Elvis was a good friend of Fr Bolduc, a onetime superior of the American SSPX. He asked Elvis to help the SSPX district headquarters. Elvis gave them a large donation.
It's this level of rigor that really inspires...
Meg, here is why you and many many others have been hoodwinked these days...you and many others judge a large donation (allegedly) as good or an indication that he was a good person.... and look past the fact that the man was an adulterer among many other things and lived in constant enmity with God.
This is a common theme these days..."Oh he/she was such a good person, would give you the shirt off their back, etc... all at the same time lived publicly as a fornicator, adulterer, etc... hater of God and His commands. Any good a person does is of no value if they are not in a state of grace when they preform it.
...merely naturally good acts are only a counterfeit of virtue since they are neither permanent nor sufficient for salvation.
St. Pius X Editae Saepe
... I have a difficult time condemning others.:laugh2:
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:laugh2:There is an ocean of difference between condemning someone of their past sins and correcting someones current error.
There is an ocean of difference between condemning someone of their past sins and correcting someones current error.With all due miss/ma'am, your point is what exactly?
Absolutely, we all have lived different degrees of sinful lives, and I would argue my degree would be the highest. Glory be to the mercy of God that we are able to still work.
Are you condemning others or defending God's law?
Let me ask you, if you told someone who was guilty of 1st degree murder that they would either get the death penalty or 25 years to life in jail would you be condemning them? Would you be judging them?
If you believe he is in purgatory, the prayers need be directed towards you. The servant of Satan died face down with his pajamas around his ankles. Some claim he was reading a pornography book, which I would presume to believe since he was addicted to fornication.Would you please tell me where I will end up after death, o holy prophet of the predestined?
Certainly didn't die in the odor of sanctity.
Saying what God has said isn't saying it yourself.
Douay-Rheims Bible (http://biblehub.com/drb/luke/6.htm)
Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you shall be forgiven.
Didn't He tell us not to judge, lest we should be judged for doing so? Only God knows everything and whereas probably most we knew who deserved hell are probably there anyway, I would not go public in judging someone like Elvis, a sinner like us all in his own way. But just as we HOPE God will forgive us, we can hope he forgave men like Elvis who had a troubled life that I am glad I did not have.
We are taught not to judge RASHLY. So you do not understand.Here's another question, just for thought; if the cited scripture is to be taken as this person suggests, then how do we;
A man and woman are walking down the street, to assume they are fornicators is to judge rashly.
A man and woman that are participating in lustful acts towards one and other in public, could be assumed as fornicators. This is not judging rashly.
Elvis is in hell because he didn't love Jesus, how do I know he didn't love Jesus?
If you love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
He who saith that he knoweth him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4
The man condemned himself, not me. He wasn't even Catholic.
That is all I will comment on this.
I don't understandAn Even Seven asked:whohow you could wish him to be alive in this mess of a world With people going crazy.
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Thank you, Cassini, for a note of common sense and to ClemensMaria for the Hail Mary by Elvis, who sings that Mary is holding back her Son's hand.
Makes me think that at worst Elvis is suffering in purgatory, so pray for him.
Does this mean that you think "at best" Elvis went directly to heaven at his death? Or do you think "at best" he's still alive?
No and No.
Nadir, I am not trying to nit-pick but you said "Makes me think that at worst Elvis is suffering in purgatory, so pray for him." This implies that best case scenario, Elvis went straight to heaven. Either way he lived and died, at least externally, as a non-Catholic and we are to assume he went to hell right? Just an explanation please.