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Offline klasG4e

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Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
« on: June 16, 2018, 05:50:58 PM »
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  • CONTRACEPTION is the elephant in that room.  Message to White Nationalists: God can not be pleased with Whites who do what their enemy, the Jєωιѕн Supremacists want them to do -- contracept, which is nothing more than mutual masturbation and part of White genocide.  As long as the White Nationalists ignore this issue they ignore God's law and the consequences of ignoring that law will render their movement (which has very legitimate grievances) an exercise in futility.

    God: Be fruitful and multiply.  Devil: Be sterile and die out.


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    Re: Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
    « Reply #1 on: June 18, 2018, 03:54:31 AM »
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  • CONTRACEPTION is the elephant in that room.  Message to White Nationalists: God can not be pleased with Whites who do what their enemy, the Jєωιѕн Supremacists want them to do -- contracept, which is nothing more than mutual masturbation and part of White genocide.  As long as the White Nationalists ignore this issue they ignore God's law and the consequences of ignoring that law will render their movement (which has very legitimate grievances) an exercise in futility.

    God: Be fruitful and multiply.  Devil: Be sterile and die out.
    That is a message to the people of the world, but it is not the real answer because they are people of the city of man and not people of the City of God. The truth is that they should not have children so that they disappear along with all the others of the world, for they are not fit to raise children.


    The real answer to them is that unless they return to the true faith and really live it, they do not stand a chance against Satan and his affiliates.  There is no other answer, there is no "middle of the road" solution.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


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    Re: Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
    « Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 04:58:35 AM »
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  • That is a message to the people of the world, but it is not the real answer because they are people of the city of man and not people of the City of God. The truth is that they should not have children so that they disappear along with all the others of the world, for they are not fit to raise children.


    The real answer to them is that unless they return to the true faith and really live it, they do not stand a chance against Satan and his affiliates.  There is no other answer, there is no "middle of the road" solution.

    What sweeping generalizations (demonizations?) you make!

    There is nothing wrong in being proud of any true good in your racial heritage as well as your national heritage and any proper and valid connection between the two.  It doesn't necessarily mean you contemn other races any more than you want your race to be contemned by Jєωιѕн Supremacists or any other group.  Any movement (including that the White Nationalist one) can be subject to all kinds of errors, but that does not mean that we should simply out of hand condemn the movement as opposed to trying to correct or influence it for the good via the application of Catholic principles.

    Please realize that the Church does not condemn temporal movements simply because they are not in strict accord with every fundamental Catholic Principle.  The Vatican via Pope Pius IX was the first government in the world to recognize the South when it exercised its constitutional right to secede from the Union.  The Pope even sent a hand made crown of thorns to the Confederacy's President Jefferson Davis when he was held in chains in a Northern prison cell.  (Davis and the South were demonized in history books and still are in many ways that White Nationalists are today.  By the way, Jєωs -- and this is a well docuмented fact, albeit a very suppressed one -- were much, much more likely to own slaves be it in the South and the North than Whites were before, during, and after the cινιℓ ωαr.)

    You make the astounding statement that "they should not have children so that they disappear along with all the others of the world, for they are not fit to raise children."  Frankly, that sounds like an assertion from hell. It certainly runs contrary to any kind of Christian principle.  How do you propose that "they should not have children?"  By contraception?  By abortion?  By infanticide?

    You say the answer lies in them returning to the true faith.  Many were never in the true faith in the first place so they certainly can't return to it, although they hopefully can convert.  Regardless of whether one belongs to the true faith or not they have a natural right to procreate if they are validly married and yes zillions of people are validly married even though they are not of the true faith.

    My point in the OP was simply to point out a great error in the White Nationalist movement which is largely ignored.  Yes, short of invincible ignorance preventing them from making a conscious and knowing decision to come into the Church they are condemned to hell, but if they would stop contracepting they should have a better chance of being receptive to being converted to the True Faith and if they are already in the Church and they stop contracepting then they will stand a better chance of growing strong in the faith as opposed to continuing to live in an objective and very possibly a subjective state of mortal sin.

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    Re: Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
    « Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 11:24:44 AM »
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  • but if they would stop contracepting they should have a better chance of being receptive to being converted to the True Faith
    It works the other way around, if they respond to God's grace they will convert to the true faith lived and then they will have the children  AND raise them right.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
    « Reply #4 on: June 19, 2018, 02:00:06 PM »
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  • if they respond to God's grace they will convert to the true faith lived and then they will have the children  AND raise them right.

    As long as they respond sufficiently to God's grace.  In any event, the portion of your statement above does not contradict my statement: "if they would stop contracepting they should have a better chance of being receptive to being converted to the True Faith." If you don't believe my statement is true then please be so kind as to show me exactly how it is not true.


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    Re: Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
    « Reply #5 on: June 19, 2018, 08:40:30 PM »
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  • "if they would stop contracepting they should have a better chance of being receptive to being converted to the True Faith." 
    The Mohamedans and Orthodox Jєωs do not contracept, and there are some Protestant groups that do not contracept either,  I do not see that inclining them to converting. No, there is only one solution and that is living the Catholic faith. Till they do that, everything else will not produce a change in the world for they will still be allies of the devil whether they know it or not.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Elephant in the Room of White Nationalists
    « Reply #6 on: June 19, 2018, 09:23:23 PM »
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  • The Mohamedans and Orthodox Jєωs do not contracept, and there are some Protestant groups that do not contracept either, I do not see that inclining them to converting. No, there is only one solution and that is living the Catholic faith. Till they do that, everything else will not produce a change in the world for they will still be allies of the devil whether they know it or not.

    Sorry, but the subject people I was and am speaking about are White Nationalists, not Mohamedans and Orthodox Jєωs, almost none of whom are White Nationalists so your point regarding them is not applicable in terms of my  OP.  I doubt very much that there are any significant number of White Nationalists in these Protestant groups (please name them) you are referring to either.

    You seem to keep trying to steer the conversation away from the simple point I was making in the OP.  I will not be diverted into reframing my OP on your terms.  Sorry!