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East did not obey Pope in olden days?
« on: June 21, 2023, 01:01:58 AM »
What do you think? This seems like shoddy scholarship. In the video interview with this Dr. or Fr. truly? Richard Price, he says the East did not accept a doctrinal ruling of the Roman Pontiff unless they approved it in a council from about 52:36 to 52:47.




And wait, there's more (some errors of his):


  • The East did not recognize nor “believe” papal infallibility nor papal supremacy. The East did want to maintain good relations with Old Rome.
  • The East regarded the Bishop of Rome as a “senior bishop” out of respect for his office.
  • The East did not require papal ratification for Ecuмenical Synods, nor did the East believe that any Ecuмenical Synods required affirmation by the Bishop of Rome to be validated. The East wanted Old Rome’s approval so that decrees could be merely “circulated in the West” by Old Rome–to be of one mind.
  • The East believed the Emperor called Ecuмenical Synods and instituted their decrees as law, as “God’s co-ruler” and as the “Guardian of the Church.”
  • The Eastern provinces did not recognize Old Rome’s jurisdiction.

https://orthodoxidation.com/the-east-rejected-papal-claims-fr-richard-price-on-reason-theology/


Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: East did not obey Pope in olden days?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2023, 05:12:02 AM »
What do you think? This seems like shoddy scholarship. In the video interview with this Dr. or Fr. truly? Richard Price, he says the East did not accept a doctrinal ruling of the Roman Pontiff unless they approved it in a council from about 52:36 to 52:47.




And wait, there's more (some errors of his):


  • The East did not recognize nor “believe” papal infallibility nor papal supremacy. The East did want to maintain good relations with Old Rome.
  • The East regarded the Bishop of Rome as a “senior bishop” out of respect for his office.
  • The East did not require papal ratification for Ecuмenical Synods, nor did the East believe that any Ecuмenical Synods required affirmation by the Bishop of Rome to be validated. The East wanted Old Rome’s approval so that decrees could be merely “circulated in the West” by Old Rome–to be of one mind.
  • The East believed the Emperor called Ecuмenical Synods and instituted their decrees as law, as “God’s co-ruler” and as the “Guardian of the Church.”
  • The Eastern provinces did not recognize Old Rome’s jurisdiction.

https://orthodoxidation.com/the-east-rejected-papal-claims-fr-richard-price-on-reason-theology/
The east obeyed Pope Clement in the first century when he wrote to them using persona Christ.

Also I think one of the bonifaces ruled from Constantinople but I'm not sure on this 



Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: East did not obey Pope in olden days?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2023, 05:14:22 AM »
  • The East believed the Emperor called Ecuмenical Synods and instituted their decrees as law, as “God’s co-ruler” and as the “Guardian of the Church.”
It was always politics with the east. They wanted to obey a man rather than God.

Offline ElwinRansom1970

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Re: East did not obey Pope in olden days?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2023, 05:16:07 AM »
It was always politics with the east. They wanted to obey a man rather than God.
And ir was always politics with the Latin West.

:clown:

Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: East did not obey Pope in olden days?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2023, 05:17:08 AM »
And ir was always politics with the Latin West.

:clown:
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Your clown image seems to indicate you are making a joke?