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Offline Salve Regina

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E. Michael Jones
« on: October 14, 2011, 12:34:26 PM »
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  • Hello all.  I am brand new to this website.  I am a revert, having returned to the Catholic Church 4 years ago after being gone for 38 years.  I won't go into all the details, but it's been an interesting journey back, and I have become a very traditional Catholic.  In the last few months, thanks to the internet, I have been learning about the Illuminati, Freemasons, and the NWO.  My mother had talked about this stuff for years and I had always thought she was crazy.  Then I started studying into Fatima, which led me to the "errors of Russia" and the evil that completely infiltrates this world.  

    During the past couple of weeks, I stumbled onto E. Michael Jones.  He seems to be a very traditional devout Catholic.  This is his website.

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    His book, "The Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History" (1200 pages!!!!) basically says that God's covenant is from Abraham to Moses to Christ to the Catholic Church, and that it ended with the Jєωs.  He gives a few examples of this, but one that he points to is the temple curtain being torn.  He says that the Jєωs we see today are a religious construct, and they are not the same as the Jєωs of the Old Testament.  And of course, this leads to the Illuminati and Freemasons, NWO, etc.  He says that the last 2000 years of history is basically the war the Jєωs have declared against the Catholic Church.

    I am curious if anyone knows anything about him and has any opinions regarding him and his thesis.  

    One thing that I have come to see so clearly from the little bit I have learned from him is how absolutely essential the Mass is.  If not for the Mass, and the daily re-presentation of Christ's Sacrifice, I believe our sins would bring the wrath of God down upon this world and completely destroy it.  It also makes me understand why the Mass is a "Sacrifice" and not a communal meal, as so many now would like it to be.  

    Sorry this has been so long.  I'll try to be more succinct in the future.  Thanks in advance.  
    I am convinced that the crisis in the Church that we are experiencing today is to a large extent due to the disintegration of the liturgy                                                            


    Offline Catholic Samurai

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 01:27:06 PM »
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  • From what little I know about him, and from what I have heard him say and read from him in the past, he covers the some of issues of Judaism, but when it comes to the crisis in the Church, he seems to ignore the obvious infiltration of the Church by freemasons at the highest level of the hierarchy (not necessarily the Pope).

    Also he has upheld the (unverifiable and very serious) allegations that have been made concerning the late Fr.Malachi Martin.

    But I think what really raises a red-flag for me is the fact that he's been associated with Fidelity magazine, which has been very anti-traditionalist in the past (though they did dig up good dirt on things like Medjigorji and Naceda).


    He's not one of the fellows I have tried to keep track of, so it's old info. Maybe he's changed his position on some things during that time. I don't know.

    But anyone finds any of the above to be inaccurate, do correct me.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


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    Offline Salve Regina

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 03:34:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai

    From what little I know about him, and from what I have heard him say and read from him in the past, he covers the some of issues of Judaism, but when it comes to the crisis in the Church, he seems to ignore the obvious infiltration of the Church by freemasons at the highest level of the hierarchy (not necessarily the Pope).

    Also he has upheld the (unverifiable and very serious) allegations that have been made concerning the late Fr.Malachi Martin.

    But I think what really raises a red-flag for me is the fact that he's been associated with Fidelity magazine, which has been very anti-traditionalist in the past (though they did dig up good dirt on things like Medjigorji and Naceda).


    He's not one of the fellows I have tried to keep track of, so it's old info. Maybe he's changed his position on some things during that time. I don't know.

    But anyone finds any of the above to be inaccurate, do correct me.


    Thanks for the info.  I did a little googling on the info you supply, and it does seem that he went after Malachi Martin, and that hits close to home because I really love Fr. Martin.  I think he was very brave in writing and speaking on the things he did.  I was recently talking to a retired NYC cop, and he said that there is a possibility there is going to an investigation into Fr. Martin's death.  The circuмstances do seem very suspicious, and I think he may have paid the ultimate price for speaking out as he did.  

    I do know that Michael Jones does talk very much about Jєωιѕн infiltration into the church, and I think that can be equated with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  

    I am glad to hear that he does not support Medjugorje - that is always a plus as far as I'm concerned.  I'm always amazed at how many people accept Medjugorje as fact.  The whole things just reeks of fraud.  We have so many real apparitions that we can look to with real messages from our Blessed Mother.  The only thing I can think is that the Medjugorje messages don't threaten people, they don't speak of the "annihilation of whole nations" as Fatima does, or great apostasy in the Church as Akita does.  

    I don't know if I'm ready to invest in Jones' 1200 page book yet.  From what you wrote, it seems the only really negative thing is his feelings towards Malachi Martin.  

    So much to learn - it's hard to know where to start!  
    I am convinced that the crisis in the Church that we are experiencing today is to a large extent due to the disintegration of the liturgy                                                            

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 03:39:32 PM »
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  • Welcome, Salve! I like your screen-name.

    I also like Fr. Malachi Martin, he wasn't scared to speak the truth of what was hapenning.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

    Offline Anna1959

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 04:24:44 PM »
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  • I'm not crazy about E Michael Jones due to his support of the bogus ordo church,  BUT HE IS INCREDIBLY RIGHT ON REGARDING THE WHOLE Jєωιѕн ISSUE. I can speak from fristhand experience because I was raised in an (Orthodox) Jєωιѕн family and community.
    "If I am not in the state of grace, may the Lord put me in it. And if I am in the state of grace, may the Lord keep me in it".--St Jehanne D'Arc, during her trial.


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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 05:35:24 PM »
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  • Benedict XVI(16)  anti-pope.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 07:38:51 PM »
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  • Fr. Gruner had some interesting things to say about E. Michael Jones including that he is actually a Jєω. Gruner sued Jones at one point too for defamation of character. There are some interesting things in this book  Smoke of Satan, the Jones allegation is on pg 82

    http://books.google.com/books?id=8OL9tyvN5YcC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=father+gruner+e+michael+jones+Jєωιѕн&source=bl&ots=TRs9sFH_o3&sig=20or-YjyaZBPVfB_yEB-ZC9FR8A&hl=en&ei=RwCmTqqoL6z3mAWk2LXADw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=jones&f=false

    Offline roscoe

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 07:47:51 PM »
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  • Thank U Thurs
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


    Offline Diego

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 08:34:00 PM »
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  • Dr. Jones has, I believe, a good grasp of history, an improving grasp of Judaism, and, in view of his recognition of the infiltration, subversion, and perversion that abounds, a surprising attachment to the Novus Ordo. His book is a worthy read, but—May I suggest?—should be supplemented by reading these:

    Michael Hoffman, ISBN 9780970378453, now out-of-print so very pricey

    or his expanded and very affordable second edition of [url=https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0Bwg8nmLrvOTjNDJiNjQzYTQtMTg2OS00Mjk5LWJhZjgtOTE0MWEwNDIyODA1&hl=en_US]Judaism's Strange Gods
    , expected Nov 15.

    Michael Hoffman, The New Catholic ‘Shoah’ Theology: Alibi for the Revolutionary Overthrow of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
    Revisionist History Newsletter no. 47


    Mary Ball Martinez, The Undermining of the Catholic Church
    and
    Vicomte Leon de Poncins, Judaism and the Vatican, ISBN 9780904656220, both available at the bookstore of
    http://www.omnicbc.com

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    If I do save my soul, Fr. Martin played a pivotal role and I love him for that.  That said, I believe the weight of the evidence confirms his complicity in the Judaizing of Vatican 2. So, he too was a man with his own sins. I pray for the repose of his soul, as I hope others will someday pray for me.

    Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine.
    Et lux perpetua luceat ei.
    Requiescat in pace.
    Amen.
    Anima ejus et animum omnium fidelium defunctorum per misericordiam Dei requiescant in pace.
    Amen.


    Offline roscoe

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    E. Michael Jones
    « Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 08:35:54 PM »
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  • Some say M Martin repented in the end-- I hope this is true.

    MO is stay away from MB Martinez.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 08:56:58 PM »
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  • Why do you advise against Mary Ball Martinez?

    For me, her reporting helps connect some very important dots in the twentieth century, namely the "dots" connecting the protégés of the Freemasonic Cardinal Secretary of State Rampolla.

    It is certainly possible that I am wildly wrong, but I believe the conclave following the death of Pope Leo XIII that initially elected Rampolla was one of, if not the defining event of the twentieth century.

    A priest told me that there was a compendium circulating in Europe that disputed her reporting, but I was never able to find it.



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    « Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 11:09:48 PM »
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  • Apparently U are new here as the Card Rampolla scam has been debunked long ago. This was a great man of the Church. Mrs Martinez is after Pius XII with this con job.  It is true that Pius XII is a student and admirer of Rampolla but this is a good thing. This prob means that Pope Gregory is a decendant of Rampolla  as the former was the choice of Pope Pacelli.
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    « Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 11:25:26 PM »
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  • Roscoe, I've been wanting to ask you this for 4 years. Are you in any way related to Rampolla?

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    « Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 12:18:29 AM »
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    Roscoe, I've been wanting to ask you this for 4 years. Are you in any way related to Rampolla?
    How come U waited so long? Not that I am aware of.
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    « Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 12:33:56 AM »
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  • We were too busy arguing about other things to discuss Rampolla. :wink:

    Have you ever read The Americanist Heresy in Roman Catholicism by Thomas McAvoy?

    Edit: I'll get to the point. I have not read it yet (it's a very difficult book to come by), but someone I know who has read it said, according to the book, that Rampolla tried to get Leo XIII to not condemn Americanism, and managed to convince Leo XIII to go easy on James Gibbons and the other Americanist clergy.