Author Topic: E. Michael Jones (Read 10902 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #35 on:** October 27, 2011, 08:57:03 PM »

I have 2 books that explain Pius IX abolished the veto but cannot recall them off the top of my head. All Pius X did was add the penalty of ex-communication to anyone who tried it again. Merry Del Val was on the side of Pius X -- not FJ. This should not be to surprising as he was Sec of State.

Your observation about understanding the relationship between Rampolla and Pius X is quite true-- they were close friends and the Pope had nothing but praise for him. I would advise reading

1-- Papal Chamberlain by Mc Nutt
2-- Popes Against The Judaix and Prisoner Of the Vatican by D Kertzer

The Don Ricossa article is necessary also. The Prob is he doesn't understand that for the last 26 yrs of his life, Rampolla only saw Della Chiesa casually 4 or 5 times. They were not close and Rampolla suspected the modernist tendencies of Della Chiesa just as The Pope and Card Raphael did.

roscoe · « **Reply #36 on:** October 27, 2011, 09:19:12 PM »

The whole theory of Mrs Martinez rests on 2 main fallacies.

1-- That the Capricana Institute( attended by Rampolla in the 19th Century) was a modernist breeding grounds and 2-- the modernism of Della Chiesa is somehow decended from Rampolla because of their close relationship.

Diego · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2011, 09:21:02 PM »

Quote from: Thursday

I wouldn't bother debunking that one. There is a very respectable man by the name of Louis Hubert Remy, who has a critique of Fr. Ricossa's article "Was Cardinal Rampolla a Feremason?" on his website. Although Remy did not write that article he was personally aquainted with Bishop Jouin. Remy and an associate were also the first ones to confront Cardinal Siri in 1985 about having been elected Pope in 1985.

Only problem is it is in French. I saw it last summer but never had the time to try and translate it.
http://www.a-c-r-f.com/principal.html

scroll down til you see this, that is the article.

SOUS LA BANNIÈRE, n° 144, juillet-AOÛT 2009,
pages 20-31
INFILTRATIONS DANS L’ÉGLISE
par FÉLIX CAUSAS

Publié avec la permission de l'auteur

Thank you!

GOOGLE TRANSLATION:

Under the banner, No. 144, July-August 2009, pages 20-31
INFILTRATION IN THE CHURCH
by FELIX CAUSES
Who dared to defend Rampolla?
FARCE?
Nonsense?
or HOAX?
A renegade followers of Archbishop Lefebvre and defends the F ∴ M ∴ Rampolla.
Is it just a joke? Is it pure stupidity?
Either they are sedevacantists Italian to join the camp-Tanoüarn Celier and Co.
in argument for the lack of plot against the Church?
But you do not have to take them seriously.

In an extensive article of 35 pages entitled "The Cardinal Rampolla was he a Freemason?" Which appeared in the French edition of the Italian magazine " Sodalitium " Number 62 , Father Ricossa is not only questioned the affiliation Cardinal Rampolla's Masonic membership but also Upper-Illuminist Lucifero Masonry of the OTO.
We note at the outset that the title of the article, itself, is already one in doubt that the rest of the paper will undertake to expand until the final fall!
It should be noted before entering the heart of the matter we have other things to do in a state of emergency where we are today than fighting other Catholics, even if they are not our trend! We prefer to book all our energy to fight the occult power in all its manifestations!
However, from time to time when the honor of certain persons involved with unconscious, procedures or require the enemy, and also on behalf of fraternal correction, we must not hesitate to intervene. The struggle for truth requires; the fight against the enemy too!
Regarding the case Rampolla, we have already said what we said in our previous article, the abbot Ricossa by Article dishonest he has committed, requires us to answer him point by now point, although the facts are fully called into question long-established.

Read the article online ...

- Felix Causa, INFILTRATION IN THE CHURCH

Speaking no French, the links to the French articles are problematic for me.

[time passes]

I have posted a GOOGLE TRANSLATION in the Library.

roscoe · « **Reply #38 on:** October 27, 2011, 09:27:19 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

The whole theory of Mrs Martinez rests on 2 main fallacies.

1-- That the Capricana Institute( attended by Rampolla in the 19th Century) was a modernist breeding grounds and 2-- the modernism of Della Chiesa is somehow decended from Rampolla because of their close relationship.

Mrs Martinez then goes after Pius XII as a modernist. While it is true that he was a friend of Rampolla, I do not believe that he is part of some plot decended from Della Chiesa.

I still would like to know the opinion of Fr Remy especially as he seems to be involved with Card Siri. I find this to be quite interesting.

Diego · « **Reply #39 on:** October 27, 2011, 11:27:04 PM »

In the Library section I have also posted Cardinal Rampolla Was a Freemason? By the Abbe Francesco Ricossa.