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Offline Dingbat

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Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2022, 09:20:21 PM »
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  • What are you babbling about?
    Looks like you either converted another poster to the FE cause, or else he's making fun of you guys lol

    I think he's a millennial btw, if that explains it better :laugh1:


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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #16 on: January 11, 2022, 09:37:27 PM »
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  • So within that narrow layer of the atmosphere there would have to be a continual gradient of increasing density to have the refraction/bending take place in such a way as to exactly follow the curvature.

    But this is exactly what one would expect to observe if the density-gradient were caused by altitude. On a globe Earth, the altitude of my eye level would increase with distance in direct proportion to the curvature of the Earth, as that is what would cause the increase in altitude. This would also apply bi-directionally as so too would the change in altitude due to curvature.



    I wouldn't have to look up or down to be staring from denser air to thinner air, since altitude would increase with distance even as I looked directly straight ahead. And as we know, lighter things rise up through denser things, so at higher altitudes we'd be seeing less dense air. And so, along the x-axis directly ahead of me, I would be witnessing the light bend as it transfers from denser to lighter mediums.


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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #17 on: January 12, 2022, 06:21:33 AM »
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  • But this is exactly what one would expect to observe if the density-gradient were caused by altitude.

    I've already said a couple times that altitude was not a consideration with the Dr. John D laser test, nor for his Black Swan video, since everything was lined up on the same plane.  There was no change of altitude between the turbines, nor with the two lasers on the same plane in two directions.

    If one laser was experiencing gradually increasing air density in one direction to cause refraction, then the other laser would have experienced a gradually decreasing air density in the opposite direction.  Consequently if one of the lasers were refracted down (perfectly in line with the earth's curvature), then the other one would have been refracted up.  BOTH lasers could not have been viewed at the same time.  This experiment conclusively rules out refraction.

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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #18 on: January 12, 2022, 06:24:23 AM »
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  • Looks like you either converted another poster to the FE cause, or else he's making fun of you guys lol

    I think he's a millennial btw, if that explains it better :laugh1:

    I wouldn't decipher that one way or another.

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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #19 on: January 12, 2022, 06:39:47 AM »
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  • Globers constantly throw out two dei ex machina to save the Globe Earth from Flat Earth observations:  refraction and gravity.  But they never provide the numbers or do the math, etc.

    Basically, the psychological mechanism at work here is that they accept these explanations by way of confirmation bias.  They simply don't want to believe that the earth is flat, so they latch onto these without any proof whatsoever.

    Some pictures show things cut off by a water line, whereas with many pictures, you can see all the way through it.  One or the other of these does not reflect reality and the geometric curvature.  FEs do the math, take the temperature/humidity readings, etc.  Globe Earthers NEVER do that.  Like Dankward here, they throw out one picture and say:  "ha, proof" while ignoring the observations that contradict their position.  That's simply dishonest and is done by way of confirmation bias.  They'll throw out "refraction" and "atmospheric conditions" (unproven of course) as explanation for the FE pictures, but then magically those same forces cannot be in play with their pictures.  Ah, when the pictures indicate globe, there clearly was NO refraction.  See how this works?  They've been brainwashed, and Flat Earth causes them psychological pain, so there's confirmation bias mechanism at play here.

    So Dankward's picture of the wind farm.  Where's the observer?  How far away are the turbines?  What were the wave heights? (John D records all these for his long, admittedly dry, videos.)  Were the "taller" turbines much closer than the "shorter" ones in the picture?  If the shorter ones were miles away and the taller ones much closer, then that would be expected.  Was there rough water (with wind) causing wave heights that would block the view?  There's zero data there.  Why don't globers do the experiments and collect the data like the FEs do?  Answer is simple.  They don't really want to know, so they're not interested in actually doing scientific observations.

    Again, it would be very simple to disprove Flat Earth once and for all.  Simply take a plane and "circuмnavigate" Antarctica.  Get a few FEs on board to make sure there's no trickery, and have observers on the "other side" of the continent.  Let those on board observe that the edge of the "continent" remains on the same side of the plane the entire time.  Its circuмference is allegedly about 9800 miles, which many planes can do without refueling.  Entire flight should take a bit under 20 hours.  It should appear on the other side to the observers about 10 hours in, and then go back to where it started in under 20 hours.  It would be that simple.

    It's the same thing with Michelson-Morley.  Allegedly we can send equipment to the moon.  NASA should be able to send a Michelson-Morley apparatus to the moon.  If motion is detected by the apparatus, then that would be proof that the earth is motionless.  Sungenis pointd this out during his video.  But they don't WANT to believe that the earth is motionless, so instead they invent bizarre theories to explain away the results.  Airy's Failure also conclusively proved that the earth remains still while the stars move in relation to it.


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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #20 on: January 12, 2022, 07:04:00 AM »
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  • This should be good.  Due out 02/22/2022.



    I can't find Trailer #1.  It's impossible to find even this thing (because, you know, it's a psyop that they're promoting).  I just happened to run across this one by accident.

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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #21 on: January 13, 2022, 08:19:54 AM »
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  • I've already said a couple times that altitude was not a consideration with the Dr. John D laser test, nor for his Black Swan video, since everything was lined up on the same plane.  There was no change of altitude between the turbines, nor with the two lasers on the same plane in two directions.

    If one laser was experiencing gradually increasing air density in one direction to cause refraction, then the other laser would have experienced a gradually decreasing air density in the opposite direction.  Consequently if one of the lasers were refracted down (perfectly in line with the earth's curvature), then the other one would have been refracted up.  BOTH lasers could not have been viewed at the same time.  This experiment conclusively rules out refraction.
    And I've already shown how looking off in a straight line would necessarily mean looking at an altitude-gradient in a globe model.

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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #22 on: January 13, 2022, 11:59:20 AM »
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  • And I've already shown how looking off in a straight line would necessarily mean looking at an altitude-gradient in a globe model.
    Although not an exact replication of the layers in the atmosphere, this demonstrates how light can travel through the density layers of Earth's atmosphere:


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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #23 on: January 13, 2022, 08:40:37 PM »
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  • Globers constantly throw out two dei ex machina to save the Globe Earth from Flat Earth observations:  refraction and gravity.  But they never provide the numbers or do the math, etc.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment

    There have been experiments done. I don't have access to their papers though.

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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #24 on: January 13, 2022, 09:25:59 PM »
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  • Although not an exact replication of the layers in the atmosphere, this demonstrates how light can travel through the density layers of Earth's atmos

    No, it doesn't.  For the FOURTH time now, he's shooting the laser through deliberately created layers of sugar, and that's the equivalent of bouncing it through multiple layers of atmosphere, not through the same layer 1.5 meters above sea level.  That's why he puts the laser way down beneath the globe, so that it can cross through multiple levels of of the sugar mixture.  Nothing but lies and deceptions from the globers.

    With Dr. John D's laser experiment, you'd have to have constantly increasing density gradients about 1.5 meters above sea level ... in BOTH directions, which simply isn't possible.

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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #25 on: January 13, 2022, 09:55:50 PM »
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  • Nothing but lies and deceptions from the globers.
    Why don't you make this your signature already? :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:


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    Re: Dr. John D destroys Globe Earth
    « Reply #26 on: January 15, 2022, 08:31:16 PM »
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  • No, it doesn't.  For the FOURTH time now, he's shooting the laser through deliberately created layers of sugar, and that's the equivalent of bouncing it through multiple layers of atmosphere, not through the same layer 1.5 meters above sea level.  That's why he puts the laser way down beneath the globe, so that it can cross through multiple levels of of the sugar mixture.  Nothing but lies and deceptions from the globers.

    With Dr. John D's laser experiment, you'd have to have constantly increasing density gradients about 1.5 meters above sea level ... in BOTH directions, which simply isn't possible.
    No deception. It's even better conditions for light to bend on Earth than the laser test in sugar water. Any beam of light that starts to travel in a straight line (a tangent to the surface) will bend towards the denser layer of atmosphere below it, so it will follow a downwards path. Makes sense, doesn't it? It's called terrestrial refraction and is derived from Snell's law of light bending towards the denser medium, so it effectively increases Earth's radius as we observe it - that's how the Blackswan etc. are possible.




    The effective radius increases the larger k gets. Details see here.