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Offline Traditional Guy 20

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Did World War II have to happen?
« on: August 31, 2012, 01:47:10 PM »
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  • I was meaning to post this tomorrow but decided to go ahead and post this today. Tomorrow is the 73rd anniversary of the German army crossing into Poland, causing Britain to declare war on September 3rd. The last words in this column are definitely true. World War II: the war that will be a mortal blow to our civilization.

    "On Sept. 1, 1939, 70 years ago, the German Army crossed the Polish frontier. On Sept. 3, Britain declared war.

    Six years later, 50 million Christians and Jєωs had perished. Britain was broken and bankrupt, Germany a smoldering ruin. Europe had served as the site of the most murderous combat known to man, and civilians had suffered worse horrors than the soldiers.

    By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million Christians were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history: the Bolshevik regime of the greatest terrorist of them all, Joseph Stalin."



    "The Sudeten Germans were returned to German rule, as they wished. Poland had annexed the tiny disputed region of Teschen, where thousands of Poles lived. Hungary’s ancestral lands in the south of Slovakia had been returned to her. The Slovaks had their full independence guaranteed by Germany. As for the Czechs, they came to Berlin for the same deal as the Slovaks, but Hitler insisted they accept a protectorate.

    Now one may despise what was done, but how did this partition of Czechoslovakia manifest a Hitlerian drive for world conquest?

    Comes the reply: If Britain had not given the war guarantee and gone to war, after Czechoslovakia would have come Poland’s turn, then Russia’s, then France’s, then Britain’s, then the United States."



    "Indeed, why would he want war when, by 1939, he was surrounded by allied, friendly, or neutral neighbors, save France? And he had written off Alsace, because reconquering Alsace meant war with France, and that meant war with Britain, whose empire he admired and whom he had always sought as an ally.

    As of March 1939, Hitler did not even have a border with Russia. How then could he invade Russia?

    Winston Churchill was right when he called it 'The Unnecessary War' – the war that may yet prove the mortal blow to our civilization."

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan115.html






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    « Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 02:28:01 PM »
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  • One thing that I find sickening is all of the talk one hears about "the good war", & how, even if the others before & since were unjust, this one was indeed absolutely necessary, because after all, all of the Axis soldiers were villains of the blackest hue, whilst all of the Allies were of an angelic countenance beyond compare.....In a way it was necessary, necessary for world Jєωry to finish the job in murdering off what little remained of Christendom.

     It seems probable that if the Axis had gained the victory, that the anti-Christian elements in the German government would have been overcome after the war by a united Europe that would have been mostly Catholic, rather like Mussolini who started as an anti-clerical & ended as a great supporter & protector of the Church.

     Fascism is now used mostly in a pejorative sense, so & so is a fascist &c.,, but I think it had many good points. It approached much nearer to the Distributist idea than either side of the Jєωιѕн coin of communism/capitalism, both of which concentrate the ownership of the means of production & thus power over society at large into the hands of a Jєωιѕн clique.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 02:44:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Cuthbert
    One thing that I find sickening is all of the talk one hears about "the good war", .


    Good as the idea is America=never does anything bad and is always just.because....well, we say so.......and destroy oppositional voices......
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 02:45:36 PM »
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  • wow, up to 4 hides,started today with 2   :shocked: :laugh1:
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 03:19:25 PM »
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  • You've got that right Belloc, if Germans, Russians, what have you, massacre an entire village, or perpetrate some other atrocity, they deserve to be punished with the utmost severity (which I don't deny, evil is evil, regardless of who is carrying it out), but if the U.S. does the exact same thing, killing hundreds of people at a wedding in Afghanistan, because a bogeyman, oh I mean "terrorist" was supposedly there, well then, that's perfectly all right. All of the ball-game watching hooligans that like to scream "yeah!!!! get them dirty A-rabs" will be singing a different tune when their loving government starts doing to them, what they've been doing to the unfortunates in other countries.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 05:07:00 PM »
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  • Quote from: Cuthbert
    One thing that I find sickening is all of the talk one hears about "the good war", & how, even if the others before & since were unjust, this one was indeed absolutely necessary, because after all, all of the Axis soldiers were villains of the blackest hue, whilst all of the Allies were of an angelic countenance beyond compare.....In a way it was necessary, necessary for world Jєωry to finish the job in murdering off what little remained of Christendom.

     It seems probable that if the Axis had gained the victory, that the anti-Christian elements in the German government would have been overcome after the war by a united Europe that would have been mostly Catholic, rather like Mussolini who started as an anti-clerical & ended as a great supporter & protector of the Church.

     Fascism is now used mostly in a pejorative sense, so & so is a fascist &c.,, but I think it had many good points. It approached much nearer to the Distributist idea than either side of the Jєωιѕн coin of communism/capitalism, both of which concentrate the ownership of the means of production & thus power over society at large into the hands of a Jєωιѕн clique.


    Ha yes to our cultural elites World War II is always the "good war" and no matter the atrocities committed, our hearts were "pure" and our enemy was evil. According to our cultural elites there has never been a war of moral clarity like our war against fascism. You know despite all of the hysteria about fascism and nαzιsm these days it was Communism that Hollywood succuмbed to by the late 1930's, because of Communism's immense appeal to throw off the yoke of European empires and promised a great life here on earth.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 05:15:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: Cuthbert
    You've got that right Belloc, if Germans, Russians, what have you, massacre an entire village, or perpetrate some other atrocity, they deserve to be punished with the utmost severity (which I don't deny, evil is evil, regardless of who is carrying it out), but if the U.S. does the exact same thing, killing hundreds of people at a wedding in Afghanistan, because a bogeyman, oh I mean "terrorist" was supposedly there, well then, that's perfectly all right. All of the ball-game watching hooligans that like to scream "yeah!!!! get them dirty A-rabs" will be singing a different tune when their loving government starts doing to them, what they've been doing to the unfortunates in other countries.


    Well I think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been utter castrophes and I never supported them but if you want to talk about some terrorism from World War II well...

    The French maquis and Italian partisans committed terrorism; when Churchill ordered his agents to "set Europe ablaze" which meant the assasination of German pilots and military officers, execution of collaborators, and bombing of buildings, that was terrorism; the firebombing of Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo was terrorism; the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was terrorism.

    World War II really reverted Western Man back to methods of barbarism that earlier generations would have recoiled in horror over and Churchill was responsible for that.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 05:30:02 PM »
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  • Yes, in regard to the atomic bombings, it's certainly no coincidence that they targeted the Catholic regions of Japan over & against other areas, that were militarily speaking, more important. Besides that, from what I've read the Japanese government had been willing to surrender a good while before the bombs were dropped.

    I guess they just couldn't resist testing their new weapon on those whom they hated most (Catholics). The occultism practised by high-level masons would also indicate that these aerial masscres were likely some sort of human sacrifice, the more they murdered, the more power the devil would give them.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 05:36:49 PM »
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  • Another thing I find ironic: Chamberlain is considered naive, evil, and a fool for trying to negotiate with Hitler in Munich, but FDR and Churchill signed over all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany to Stalin, and yet they supposedly had 'statesmanlike wisdom.' Speaking of the Russians committing massacres...it is well known that the Soviets ethnically cleansed 15 million Germans from their homeland and raped and murdered 2 million.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 05:42:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: Cuthbert
    Yes, in regard to the atomic bombings, it's certainly no coincidence that they targeted the Catholic regions of Japan over & against other areas, that were militarily speaking, more important. Besides that, from what I've read the Japanese government had been willing to surrender a good while before the bombs were dropped.

    I guess they just couldn't resist testing their new weapon on those whom they hated most (Catholics). The occultism practised by high-level masons would also indicate that these aerial masscres were likely some sort of human sacrifice, the more they murdered, the more power the devil would give them.


    Well the "cause" they always try to justify dropping the bombs is that had we not, half a million Americans would have died in an invasion of Japan and so it was morally okay to drop the bombs. Also what the war propaganda did was label the Japenese as bestial and subhuman and how they murdered wounded American soldiers and Marines in cold blood.

    I am reminded of Curtis LeMay's boasting, "We baked more people that night of March 9-10 than all who went up in smoke at Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined!" I'm sorry but no matter the barbarity of the Japense Empire or the righteousness of our cause we had no moral right to kill like that.

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    « Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 06:20:59 PM »
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  • And so in regards to strategy the Allies (Britain and America) could stand as equals among Ghenghis Khan, Tamerlane, Sennacherib, and the Red Army.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 08:38:39 PM »
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    wow, up to 4 hides,started today with 2   :shocked: :laugh1:


    Gee, I only have two, and I am WAY more annoying than you are.   :smile:
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    « Reply #12 on: September 01, 2012, 01:38:38 AM »
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  • It was a completely unnecessary war and, no matter how you look at it, this war pitted evil against evil.  


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    « Reply #13 on: September 01, 2012, 02:28:37 AM »
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    Gee, I only have two, and I am WAY more annoying than you are.   :smile:


    Hey why are you guys complaining? I have 8 and am the most despised poster on this forum if we count upvotes vs. downvotes. :smile:

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    « Reply #14 on: September 01, 2012, 02:32:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    It was a completely unnecessary war and, no matter how you look at it, this war pitted evil against evil.


    Yeah I find it funny (not really) that Churchill said how "nαzι tyranny" and "Prussian militarism" was "the root cause of all of our evils" and then several years later would call for arming those same Germans who he castigated as "Huns" to defend Western civilization. Stalin always had in mind what Europe would look like after the war. Churchill seemed not to think too hardly or deep about it if Germany, Europe's ancient barrier to Oriental barbarism and despotism, was taken out.