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Offline cassini

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Did Benedict XVI claim recently to still have 'the spiritual authority' of the papacy? A friend said he did and that Francis is going mad. Anyone know or hear about this?


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Just get over it already. Papa Francis is the pope.


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Did Benedict XVI claim recently to still have 'the spiritual authority' of the papacy? A friend said he did and that Francis is going mad. Anyone know or hear about this?
I'm not sure about that. But, what I do know is that Benedict XVI is making Francis go crazy. Mainly because Pope Benedict linked gαy marriage and abortion to the Antichrist completely going against Pope Francis. Pope Benedict has also made Francis go mad with his conservatism on celibacy and divorce. It's mainly a thing where Benedict XVI has been silenced. But, Benedict is fighting back by trying to stop Pope Francis's liberal agenda.
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Just get over it already. Papa Francis is the pope.
Ok Karen. I wonder what you think of the Second Vatican Council then? You must love Pope Francis's views on gαy marriage, Trump, China, flip-flopping on abortion, etc.
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Did Benedict XVI claim recently to still have 'the spiritual authority' of the papacy? A friend said he did and that Francis is going mad. Anyone know or hear about this?
Yes, I believe you are referring to news that Dr. Mazza brought up in his interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall. Which he discusses his theory here:
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/05/27/guest-post-dr-edmund-mazzas-position-paper-on-the-invalidity-of-pope-benedicts-resignation/

Excerpts from the article:

But how can Benedict acknowledge his successor as bishop of Rome and yet still cling to the Petrine munus? After all, as Weigel says: “The Petrine Office is not divisible in any fashion, nor can it be a dyarchy in which one exercises the mission of governance and another exercises a mission of prayer.”

Indeed, Benedict has not created a dyarchy of two “popes,” in the sense of two bishops of Rome. For it is true, a see cannot have two bishops and the Petrine munus is not divisible either. Benedict has kept it for himself. Which is why in his declaration he renounced the “ministry” and not the munus. And why Gänswein, himself, draws our attention to that word.

And here we come to it at last: the ultimate solution to the “Emeritus enigma” is not to conclude that Benedict has divided the Petrine munus—but that he has divided the Petrine munus from the episcopal See of Rome!

Now, it is of Faith that Christ made St. Peter an Apostle and that he conferred on him the Keys of the Primacy—but nowhere is it recorded in Scripture that Christ made him bishop of Rome. Peter made Peter bishop of Antioch and then Peter made Peter bishop of Rome. As De Mattei once wrote: “He is bishop of Rome in that he is pope, and not pope in that he is bishop of Rome.”

Being, in fact, Pope, Benedict had/has by his munus, all the authority of Peter, so what did he do on February 28, 2013? It seems he separated Peter from the See of Rome: “The papal ministry is therefore no longer what it was before. It is and remains the foundation of the Catholic Church; and yet it is a foundation which Benedict XVI has profoundly and permanently transformed…” If true, Benedict still retains his Primacy—but is only a former bishop of Rome. Conversely, Pope Francis would now occupy the chair—but would not be the Vicar of Christ (something of which he, himself, is seemingly unashamed to boast).


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Ok Karen. I wonder what you think of the Second Vatican Council then? You must love Pope Francis's views on gαy marriage, Trump, China, flip-flopping on abortion, etc.

Papa Francis can't error because he's pope. The gates of hell can't prevail against the Church. Jesus gave the pope the keys to heaven.

You hate real love, charity, togetherness, consciousness, and positive vibrations, and you're sounding like a misogynist.

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Today's Catholic Church is a beautiful manifestation of the mysteries of God through continuity of the Church. The truth is further revealed to us. Papa Francis is the best pope to date. He's such a blessing.

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Papa Francis can't error because he's pope. The gates of hell can't prevail against the Church. Jesus gave the pope the keys to heaven.

You hate real love, charity, togetherness, consciousness, and positive vibrations, and you're sounding like a misogynist.
You sound like a flaming heretic. Be gone demon.
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Papa Francis can't error because he's pope. The gates of hell can't prevail against the Church. Jesus gave the pope the keys to heaven.

You hate real love, charity, togetherness, consciousness, and positive vibrations, and you're sounding like a misogynist.
I guess you haven't read about Our Lady of La Salette

http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/salette3.htm

Then again you don't read much do you? Go back to eating kale and watching Rachel Maddow on MSNBC you feminαzι.
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Today's Catholic Church is a beautiful manifestation of the mysteries of God through continuity of the Church. The truth is further revealed to us. Papa Francis is the best pope to date. He's such a blessing.

If you think Pope Francis is the best pope to date, you might need to get your head checked. You are a disgrace to Traditionalism by saying that and your also an idiot.
If somebody wants to shoot me from a window with a rifle, Nobody can stop it, so why worry about it? - John F. Kennedy, The Morning of November 22nd, 1963.

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If you think Pope Francis is the best pope to date, you might need to get your head checked. You are a disgrace to Traditionalism by saying that and your also an idiot.
Given the name and the avatar, Karen Yapper is a parody account.  This is somebody who is making fun of a certain stereotype of women.  The poster is a man who believes the opposite of everything posted under this name.  Those of us who have been around long enough recognize the characteristics of a banned member who used the name Croix de Fer.  He keeps coming back here with new accounts.

Since the name "Karen Yapper" does not appear in the member list of the forum, I suspect that the forum owner, Matthew, has already noticed this and gotten rid  "Karen".


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You sound like a flaming heretic. Be gone demon.

Oh, that's just good old Croix having some fun.  He's LARPing and trolling the forum, having taken on the identity of a liberal Novus Ordo Jєωιѕн woman, and making comments that he believes would characterize the mindset of such a one.  His comments are sarcastic/satirical.

[EDIT:  You beat me to it, Jayne]

Yes, looks like Matthew banned him.

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Oh, that's just good old Croix having some fun.  He's LARPing and trolling the forum, having taken on the identity of a liberal Novus Ordo Jєωιѕн woman, and making comments that he believes would characterize the mindset of such a one.  His comments are sarcastic/satirical.
He is being more entertaining that usual this time.

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He is being more entertaining that usual this time.

Yes, he was actually funny and amusing this time around.

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Oh, that's just good old Croix having some fun.  He's LARPing and trolling the forum, having taken on the identity of a liberal Novus Ordo Jєωιѕн woman, and making comments that he believes would characterize the mindset of such a one.  His comments are sarcastic/satirical.

[EDIT:  You beat me to it, Jayne]

Yes, looks like Matthew banned him.

That was fun. I would love to see Croix come back as a satanist woman who is part of the Communist Party of the USA. I would have a blast with that. But, then at the same time. I am glad to hear that it looks like Karen was banned. May she or HE I mean rest in peace unless we are wrong.  :laugh1:
If somebody wants to shoot me from a window with a rifle, Nobody can stop it, so why worry about it? - John F. Kennedy, The Morning of November 22nd, 1963.