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Offline Matthew

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Death is not the ultimate evil - part of life
« on: April 09, 2020, 04:08:05 PM »
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    • I know that on the one hand "even one death isn't worth 100 million dollars".
    Nevertheless, we all have to die sometime! We are mortal, and death is a natural part of life on this earth.

    Keeping that in mind --

    You have to ADD the lives saved due to the shutdown and THEN subtract the deaths from COVID/flu/mixed causes/whatever.

    Therefore: total deaths per week seems to be the most objective measure of how we're doing -- how many NET LIVES ARE BEING SAVED OR LOST.

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    Re: Death is not the ultimate evil - part of life
    « Reply #1 on: April 09, 2020, 04:33:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on April 09, 2020, 04:08:05 PM
    I know that on the one hand "even one death isn't worth 100 million dollars".
    Nevertheless, we all have to die sometime! We are mortal, and death is a natural part of life on this earth.

    Keeping that in mind --

    You have to ADD the lives saved due to the shutdown and THEN subtract the deaths from COVID/flu/mixed causes/whatever.

    Therefore: total deaths per week seems to be the most objective measure of how we're doing -- how many NET LIVES ARE BEING SAVED OR LOST.
    I know you know this, but money isn't just money either.  I know plenty of people, me included, that have said stuff about being concerned about "the economy."  Not one of us is concerned about the wealth of billionaires, corporate CEOs, or anything like that, but the livelihoods of regular people.

    Supporting the shutdown despite the cost is one thing, but ignoring it is insane
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    Re: Death is not the ultimate evil - part of life
    « Reply #2 on: April 09, 2020, 04:42:10 PM »
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    • Yeah, it looks like we are plateauing this week.  Good news!  Hopefully we can start opening things up soon. But I don’t think it’s going back to normal any time soon.  I expect everyone will be social distancing until we have herd immunity.  
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    Re: Death is not the ultimate evil - part of life
    « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2020, 05:05:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Clemens Maria on April 09, 2020, 04:42:10 PM
    Yeah, it looks like we are plateauing this week.  Good news!  Hopefully we can start opening things up soon. But I don’t think it’s going back to normal any time soon.  I expect everyone will be social distancing until we have herd immunity.  


    Plateauing?

    Quote from: dictionary.cambridge.org
    Definition plateauing: 1. present participle of plateau 2. to reach a particular level and then stay the same


    Look at the graph again! Mortality numbers in the U.S.A. in the first ten weeks of 2020 are much lower than in each of the past five years:



    Why do you use the term "plateauing"?

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    Re: Death is not the ultimate evil - part of life
    « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2020, 05:17:46 PM »
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    • Because although deaths attributed to the virus are increasing, they are increasing at a slower rate.  That indicates the beginning of a plateau followed by a decrease.  
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    Re: Death is not the ultimate evil - part of life
    « Reply #5 on: April 09, 2020, 10:36:29 PM »
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    • For anyone interested in seeing a list of weeks for 2020:

    https://www.epochconverter.com/weeks/2020
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