It can also be said that when these types say ‘nature’ its more or so a codeword for Satan? They talk about it often like a kind of ‘powerful force’ that has dominion when they speak, similar to a ‘deity’.
The devil wants mankind to focus on the material first, competing/squabbling, selfish interests and turn their backs on God/Jesus. It’s said by some people that Satan has dominion over much of the material world?
Some legimitate Satanists themselves(the ones who believe in and worship him) see him as the ‘true god’ incharge of nature and the demons as ‘slandered forces of nature’.
That is the paradox of Christianity.
It wants to make mankind anew, molded in the image of Jesus.
Therefore it denies its own foundations in nature, amplifying some abilities and suppressing others.
Yet Christians remain part of the animal kingdom, and their religion is at odds with their own being.
To be a successful Christian who never sins, you would need a perspective of a spiritual non material being.
Yet christians in life will never accomplish such a transcendental perspective. They will only "Taste" of it at most.
God will be ever Elusive, as will Peace, as will contentment.
Anyone who says they reached transcendence is mistaken. It is impossible while you are still flesh.
You still have the bias and vested interest of a primitive animal.
You have the ability to abstract think, due to 3 parts of the brain dedicated to abstract reasoning, and from these come prayers and meditation. But the entirety of the rest of you is devoted to your urges and desires.
Even when you pray you are "Asking" for things you desire, thus revealing you are a primitive animal.
An animal who fools themselves into thinking they are spiritual, but they only taste of spirituality.
They know it exists as a concept, but they can never personify it.
Try as they will to wrap their minds around perfection, it will always elude them.
They are trying to put a camel through a needle head.