3 of my responses didn't post ! Arghhhh....
Drosten created his own version of Mullis' PCR and named it after himself (Probably to keep people from researching Cary Mullis who conveniently died in October2019)

Stop writing like you're some kind of authority.  You're just parroting back stuff you've found on the internet.  There's absolutely no reason to believe they wouldn't have done both, create the spike protein and also released it in nature attached to a cσɾσnαvιɾυs.  I love it how you throw technical terms around as if you had the foggiest idea of what they actually mean.

Dear Lad- as you say, I am no microbiologist. but I have placed 150 central line catheters in CÖVÌD patients over the past year. It's a surgical procedure that specially trained nurses can do.
This does not make me an expert but it did give me a birds eye view of CÖVÌD symptomatology   exhibited by the elderly in nursing homes as opposed to the general ER hospital variety. If you are inclined to check, I was speaking about clotting  issues on this forum in these patients from March2020, before it ever hit the radar or any media , and when most experts were only concerned about respiratory symptoms and complications. I Knew from 40 years experience in my field that I had never seen a contagion or virus act like this. One patient was dying from catatonia, stroke from clotting and failure to thrive in one bed, and the person in the next bed (same room) was fine. One nursing home was hit with 50 CÖVÌD deaths and the nursing home down the street was completely free of it. No- it wasn't because one was more hygienic than the other. The same ancillary staffs were travelling between facilities and their exposure rate was the same. I could only surmise that the vector was not transmissible as a normal pathogen would be. ( droplet, tactile, airborne) I am 64 years old with many risk factors and I didn't get a sniffle, even when coughed on or bled upon. Blessed? Yes of course but I don't  think I was exempt. My initial suspicion as many had at the time was that it  was some kind of binary 5G which I couldn't really couldn't be proved, but fit quite nicely. I've finally come to my personal conclusion that the spike protein was delivered earlier; probably in the flu ναccιnє of 2019 to the elderly in nursing homes in the hotspots I mentioned before. The community pathogen did not have the hallmark clotting symptoms before the CÖVÌD ναccιnє was in full effect in late 2020. I was able to make the relationship between the clotting of the elderly in nursing homes at the outbreak in Feb/March 2020 and the CÖVÌD ναccιnє symptoms we are seeing today.  I suspect that the CÖVÌD disease originated with the spike protein spread by selected flu ναccιnє lots, both at the beginning of the "pandemic" and now with the CÖVÌD vaxx. Can I prove anything? No ,but you can't either.  I can only observe, but I can with good reason, discount much of what is being proposed with more of a foundation than most. Truthfully as a "grunt" in the field with direct patient contact and invasive intervention,  I saw much more clinical evidence than most doctors experience, not because I am as educated as a doctor, but just because doctors do not have ( and honestly do not want) the patient contact that I was afforded. Yes, I also looked as deeply as I could on the internet to corroborate what I was seeing. I'm sorry you don't like my language, but it's the way I speak about these subjects. I've never challenged your language about your erudite church knowledge, or stated you learned it all on the internet ( youtube?) although you are not a Bishop.
Sorry to offend you, bud

What a mess. I'll try to summarize my thoughts and questions. We've got some very interesting points in this thread!


If the SARS-CoV-2 virus doesn't exist:

• all the test are false, all the sick and dead are misattributed
• we were lied to about the pandemic at large
• then what have scientists been looking at ("down their microscopes") all these months?
• what did doctors and nurses like @josefamendez deal with all this time, was it just common flu viruses coupled with doctors hysteria?
• how do they create "waves" in different countries (look at India, Brazil, etc.), same as the previous point?
• why is there a correlation between positive tests and sick people (but only in some cases, as the overhwelming majority of positively tested people are asymptomatic)?
• I know of several reputable microbiologists who doubt the official narrative but don't claim that there's no SARS-CoV-2 (like Dr. Bhakdi)
• the genetic sequence in the "vaccines" had to be invented from thin air (or worse)
• this would explain why the common flu cases did disappear completely (cases are reattributed)
• if the globalists' goal was to inject every human with aborted baby cell fragments as some kind of satanic ritual, they indeed wouldn't need an actual virus if their means of spreading mass hysteria work sufficiently


If the SARS-CoV-2 virus does exist:

• all the data indicates against a global pandemic with a dangerous, deadly virus
• death rates did not increase substantially, survival rate is very high (>99%, even if we assume tests and diagnostics to be flawed)
• we were lied to about the virus and it's effects
• why did the flu still "disappear"? The best explanation is that the tests do not correctly diagnose SARS-CoV-2 at all (hence also the large amount of asymptomatic "cases")
• was the virus every isolated? (unclear)
• what genetic sequence did the vaccine manufacturers base their mRNA instructions upon? (depends on the point above)
• is it a bioweapon? Depends on the definition. Given all the lies, it is likely that the virus was created in a lab (be it China or elsewhere), perhaps based on other viruses.
  Either way it is not very dangerous.


In conclusion:

It doesn't matter that much if the SARS-CoV-2 virus actually exists, what matters is that the whole agenda is evil. We were and are lied to from start to finish. Why would our "health experts" want to push a vaccine to age groups that are not at risk at all? Small children being vaccinated, even though multiple countries are starting to warn against it? Come on. So what we know apart from all speculation is that the elites want to coerce everyone to get vaccinated for the wrong reasons and with a harmful vaccine. They obivously want to retain control, so a dangerous virus is not a good fit for that. Administering vaccines works much better to keep control over people, using the media to induce fear as they please. I guess we'll see further "pandemics" and more "vaccinations" in the future. With that and with what we know about the vaccine: Avoid it! Don't believe the MSM lies! Resist as much as you can.

May God help us.

Cheers.

 Either way it is not very dangerous.

Certainly the virus is itself not dangerous, as proven by the Salk study, but is likely just a carrier for the spikes.  Even the spikes are not IMMEDIATELY very dangerous, since most people recover and MOST people who took the vax didn't have serious reactions.

But this might be what Alex Jones refers to as a "slow kill" weapon ... with some intended long-term effects (autoimmune problems, prion disease, early-onset dementia, and STERILITY ... among many possible other effects).  I mean, they couldn't get away with the vax immediately causing 90% of those who got it to drop dead.  Their vax program would be halted in its tracks immediately.  I speculate (yes, it's speculation) based on the early mRNA animal studies that the vax is lethal when it's COMBINED with exposure to the real thing.  Based on this speculation, then perhaps the worst adverse responses to the vax were in people who had already been exposed to the virus (with or without knowing it) and THEN if the thing spreads again in the FALL, people will start dropping dead (again, that's what happened in the mRNA animal studies).  They will blame that on a new "variant" (lots of variant propaganda out there) ... and will blame its existence/emergence on the UNvaxxed.  This would justify another lσcкdσωn and FORCED vaccinations.  Boris Johnson at the G7 indicated that their goal is to ναccιnαte the whole world by the end of 2022.  So even though the lσcкdσωns have ceased (in some places) and they're backing down from forced vaccinations ... they're not done with us yet.

Yes , I agree with most everything above. There probably/might have been  a marker (benign carrier) virus for the spike protein. But if there was I would have expected  the clotting symptoms to have been distributed more generally. Spread more like a virus would spread. My only issue with it is that the initial clotting symptoms at the outset of the disease were only found in specific locations or hotspots, which led me to conclude that the delivery method of the spike protein was more precise and controlled and not as random as it would be if it were highly contagious . I still suspect the spike protein has to be spread by injection, not infection.


That's all I've got to say about it.

I am not surprised at this and never have been.  Godless people are going to be dishonest, dishonourable and evil in science, finance, history, marriage, media, education, military.

What do they have to lose?  In their mind there is nothing to fear after death.  Just non existence.

There are no exceptions.  Godless societies are despotic. 

Alaric.  If killing old people is the goal then they have failed.

It has only killed 4 million.  That is in one in 2000 people, assuming all deaths were Covid deaths.  About 100 million die per year of all other causes. Looked at against the overall death statistics across the past 10 years you would struggle to notice excess deaths at all. 

The average age of death is slightly older than the average age of death from all other causes.

Unless the vaccine kills people then Covid-19 is a miserable failure as a population control tool.