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Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2021, 03:15:39 AM »
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  • If I remember correctly there were people on this very forum who thought fake snow was being dropped on Atlanta a few years ago.

    They were convinced by videos of people holding cigarette lighters to snowballs which did not immediately melt and had carbon build up on them.  Exactly the same behaviour as real snow, thanks to sublimation and capillary action.

    Of course there is a virus.  Of course it is new (very probably a work in progress that escaped from a bio-weapon lab).  It just isn't very deadly except to the old and decrepit.

    The world has whipped itself into a collective mania as it has a few times before.  The most recent being Y2K.  It has been exploited politically.  A few countries have looked at it objectively, Sweden, Belarus.   Others did nothing because they were chaotic or distracted.  They did not have huge death tolls.

    The next crisis will bring the same evil idiots out of the woodwork, be it a series of forest fires, earthquakes, an asteroid impact. Climate change will be blamed, man is evil etc.

    What we are seeing is a weak adulterous effeminate world go insane.  I am determined to watch it with my sanity intact.  It is more fun that way. 

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #16 on: June 11, 2021, 03:52:39 AM »
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  • If I remember correctly there were people on this very forum who thought fake snow was being dropped on Atlanta a few years ago.

    They were convinced by videos of people holding cigarette lighters to snowballs which did not immediately melt and had carbon build up on them.  Exactly the same behaviour as real snow, thanks to sublimation and capillary action.

    Of course there is a virus.  Of course it is new (very probably a work in progress that escaped from a bio-weapon lab).  It just isn't very dєαdlу except to the old and decrepit.

    The world has whipped itself into a collective mania as it has a few times before.  The most recent being Y2K.  It has been exploited politically.  A few countries have looked at it objectively, Sweden, Belarus.   Others did nothing because they were chaotic or distracted.  They did not have huge death tolls.

    The next crisis will bring the same evil idiots out of the woodwork, be it a series of forest fires, earthquakes, an asteroid impact. Climate change will be blamed, man is evil etc.

    What we are seeing is a weak adulterous effeminate world go insane.  I am determined to watch it with my sanity intact.  It is more fun that way.
    Have you researched HAARP and weather manipulation? It's been in use since the 1950's.

    It was I who posted the video on fake snow because I was not convinced by the video and asked those here who are more knowledgeable than I if it was fake news.  That's called investigation. It's what smart people do rather than assume they know everything already.

    "Of course there is a virus."  

    Really?  How do you know?  Are you a scientist?  Have you isolated and purified it according to KOCH's postulates?   Have you photographed it?  You provide no evidence.  

    Neither has anyone else other than a computer generated model based on speculation and a computer generated, completely fabricated picture of what they assume it looks like.

    The science isn't settled.  It would be great if people could research the science a bit so we could discuss that rather than pad their confirmation bias and their ego along with it, pooh-poohing those who are bold enough to question the emperor's invisible clothing.

    Science requires humility and curiosity and a willingness to dig and research.
    It's kind of similar to understanding the Catholic Faith.  You go where the truth leads regardless of how unpopular it may be.

    I would suggest researching the work of Stefan Lanka who I referenced above and his German Supreme Court Case.  You said that no qualified virologist questions the "science" of the virus...well you skipped over him in my post above.

    Also the docuмentary, House of Numbers, by Brent Leung is a real eye opener into the lies of the elite scientists of the world.  A young film student travelled the world to interview the top scientists, including nobel prize winners Dr Luc Montaigner, catching him at his lies, and Dr Kerry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test who called out Montaigner.  He also interviews the Perth Group of scientists who called out Montaigner on not meeting the criteria of KOCH's postulates with regards to HIV.  

    I'm am still undecided on this issue but am willing to look at all sides and listen to the various arguments if (and this is important) they are backed by evidence.  
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #17 on: June 11, 2021, 04:07:55 AM »
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  • Yeadon believe the virus exists.  He talked about the virus in many of his tweets.  Not isolating does not translate into the virus does not exist.

    He thinks the virus is a Chinese bioweapon.  So what did they make?  They didn't release pure hype from the lab in Wuhan.

    None of the above are virologists not even close.  Yeadon is a pharmacological expert.  Yeadon believes the virus exists, he just thinks it is not more harmful than flu.

    Surely if the virus does not actually exist there would be a highly qualified virologist somewhere in the world, I would even accept a retired one, who could make a name for him or herself showing us that the entire thing is a headfake.  There isn't one.

    Am I to believe that the experts in the field looking down electron microscopes are looking at nothing at all?  They don't realise this but far less qualified people do.
    If you listen to the interview with Yeadon I posted above (I'll post it again here for you)  he discusses how "nobody has any" virus.  He says it surely must exist but it's strange isn't it that nobody has any and it hasn't been isolated:
    cue it to 30:00
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/KBpiMB2Z73UF/
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #18 on: June 11, 2021, 04:23:50 AM »
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    Not isolating does not translate into the virus does not exist. 
    It's the first step to proving a virus actually does exist.

    Hopefully the image I paste below will show up.  It's from a page I referred to above that you may not have had a chance to read yet.  If it doesn't show up I invite you to go to the link and read it there.  It's a good explanation of why isolating the virus is necessary for identifying it.  I made a tinyurl for you:
    https://tinyurl.com/2vp8f5bp


    Would a sane person mix a patient sample (containing various sources of genetic material and never proven to contain any particular virus) with transfected monkey kidney cells, fetal bovine serum and toxic drugs, then claim that the resulting concoction is “SARS-COV-2 isolate” and ship it off internationally for use in critical research (including vaccine and test development)?
    Because that’s the sort of fraudulent monkey business that’s being passed off as “virus isolation” by research teams around the world.
    Just 1 of many examples is shown below – this is from a study cited by the Australian Department of Health as a paper “which led to the isolation of SARS-CoV-2 in culture“. (Can you spot the oxymoron in that quote?)



    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #19 on: June 11, 2021, 04:31:49 AM »
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  • Here is an interview with Dr Kerry Mullis from the movie House of Numbers. 

    He was a true scientist who didn't just ASSUME that HIV causes AIDS since alllll the top scientists said so.  He actually wanted some proof and couldn't find any!




    He was the inventor of the PCR and made it clear that it was not a "test" and doesn't prove that anyone is sick with anything so wasn't for diagnostic purposes.

    Here is the movie, The Emporer's New Virus, by Brent Leung.

    "The Emperor's New Virus?" is a supplementary follow-up to the award winning docuмentary, House of Numbers. It takes an in-depth look at the scientific evidence surrounding the existence of HIV.  It explains why KOCH's postulates are necessary and how the top world renown scientists lie and lie and lie...


    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #20 on: June 11, 2021, 05:46:18 AM »
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  • There was never an identifiable virus-just a computer generated sequence filling in the blanks of another sequenced particle. It was a PCR pandemic, with  a minimum 96% false positive rate. The other 4% were probably other corona  flu A/B reactive or artifact..
    The cultures were never purified as was shown above, Just retrieved from a respiratory soup of secretions and cultured on contaminated monkey(vero) cells.
    I believe in the spike protein however, and I think lots (as in sections) of flu ναccιnє were intentionally contaminated with the protein via  flu shots in late 2019/2020. Those ναccιnєs went to the nursing homes in Lombardy, NYC, Philly and Wuhan and other high mortality hotspots. Those elderly were dying of severe clotting: just like they are from the current CÖVÌD ναccιnєs. The community CÖVÌD was just Flu A or B .The fake pandemic was created for the ναccιnє.
    The truth is coming out- the Wuhan leak was a diversion although a leak did happen-the ɠƖobaƖısts jumped on the "leak" which was harmless and proceeded to roll out their 10 year prepared plan (Event 201)for total control based on that "happy accident".
    If anyone is interested they should look up Dr Reiner Fullmich, a German lawyer who is suing ALL of the corporations involved.

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #21 on: June 11, 2021, 05:58:23 AM »
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  • It exists and is part of a two-stage bio weapon.

    In the mRNA animal studies years ago, the animals died when they were later exposed to the actual virus.

    That is the plan here.  When there’s another wave of the virus in the Fall, the vaxxed will start to drop and they’ll blame it on a more deadly “variant” which they’ll claim arose due to all the vax refugees.  That’ll lead to another lockdown and support for mandatory vaccination.  This isn’t just going to go away quietly.

    Despite the links from a few hack doctors, I have not seen a single credible microbiologist claim that the virus doesn’t exist, and the most credible anti-vax microbiologists I’ve seen speaking out against the vax all believe that the virus exists.

    Unfortunately, some of the wilder conspiracy theories, including much of what Miser has been regularly pushing here, only serve to discredit the anti-vax movement.

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #22 on: June 11, 2021, 06:02:24 AM »
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  • It’s not unlike when Sydney Powell was spreading all kinds of ridiculous fake election fraud allegations that later discredited the entire movement, stuff like the raid by special forces in Germany that recovered a server where that DoD official was wounded in the exchange ... her big “kraken” that turned her into a laughing stock to this day.

    Watch out for the disinfo.


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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #23 on: June 11, 2021, 08:55:04 AM »
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  • The disinformation is the Covid “virus” . If there is a virus it is Flu A or B . The lethal outbreak in the fall will be due to the overwhelmed immune system from the replicating spike proteins in the vaxxed. This is what I’ve said since the beginning . A lethal virus burns itself out in a vey short period of time as it kills its host. Kind of like ebola. Not disinfo 

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #24 on: June 11, 2021, 10:06:18 AM »
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  • It's not a virus. It's nanobots controlled by AI. Right now they are not too bad but when they turn the switch everyone will die.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #25 on: June 11, 2021, 10:31:44 AM »
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  • The disinformation is the CÖVÌD “virus” . If there is a virus it is Flu A or B .

    Not necessarily.  More than that it's COLD A or COLD B.  If they engineered this spike protein, there's no reason they couldn't have slapped it on a coronavirus.  They've been tinkering with those for years, PRECISELY with the intent of modifying the spike proteins of animal coronaviruses.  From what those who sequenced this thing saw, it did look like something that originated from a bat, and the woman at Wuhan was called "the bat lady" precisely because she was experimenting with bat coronaviruses and trying to make them transmissible to human beings ... by altering the spike proteins.

    There's no reason to believe that they didn't do both:

    1) attach these engineered spike proteins to a coronavirus (allowing it to transmit naturally)

    AND

    2) created a vax to generate the spike proteins

    Then when the two meet in nature, THAT is when you start seeing fireworks.

    There's a plausible hypothesis out there that the people suffering the most adverse reactions to the jab are those who had actually been naturally exposed to the coronavirus already.  And in the animal studies of mRNA vaxes, the animals started dropping dead after they were exposed to the actual coronavirus.
    So the real deadly effect appears to be when the mRNA vax combines with the natural occurrence of the virus.

    Thus far no one has been able to prove how long the mRNA jab continues to have the body producing its own spike proteins ... whether it goes on for life or it stops after a certain time (gets turned off by the body's immune system).


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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #26 on: June 11, 2021, 10:34:17 AM »
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  • The disinformation is the CÖVÌD “virus” . If there is a virus it is Flu A or B . The lethal outbreak in the fall will be due to the overwhelmed immune system from the replicating spike proteins in the vaxxed. This is what I’ve said since the beginning . A lethal virus burns itself out in a vey short period of time as it kills its host. Kind of like ebola. Not disinfo

    I love how everyone speaks authoritatively as if they had degrees in microbiology.  Every anti-vax microbiologist that I've heard from so far believes that the virus exists.

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #27 on: June 11, 2021, 10:36:50 AM »
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  • There was never an identifiable virus-just a computer generated sequence filling in the blanks of another sequenced particle. It was a PCR pandemic, with  a minimum 96% false positive rate. The other 4% were probably other corona  flu A/B reactive or artifact..
    The cultures were never purified as was shown above, Just retrieved from a respiratory soup of secretions and cultured on contaminated monkey(vero) cells.
    I believe in the spike protein however, and I think lots (as in sections) of flu ναccιnє were intentionally contaminated with the protein via  flu shots in late 2019/2020. Those ναccιnєs went to the nursing homes in Lombardy, NYC, Philly and Wuhan and other high mortality hotspots. Those elderly were dying of severe clotting: just like they are from the current CÖVÌD ναccιnєs. The community CÖVÌD was just Flu A or B .The fake pandemic was created for the ναccιnє.
    The truth is coming out- the Wuhan leak was a diversion although a leak did happen-the ɠƖobaƖısts jumped on the "leak" which was harmless and proceeded to roll out their 10 year prepared plan (Event 201)for total control based on that "happy accident".
    If anyone is interested they should look up Dr Reiner Fullmich, a German lawyer who is suing ALL of the corporations involved.

    Stop writing like you're some kind of authority.  You're just parroting back stuff you've found on the internet.  There's absolutely no reason to believe they wouldn't have done both, create the spike protein and also released it in nature attached to a coronavirus.  I love it how you throw technical terms around as if you had the foggiest idea of what they actually mean.

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #28 on: June 11, 2021, 10:38:40 AM »
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  • You can stretch the conspiracy theories out forever until there isn't even a spike protein but only nanobots that can be activated by 5G are in the jabs.

    While it's fine to speculate, people need to stop presenting these speculations and theories without actual evidence as if they were fact.  That's the kind of thing that discredits even the legitimate conspiracy speculation.

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    Re: CÖVÌD Virus doesn't exist - Change my mind
    « Reply #29 on: June 11, 2021, 10:41:46 AM »
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  • It's not a virus. It's nanobots controlled by AI. Right now they are not too bad but when they turn the switch everyone will die.

    I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic.  Possible?  Of course.  Proven?  No one has analyzed a jab and found nanobots in it, so no.  At this point, it's all speculation.

    I'm still troubled by the thought that they would target those people who are compliant.  Those who rushed to get the vax are the ones who are susceptible to brainwashing by the MSM and/or to societal peer pressure to get the vax.  I would thint, rather, that they wouldn't mind keeping the sheep around to be their slave labor and that they would instead target the non-compliant troublemakers.  For all we know, these jabs WILL protect these people from something else they plan to do or to release later on.  Only time will tell.