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Cop shoots and kills black man in routine traffic stop
« on: July 07, 2016, 03:21:28 PM »
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  • Woman streams aftermath of fatal officer-involved shooting

    (CNN)As Philando Castile's head slumps backward while he lies dying next to her, Diamond Reynolds looks directly into the camera and explains that a Minnesota police officer just shot her fiancé four times.

    The nation is, by now, accustomed to grainy cell phone videos of officer-involved shootings, but this footage from Falcon Heights, outside Minneapolis, is something different, more visceral: a woman live-streaming a shooting's aftermath with the police officer a few feet away, his gun still trained on her bloody fiancé.
    "He let the officer know that he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet and the officer just shot him in his arm," Reynolds said as she broadcast the Wednesday evening shooting on Facebook.
    Woman streams graphic video of fiancé shot by police

    Woman streams graphic video of fiancé shot by police 02:38
    Castile, an African-American, was a school nutrition services supervisor who was popular among his colleagues and students, according to his employer.
    He had been pulled over for a busted tail light, Reynolds explained on the Facebook video. He told the officer he was armed and had a concealed carry permit, she said. Her daughter, 4, is in the back seat.
    As she speaks, Castile's wrists are crossed. Blood covers the bottom of his white T-shirt sleeve and a large area around his sternum and left rib cage. Perhaps in shock or agony, he peers emptily upward.
    'You shot four bullets into him, sir'
    Though you can't see the St. Anthony police officer's face, you can hear the agitation in his voice as he tells Reynolds to keep her hands where he can see them.
    Composed, as she remains through much of the video, Reynolds replies, "I will, sir, no worries. I will."
    The officer still sounds distressed as he explains, "I told him not to reach for it. I told him to get his hand off it."
    Moments later, Reynolds pleads with God and then the officer as she realizes Castile won't likely make it.
    Philando Castile's mom: 'We are being hunted'

    Philando Castile's mom: 'We are being hunted' 22:42
    "Please don't tell me this, Lord. Please, Jesus, don't tell me that he's gone. Please don't tell me that he's gone," she said. "Please, officer, don't tell me that you just did this to him. You shot four bullets into him, sir. He was just getting his license and registration, sir."
    She continues pleading outside the car as officers approach her with guns drawn. One orders her to her knees, and the phone begins filming the sky.
    "Please Jesus, no. Please no. Please no, don't let him be gone," Reynolds says before officers place her and her daughter in the back of the police car.
    Later, at Hennepin County Medical Center, her fears were confirmed: Her 32-year-old fiancé was gone.
    Diamond Reynolds: 'I want justice'
    His death came a day after an officer-involved shooting that was filmed by bystanders in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Alton Sterling, 37, died in that shooting, sparking mourning and outrage across the country. It also comes eight months after the police killing of Jamar Clark in Minneapolis, which spurred demonstrations in March when a prosecutor announced that officers involved in Clark's death would not be charged.
    'Devastated'
    Castile's mother told CNN Thursday that he and his sister had stopped by her house earlier Wednesday, and during the visit, they had discussed the dangers of carrying weapons, even though both of them have concealed carry permits.
    "I really don't even want to carry my gun because I'm afraid that they'll shoot me first and then ask questions later," Valerie Castile eerily recalled her daughter saying.
    She learned of the shooting via phone calls from people witnessing the live stream on Facebook, she said. When she and her daughter arrived on the scene, they weren't permitted to speak to Reynolds, she said.
    By the time she arrived at the hospital, the grieving mother said, her son was already dead and authorities wouldn't let her see him or identify him. Police won't let her ID him until Friday, she said.
    I know he didn't antagonize that officer in any way to make him feel like his life was threatened.

    Valerie Castile, mother of Philando Castile

    "Right about now, it's not looking too good because I'm not getting the answers that I'm asking for," she said. "They're telling me that they don't know anything, so I don't know anything."
    'He had a permit to carry'
    "Outraged" by her son's death, Valerie Castile said he was a law-abiding citizen who did nothing wrong. She called her son "legitimate all the way across the board."
    "He had a permit to carry, but with all of that, trying to do the right things and live accordingly by the law, he was killed by the law," she said. "A lot of our African-American men, women and children are being executed by the police and there are no consequences. So, in essence, I feel like it's becoming more and more repetitive. Every day you hear of another black person being shot down, gunned down by the people that are supposed to protect us."
    Philando's uncle, Clarence Castile, said the images of his nephew dying marked the "most horrific thing I've ever seen in my life." He also cast a critical eye on the nation's police.
    "We hear about things like this happening all the time around the United States and the world, people being harmed and abused by people that we're supposed to trust with our lives, people that are supposed to serve and protect us. And they tend to be our executioners and judges and murderers."
    School mourns
    Clarence Castile said that Philando was "so docile and laid back," it's difficult to understand how anyone might perceive him as a threat. The last time the two spoke was in May. They talked about setting up a nest egg for Philando's eventual retirement.
    His mother said, "He worked an honest job five days a week."
    Shooting victim's mom: He was black and in wrong place

    Shooting victim's mom: He was black and in wrong place 02:29
    St. Paul Public Schools issued a statement saying he was not only a valued and widely loved employee, but a product of the school district, having graduated from Central High School in 2001.
    He began working for the school district the following year and was promoted to supervisor two years ago.
    "Colleagues describe him as a team player who maintained great relationships with staff and students alike. He had a cheerful disposition and his colleagues enjoyed working with him. He was quick to greet former coworkers with a smile and hug," the statement said.
    'Black in the wrong place'
    A coworker said Philando Castile was also quiet, respectful and kind.
    "Kids loved him. He was smart, over-qualified," the unnamed coworker said in the school district statement. "I knew him as warm and funny; he called me his 'wing man.' He wore a shirt and tie to his supervisor interview and said his goal was to one day 'sit on the other side of this table.'"
    Valerie Castile said "they took a very good person" when her son was killed, and wondered whether he was simply "black in the wrong place."
    "Everybody that knows my son knows that he is a laid back, quiet individual that works hard every day, pays taxes and comes home and plays video games. That's it," she said. "He's not a gang banger. He's not a thug. He's very respectable. And I know he didn't antagonize that officer in any way to make him feel like his life was threatened."
    An ongoing investigation
    Sgt. Jon Mangseth, interim chief of the St. Anthony police, said two officers were present when the shooting occurred -- a primary officer, who he believes has more than five years of experience, and a backup officer. Having both is standard procedure for the department, which has jurisdiction over Falcon Heights.
    St. Anthony police don't have body cameras, according to office manager Kim Brazil.
    One officer has been placed on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure, Mangseth said at a short news conference early Thursday. No police were injured.
    "We will release the information as we learn it, and we will address concerns as we are faced with them," he said.
    Mangseth said he hadn't seen the video, but he knows about it. The nearly 10-minute video garnered more than 1 million views before it was pulled from Facebook. It was then re-released on the social media platform with a graphic warning.
    MN Governor: 'Justice will be served'

    MN Governor: 'Justice will be served' 02:10
    The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension Assistance is investigating the shooting, Mangseth said. An autopsy was under way Thursday morning at the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office, a spokeswoman said.
    Poll: 1 in 5 African-Americans report 'unfair' dealings with police in last month
    Protests, vigil
    By early Thursday, protesters had begun to gather outside Minnesota governor's residence. A community vigil and march was being organized for Thursday evening, beginning at J.J. Hill Montessori Magnet School in St. Paul.
    Gov. Mark Dayton released a statement saying he extended his condolences to those who knew Castile.
    "I will do everything in my power to help protect the integrity of that investigation, to ensure a proper and just outcome for all involved," he said.
    Speaking earlier in the day at an NAACP press conference, he vowed, "Justice will be served in Minnesota."
    The U.S. Justice Department released a statement saying it "is aware of the incident and is assessing the situation." President Barack Obama is also following the situation and is "deeply disturbed" by the Castile shooting, as well as the Sterling shooting in Baton Rouge, said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.
    White House wants closer ties between communities, police
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    'I'm right here'
    Reynolds narrates the shooting throughout much of the video -- alerting her followers and the viewing public to what was happening.
    She's calm and composed at first; a striking juxtaposition to the officers outside the vehicle.
    Outside Castile's car, Reynolds begins to cry and lose her composure. She wails. Police can also be heard in the background.
    The camera keeps pointing up at the sky, before it goes black while the voices continue.
    Reynolds eventually gets the phone again and begins filming from the back seat of the police car with her little girl.
    She seems calm again, alerting viewers to her location and asking someone to come pick her up.
    "I can't believe they just did this," she says.
    Then she screams, her anguish clear.
    "It's OK," the little girl says. "I'm right here with you."
    'I wanted it to go viral'
    Philando Castile's fiancée: We had our hands in air

    Philando Castile's fiancée: We had our hands in air 03:46
    In fiery remarks to reporters during an impromptu Thursday news conference outside the governor's residence, Reynolds lambasted the St. Anthony police, saying they separated her from her daughter, didn't tell her until 3 a.m. that Castile was dead and didn't take her home until 5 a.m.
    "They took me to jail. They didn't feed us. They didn't give us water," she said. "They put me in a room and separated me from my child. They treated me like a prisoner."
    She and Castile had just left the grocery store when they were pulled over. She cast doubt on the alleged reason for the traffic stop.
    "The police officer stopped us for a busted taillight that wasn't busted," Reynolds said.
    She said the officer then asked for Castile's identification and as he reached into his back pocket, the officer opened fire.
    "They took an innocent man from us. He didn't do anything," she said. "He did exactly as the police asked."
    Bernie Sanders: 'IT. MUST. STOP.'
    She said the officer should "not be home with his family" and she would like to see him jailed. She further expressed disgust that while officers placed her in the back of the police cruiser, other police were consoling the officer who shot Castile, telling him he'd be OK.
    Asked why she began live-streaming after the shooting, she said she wanted people to know the truth.
    "I wanted it to go viral so the people could see," she said. "I wanted everybody in the world to see what the police do."

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    Cop shoots and kills black man in routine traffic stop
    « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 03:24:02 PM »
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  • I wonder how many days (or hours) until the blacks get extremely upset and start rioting over a travesty of justice like this. It's Rodney King all over again.

    Maybe they'll wait until the guilty police officer is slapped on the wrist and set free?

    I must say, this kind of injustice does have an ability to make one very angry. The police officer must have had something against black people, since the victim certainly didn't sound like a thug. And the officer got all nervous right after he shot him. It sounds like he knew he did something wrong.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 03:28:13 PM »
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  • Many people might be instinctively thinking to themselves:
    "Two shootings in two days -- time to take away the damn guns already!"

    Oh, wait a minute -- both shootings were done by police officers.

    I don't think even the most radical Communist sympathizing liberal in the United States is pushing to remove guns from the POLICE or MILITARY.

    Guess the gun control crowd can't get any mileage out of these two shootings!
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    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 06:33:48 PM »
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  • I saw the whole thing unfold live through facebook and social media as this is only 20 minutes from me. This is in the east part of the Twin Cities by the State Fair.

    There's a lot of outrage and rightly so.

    That being said, I haven't heard a thing about gun control. A single thing.
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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 07:23:20 PM »
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    Though you can't see the St. Anthony police officer's face, you can hear the agitation in his voice as he tells Reynolds to keep her hands where he can see them.


    More like, Keep your hands where we can see them or we'll shoot you TOO!

    The "agitation" in the officer's voice is an understatement.  He was SHRIEKING at her. You can hear her fiance's moaning nearby and the officer's shrill shouting in the background.

    The officer ought to be nervous, because his career just went down the drain.

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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 08:52:02 PM »
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  • Those personal dash-cam gadgets aren't such a bad idea these days.

    Officer safety being top priority is ingrained into cops from the academy through their careers.  Well I disagree.  They chose their job just like other Americans chose theirs.  They knew the pay, the perques, the hardships, risks, etc., going into their jobs.  Not killing or maiming somebody unwarrantedly should be top priority.  If I, a law abiding citizen, get stopped for a minor traffic infraction, my life shouldn't be at risk because of clichés like the cops "have a tough job" or "cops deserve to go home too."  Everybody knows that I'm not exactly a race ambassador.  But this is utterly unacceptable to happen to any citizen.

    Another thought.  The police state has used the wars on drugs and then terror and to desynthesize us to infractions against the Bill of Rights.  They started with marginalized citizens and then worked up over years and decades to most all citizens.  Is the same thing now happening with gunning people down?

    Now for my skeptical side.  The girlfriend sure was doing a pretty good and calm job of narrating that her fiancé had just been shot.  Idk--just a little skeptical.

    What's to gain from staging this?  Attack on guns?  Matthew (and I believe others) have noted that this doesn't seem to be a scenario that can be spun against guns.  I agree that seems right at first blush, but I have yet to completely figure out the mind of Jєωry.  Create race riots?  2 similar occurrences close together--maybe so.  Maybe they want to create complete chaos.  Or maybe circuмstances for martial law.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 07, 2016, 09:11:18 PM »
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  • why did the cop draw his weapon in the first place? Is it because the guy told him he was armed? So the lesson is never to tell a cop that you are armed and have a concealed carry permit? Telling that to the officer is supposed to be for your safety so that he is not taken by surprise. None of this makes sense. She does not appear to call 911 or to try to help him in any way. I suppose she was afraid that assisting him would cause her to be shot as well. the whole thing needs to be explained.  Maybe the cop saw the gun first and then drew his weapon. But then the guy would not being going for his wallet because he would've been issued an order to put his hands up or where they could be seen. A cop draws down on you and you reach for your wallet? Unlikely.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2016, 10:08:08 PM »
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  • The bastards always know that I have CCDW license before they even approach my vehicle.  Usually they're halfway cool.  Last time I was stopped though the fat hick cop razzed me and acted like he thought I was lying when I told him no weapons in the vehicle because of my CCDW license.  I carry just about all the time these days, but not back then.

    Most of the guys with state police where I am are pretty reasonable, professional, and cool.  City cops are a crap-shoot though.  I hit a deer and when it came time to get paperwork out of my glove box, I told state trooper about pistol in there.  He couldn't have cared less--let me proceed without any p#$$y-@$$ worries.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2016, 11:47:29 PM »
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  • Larry Elder is reporting that the ethnicity of the cop that shot the nigerian is china... :detective:
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    « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2016, 12:15:58 AM »
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  • If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2016, 12:38:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: Cantarella
    And now this:

    4 officers killed during Dallas protests

    http://abc7news.com/news/chief-says-snipers-shot-10-cops-killing-3-during-dallas-protest/1418208/


    This whole thing exploded just 25 minutes from me. Seriously, I just have to go east on the Interstate and there I am. There have been protests all around the Twin Cities, including at the Governor's residence. This was a horrible situation and I can see the indignation in their eyes here. That was the only news story today.

    That being said, this is abominable. These police officers did nothing but be in the same profession. God bless their lives and the life of who died here in MN. Just shocking. God's vengeance be had on whoever did this abominable crime.
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    « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2016, 12:51:57 AM »
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  • This kind of thing, senseless violence, is becoming all to commonplace.

    Just this week, here in L.A., a gang member in a car driving by a house where another man lives (with whom he had a quarrel) shot several times at the house.  He just shot at the HOUSE.  A young boy on the front porch was struck by a bullet and died, but the boy was just visiting there.  And an older man on the front porch was also wounded.  The man with whom the shooter had a fight was not even home at the time.  The two people hit by bullets do not live at the house.

    I just heard on the news that hundreds of people are marching outside the Police Department in downtown Los Angeles, shouting things like "black lives matter" etc.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2016, 01:04:32 AM »
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  • I FULLY support finding whoever did this and executing them, by the way. An eye for an eye.
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    « Reply #13 on: July 08, 2016, 09:43:10 AM »
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  • The Cop shooting in Minneapolis is an Asian-American.

    The media tried to hide this fact, and blamed it on a White Cop.

    This includes the Governor of Minnesota.

    Much of the racial turmoil in America are incited and instigated
    by the mass media in cooperation with some of Federal, State, and
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    « Reply #14 on: July 08, 2016, 09:53:05 AM »
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  • Every time I hear about another shooting, all I can do is shake my head wondering - why do they keep messing with the cops at all? They will never learn.  
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