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Offline IllyrianOZ

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« on: March 02, 2012, 06:45:36 AM »
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    I'm a Tridentine Roman Catholic from Sydney Australia. I was referred to this site by a close friend, because I was told that there was a great wealth of knowledge and learned people here on all topics. My questions are regarding very 'Hardcore' Conspiracy Theories. I don't necessarily believe these ones, I'm merely raising the premises so that hopefully someone with the answer can help me out. Here it goes;

    1) I'm no heretic, so I know that Our Lord Jesus Christ did not have children, but is there any truth to the  secrets behind the Merovingian Bloodline or is it pure hype and false propaganda?
    I've read that the real claim to divinity by the ancient Merovingians was not through Our Lord Jesus Christ, but that they claim to be descended from a demonic Sea Serpent called a Quinotaur (or Leviathan in the Hebrew Texts), who apparently abducted Europa (A Phoenecian princess) and took her to the west where she bore children (from whom they are descended). This is recounted in most Mediterrenean Mythology. I know this sounds crazy, but could this have been some sort of demonic possession, like in the instance with the Nephilim? I guess this could explain the kind of "Reptilian" nonsense that David Icke goes on about all the time lol.

    1a) Carrying on from question 1, There are so many conspiracies, that the Roman Catholic Monarchs of the Middle ages were 'evil', because they intermarried with these Merovingians, but then we have Catholic Saints like King Louis IX, or Charlemagne who come from them.. so something is amiss.. Was there like 2 competing factions.. the "Real Catholic" Monarchies, and the usurping demonic monarchies.

    2) I've read that the 13 Bloodlines of the Illuminati are descended from Khazars, who are a mix of Edomites, Canaanites and the remnants of the Tribe of Dan. Is this true?

    2a) Carrying on from question 2, I've read that the Venetians are similar to the Khazars, in so much as that they were a colony of the Phoenecians (hence the almost exact name). Canaanite/Edomite/Tribe of Dan Jews founded a colony here which in time became Venice, and hence we get the rebellious Italian State, responsible for the Global Banking Dynasties etc, (Venetian Black Nobility?) who then "met up with" their 'relatives', The Khazars, and united to destroy Catholic Europe. (Whether or not this "meet up with" was planned or not is not my question, rather, that it happened).

    3) Is there any reason as to why everytime The Catholic Church is brought up, it is always followed by "...The Jesuits"?

    4) Finally, Does any know any RELIABLE CATHOLIC WEBSITES/BLOGS that answer all conspiracy theories? I'm sick of reading a page which I thought was half-decent, only to read a line that says "The Catholic Church is an Egyptian Cult bla bla bla!".
     :facepalm: :heretic:  :incense:

    Thank you for taking the time to read my post, I know it's an essay, but these questions have been bothering me for about a year. I would appreciate it if you would answer them by number, if you can so its easier for not just myself, but others to read.
    e.g. 1) Yes Merovingians are descended from a demonic sea serpent (lol)

    I look forward to being a part of this community (I'm not all conspiracies by the way)
    GOD BLESS YOU ALL! AVE MARIA!



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    « Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 09:53:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: Koleci


    1) I'm no heretic, so I know that Our Lord Jesus Christ did not have children, but is there any truth to the  secrets behind the Merovingian Bloodline or is it pure hype and false propaganda?
    I've read that the real claim to divinity by the ancient Merovingians was not through Our Lord Jesus Christ, but that they claim to be descended from a demonic Sea Serpent called a Quinotaur (or Leviathan in the Hebrew Texts), who apparently abducted Europa (A Phoenecian princess) and took her to the west where she bore children (from whom they are descended). This is recounted in most Mediterrenean Mythology. I know this sounds crazy, but could this have been some sort of demonic possession, like in the instance with the Nephilim? I guess this could explain the kind of "Reptilian" nonsense that David Icke goes on about all the time lol.


    This legend indicates that the Merovingian line was sired by a god or (fallen?) angel, making Meroveus a giant, not necessarily of huge physical stature, but a “mighty man of old”, a “man of renown”. Haydock comments that these men were typically cruel and warlike. However my sense is that they possess moral dynamism to a greater-than-normal degree, being partly angelic and thus capable of great evil and great good, and perhaps can’t always be held by us to conventional standards, since they are “hitting targets no one else can see”, to adopt a cliché.


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    « Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 11:14:42 AM »
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    1) I'm no heretic, so I know that Our Lord Jesus Christ did not have children, but is there any truth to the  secrets behind the Merovingian Bloodline or is it pure hype and false propaganda?
    I've read that the real claim to divinity by the ancient Merovingians was not through Our Lord Jesus Christ, but that they claim to be descended from a demonic Sea Serpent called a Quinotaur (or Leviathan in the Hebrew Texts), who apparently abducted Europa (A Phoenecian princess) and took her to the west where she bore children (from whom they are descended). This is recounted in most Mediterrenean Mythology. I know this sounds crazy, but could this have been some sort of demonic possession, like in the instance with the Nephilim? I guess this could explain the kind of "Reptilian" nonsense that David Icke goes on about all the time lol.



    A beast, natural or demonic, can't mate with a human female period. It's pure metaphor, and from that point of view it makes much more sense anyway.

    I think what the tale is used to convey is their spiritual participation in the satanic legacy, the serpent being their "father", and that their roots lie in the east though they reside in the west (the woman being taken from Asia to the west).


    So no. It doesn't explain Icke's Reptilian nonsense. That's something different altogether. That is really just a type of demonic projection/manifestation through a person, but Icke and the devil will tell you it's Martians.

    Actually, considering Icke's philosophy, he's very likely a Luciferian.
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    « Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 11:28:48 AM »
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  • David Icke is a quack and a nut.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 11:49:35 AM »
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  • Funny things about opinions is everyone has one!   Having said that, my opinion is, some people, myself included have a very curious nature.  I like the OP here want to know all these strange things we hear these days, but I wonder if it is God's Will.  I think it says in the Bible somewhere that there are things that are not for us to know.  Reminds me of Adam and Eve and when God told them not to eat of the apple.  

    My advise would be to read lightly and don't take all those New Age teachings too seriously.  Stay firm with the revealed truths of the Traditional Catholic church, beware even of visions of Mary we hear so much about.

    My question is, would God reveal to a Protestant secrets instead of to a Catholic?  The reason I wonder this is, I have come across a Protestant women by the name of Barbara Aho, who has researched all and more of those questions asked here on this thread.

    There is a youTube you might want to listen to, although Protestant, they even refer to the Catholic church as New Catholics, so it seems they know secret things.  Very interesting!



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    « Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 12:07:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Koleci

    3) Is there any reason as to why everytime The Catholic Church is brought up, it is always followed by "...The Jesuits"?



    It's quite simple. They are Protestants/Religious Anarchists that are bitter about getting their arses kicked in the Counter-Reformation.  :smile:

    When you get right down to it, protestantism is religious anarchism. It's religion divorced from the order and authority necessary to retain consistency and unity in the propagation of the faith. The satanic maxim "Do what thou wilt" is hidden under the guise of private interpretation of the Bible and allows for every man to concoct his own version of Christianity according to his tastes without any spiritual or theological guidance or regulation. That's why there are 2000+ protestant denominations today.

    Any group or system that places any kind of "restrictions" on man will be met with resentment from an anarchist.

    In their mind, the Church, the Pope, and any group that reinforces them must be done away with.

    The reason the Jesuits receive so much attention is because their efforts were the most successful in bringing souls into the Church and undoing most of the damage of the Reformation wherever they went.

    They don't have anything substantial, so in their ill-will they have to fabricate stuff about them as usual. St.Ignatius a satanist? Please....
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    « Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 12:09:58 PM »
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    David Icke is a quack and a nut.


    Tell me about it. I heard some people say he claims the moon is an alien spaceship. Why didn't he go on right ahead ans say it's made of cheese?!

    To think that people listen to a word he says!
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    « Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 01:33:39 PM »
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  • Welcome, Koleci. You're from FE, aren't you? It seems like I've seen that avatar and posting style of yours over there...


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    « Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 05:35:25 PM »
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    My question is, would God reveal to a Protestant secrets instead of to a Catholic?  The reason I wonder this is, I have come across a Protestant women by the name of Barbara Aho, who has researched all and more of those questions asked here on this thread.

    There is a youTube you might want to listen to, although Protestant, they even refer to the Catholic church as New Catholics, so it seems they know secret things.  Very interesting!





    I'm watching these videos now, they're excellent! However, I only have one query; How is it that Popes could be Merovingians? Would God allow such treason? Barbara Aho said that Pope Urban II was a Merovingian Jew, and the reason for the Crusades was to retake the Holy Land, rebuild the Temple of Solomon, and try to install the Antichrist back in those days..

    Would God permit The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church to be usurped under high treason by Jews who worked for its destruction???

    (btw i'm not a sedesvacantist, so please don't bring up "contemporary" scenarios)

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    « Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 05:37:16 PM »
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  • Also, I don't want this thread to become about that nutcase David Icke, we all know he's just as bad as the illuminati he "fights"... promoting a one world conciousness etc etc. I just wanted to make the point that maybe thats where people like him get their whole Reptilian Theory. lol

    Thank you everyone for your input!

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    « Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 05:58:16 PM »
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    My question is, would God reveal to a Protestant secrets instead of to a Catholic?  The reason I wonder this is, I have come across a Protestant women by the name of Barbara Aho, who has researched all and more of those questions asked here on this thread.

    There is a youTube you might want to listen to, although Protestant, they even refer to the Catholic church as New Catholics, so it seems they know secret things.  Very interesting!





    I'm watching these videos now, they're excellent! However, I only have one query; How is it that Popes could be Merovingians? Would God allow such treason? Barbara Aho said that Pope Urban II was a Merovingian Jew, and the reason for the Crusades was to retake the Holy Land, rebuild the Temple of Solomon, and try to install the Antichrist back in those days..

    Would God permit The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church to be usurped under high treason by Jews who worked for its destruction???

    (btw i'm not a sedesvacantist, so please don't bring up "contemporary" scenarios)


    When you listen to those tapes, although she had done extensive research, keep in mind she might NOT have the correct answer on all counts, although I think she is right on  much of what she states, and she can document what she says on her web site according to her.  

    I find anything hard to believe about Pope Urban II, he is a blessed after all, yet I wonder why on our ancient Catholic Cathedrals we do seem to have some pagan symbols, did those Mason put them there, and the Vatican just overlooked them thinking they were just art.  What is that all about, I wonder?

    Is it even possible that God allowed this Merovingian Jew to sit in the Chair of Peter, as a warning to Catholics that something like this could and would happen on a larger scale in the future.(Vatican II) Sorry for mentioning Vatican II, I realize you are not a sedevacantist, but it just seems fitting in my explanation to myself.  

    It is important you don't allow any of this information to cause you to lose your Faith, their is a reason for everything that happened in the past, and we might not know all the reasons till after we die, when all this will be revealed to us, in truth.  



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    « Reply #11 on: March 03, 2012, 06:12:10 PM »
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  • Oh yes, I do know that Vatican II led to abominations and an almost worldwide apostacy, because it gave leway to all forms of Modernism which Saint Pope Pius X foretold!

    I have to say, I like Barbara Aho, because even though she's an apostate now (lol) she used to be a Roman Catholic, so she's atleast a "very conservative" Prot.

    I guess the answer to that question is that these Merovingians usurped all kinds of genuine Catholic endevours.. (i.e. they corrupted the Templars over time).


    Another question she brings up, which I am always studying, is this Nephilim phenomenon.  

    I know St Thomas Aquinas says that angels have no gender because they are spirit, but how did they manage to create Nephilim. I always believed it was a type of possession over a male body which they then used to fornicate with the "daughters of man"... but lately I've been seeing/hearing everywhere (even from my University lecturers. A Roman Catolic with a phD in History, ancient languages etc) that in those days, the angels took on a physical form and actually fornicated.

    Both opinions have their supporters, so I'm in the middle on this one.

    Also, Barbara Aho brought up the point of the Quinotaur which I found very interesting, as it was in my original post.. Would you think that this demonic sea-creature, being possessed with the same kind of 'spirit' as the nephilim would, have survived the flood (seeing as how Noah didn't bring sea creatures into the arc), and that the Merovingian dynasty would have some truth in it?

    or the other view, that they escaped and went to other planets..?


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    « Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 06:14:56 PM »
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  • and also, that the Nephilim will return in the final days.. I've actually read on various places, that the satanic elitists are actually trying to do this again..

    I read an account of John Dee, who was the Kabaalistic Magician and advisor to Queen Elizabeth I, was helping her do something along these lines..


    (I apologize to how dark this convo is getting)

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    « Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 06:27:32 PM »
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  • Yes, its dark and frightning, but a subject that is very intriguing.  I must say much of it goes over my head.  lol!

     

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