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The Totalitarian State, Fr Sherry 2021 AD.
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2025, 01:11:07 PM »
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  • https://sspx.ca/en/publications/january-2021-district-superiors-letter-totalitarian-state-38137
    Excerpt:
    "...families – the family of families that is the Nation, and the supernatural family whose father is Our Father, and whose mother is Mary.

    The goal of the State, being temporal (that is, for this world), is called the common good. And the common good is peace. Now peace does not mean the absence of conflict, but rather the tranquility of order. Order is when everyone is in his place; this is the work of justice. When every man gives both to God and his neighbour their due, we have peace. The goal of the Church is eternal life, which is the very goal of man.  Peace helps man to achieve his ultimate goal.

    How do these two work together? As every Catholic belongs to these two societies, there must be some sort of co-ordination between the two. ...


    ...nor should we be perturbed as if this disorder were going to stop us from working out the only thing that matters – our eternal salvation.

    The modern State refuses to recognise God, therefore it takes on the role of God Himself.  This denial of God by the State and the pretense that there are no rights which do not come from the State has a technical name, it is called totalitarianism. Totalitarians may be National Socialists or Red Bolsheviks, or they may be hard-hearted and sentimental liberals who wish to save lives by wearing a mask as they hand out the morning-after pill; but they all have this in common: they are atheistic (in rebellion against God), they are materialistic (the soul doesn’t exist and doesn’t matter – we are just animals), and they are authoritarian. How could it be otherwise?  In the Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn writes: “Power is a poison well known for thousands of years. But to the human being who has faith in some force that holds dominion over all of us, and who is therefore conscious of his own limitations, power is not necessarily fatal. For those, whoever, who are unaware of any higher sphere, it is a deadly poison, for them there is no antidote.” Just as the man who denies God and perseveringly chooses mortal sin is condemned to utter destruction by making himself his god, so also the family and the nation who place their salvation in bodily health, a vaccine, wealth, or any other false God. We would do well to meditate often on the whole of the seventy-second psalm. “For behold they that go far from thee shall perish.” (Ps. 72)
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    Anyone else realize that the gob't is controlling more and more of our Catholic MORES?

    Merriam-Webster
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    MORES
    Definition & Meaning
    The meaning of MORES is the fixed morally binding customs of a particular group.

    €€€€€€€€€€

    To blindly yield to  silly civil powers who arrogate God's authority = MORON.



    La mesure de l'amour, c'est d'aimer sans mesure.
    The measure of love is to love without measure.
                                     St. Augustine (354 - 430 AD)


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    Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2025, 06:05:55 PM »
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  • What do you suggest for those who need to travel?  
    Shall Catholics all dig bunkers in the desert or the wilderness and live in isolation?
    Think of all the priests who do so much traveling to bring the scattered faithful the Mass and Sacraments. Refusing all contact with the government will result in thousands of souls having to make do without. Where there are groups of Catholics, there’s the Japanese plan. Where there are single families or only singles entirely on their own, too bad, I guess, barring a miracle.  

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    Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
    « Reply #3 on: May 21, 2025, 06:37:08 PM »
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  • You don't have to comply. 
    If you have a passport (you need to get one) and you can use it for domestic travel as well as abroad. You don't have to get Real ID. You can actually get a standard license without real ID in Pennsylvania. It's a choice.
     Although the passport is digital and biometric, legally it is not part of the same database that TPTB have put in the "real ID basket" which will include social credit and CBDC. If you have a passport already, you can renew it for another 10 years online. If you are just getting a new one, it cost somewhere around $130.

    It's true that they already have all of this information on all of us, but at this point if there is something they are demanding that I don't have to comply with, I won't. 
    BTW I know people that have been fighting real ID for almost 20 years.
    It's not a new thing.

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    Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
    « Reply #4 on: May 22, 2025, 01:33:10 PM »
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  • You don't have to comply.
    If you have a passport (you need to get one) and you can use it for domestic travel as well as abroad. You don't have to get Real ID. You can actually get a standard license without real ID in Pennsylvania. It's a choice.
     Although the passport is digital and biometric, legally it is not part of the same database that TPTB have put in the "real ID basket" which will include social credit and CBDC. If you have a passport already, you can renew it for another 10 years online. If you are just getting a new one, it cost somewhere around $130.

    It's true that they already have all of this information on all of us, but at this point if there is something they are demanding that I don't have to comply with, I won't.
    BTW I know people that have been fighting real ID for almost 20 years.
    It's not a new thing.
    No, I don’t have to get one here, either, I don’t think. I do not have a passport, never had one, either, no reason for it. I plan on keeping my old license until it expires in 2026. If I can just renew it without Real ID, then I will. 


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    Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
    « Reply #5 on: May 22, 2025, 08:57:59 PM »
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  • I'm into conspiracy theories like the next guy (hey, I'm a Flat Earther), but I don't see Real ID being anything at all by itself.  You ALREADY need SOME form of photo ID to travel on a plane.  You might be able to get a Greyhound ticket without a photo ID, but that's about it.

    ALL you have to do to get the "REAL" ID is to show some proofs of residency, i.e. a couple utility bills etc.  And do we really think they don't have that information on their hands already?  When I was applying for a loan here these past few days, they already had all my financial information, all my accounts, not only bank accounts but other loan accounts, mortgage, etc.  In fact, they probably know what stuff I buy on a weekly basis and what brand and style of toilet paper we use.

    We are NOT providing anything extra with REAL ID that they do not already have.

    With that said, it's not about "safety" either, since, as I said, they already know who we are, where we are at nearly all times, etc.

    They will control our travel whether we want to or not ... No Real ID?  No travel for you (and probably not just by plane going forward).

    REAL ID is no threat whatsoever.

    It's also like with the digital currency.  They ALREADY HAVE everything digitized.  Only difference is that we also have cash TOO.  Recall how they wanted to get rid of it because it was dirty and spreading viruses during the Plandemic.  So they'll find a reason to get rid of it.

    CBDC is just a way to more closely organize all the banks more real-time, so that when the time comes, if you don't have a good "social credit" (i.e. compliance record), when the jobs dry up due to AI and engineered crashes, then "no food for you".

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    Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
    « Reply #6 on: May 22, 2025, 08:59:03 PM »
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  • I'm actually going in the other direction ... to go get a passport.  I got burned when I couldn't consider flying out to attend Bishop Williamson's funeral, and neither could another individual I was considering sponsoring for a trip over there.

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    Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
    « Reply #7 on: May 23, 2025, 12:18:15 AM »
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  • so if you have a real id (the star) on your driver's license but not a passport, can you still fly overseas? :confused: