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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2025, 08:57:59 PM »
I'm into conspiracy theories like the next guy (hey, I'm a Flat Earther), but I don't see Real ID being anything at all by itself.  You ALREADY need SOME form of photo ID to travel on a plane.  You might be able to get a Greyhound ticket without a photo ID, but that's about it.

ALL you have to do to get the "REAL" ID is to show some proofs of residency, i.e. a couple utility bills etc.  And do we really think they don't have that information on their hands already?  When I was applying for a loan here these past few days, they already had all my financial information, all my accounts, not only bank accounts but other loan accounts, mortgage, etc.  In fact, they probably know what stuff I buy on a weekly basis and what brand and style of toilet paper we use.

We are NOT providing anything extra with REAL ID that they do not already have.

With that said, it's not about "safety" either, since, as I said, they already know who we are, where we are at nearly all times, etc.

They will control our travel whether we want to or not ... No Real ID?  No travel for you (and probably not just by plane going forward).

REAL ID is no threat whatsoever.

It's also like with the digital currency.  They ALREADY HAVE everything digitized.  Only difference is that we also have cash TOO.  Recall how they wanted to get rid of it because it was dirty and spreading viruses during the Plandemic.  So they'll find a reason to get rid of it.

CBDC is just a way to more closely organize all the banks more real-time, so that when the time comes, if you don't have a good "social credit" (i.e. compliance record), when the jobs dry up due to AI and engineered crashes, then "no food for you".

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2025, 08:59:03 PM »
I'm actually going in the other direction ... to go get a passport.  I got burned when I couldn't consider flying out to attend Bishop Williamson's funeral, and neither could another individual I was considering sponsoring for a trip over there.


Re: Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID)
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2025, 12:18:15 AM »
so if you have a real id (the star) on your driver's license but not a passport, can you still fly overseas? :confused: