Why would anyone need to ask Sungenis anything about this - he published "My PhD from Calamus International University".

Then, why in the world are you asking me: "klasG$e, did Sungenis get his PhD from Calamus International University?"

Here is the link to the essay mentioned by the previous commenter: https://isidore.co/misc/Physics%20papers%20and%20books/Cosmology/Copernican%20principle/Sungenis%20&%20De%20Lano/about%20Sungenis%27s%20%22Diploma%20Mill%22%20PhD.pdf

Thanks much for your intervention rosenley!  Hopefully, the thread can continue on without any further attempted trashing of Dr. Sungenis' academic credentials, much less by extension his good name.

Quote from: klasG4e on October 06, 2018, 01:49:51 PM
Stanley N: Thank you for sharing this. This ends up explaining a lot.
If his "dissertation" were academically rigorous, he could have taken it to a real academic institution, perhaps taken some classes in bible studies and theology, and received a recognized, accredited degree.
Instead, he apparently went to Calamus International University. It no longer exists, but was registered in  Venuatu (an island nation in the south Pacific) at the time. Registration as a business does not mean it was accredited as a university. CIU degrees are not recognized in the US, and it was not really accredited. CIU is generally recognized as a "diploma mill" with at best, very low standards. As an example, a reviewer for his "dissertation" was Bennet, who was coauthor of GWW, which as you imply was substantially his "dissertation". That alone would look like a conflict of interest at most real universities. Furthermore, did people with appropriate credentials ever approved his dissertation? I see zero evidence it ever received peer review. So thank you for pointing out that Sungenis appears to have a fake PhD.

klasG4e: Yes, Stanley I did accuse you of defamation based on your above earlier response to me.  Having already been aware of what Dr. Sungenis stated in the following link, I stand by that accusation and will leave it to the readers of this thread who care to check out what Dr. Sungenis has publicly stated in his defense as to whether they would consider your words a smear (i.e., defamation) of Dr. Sungenis or not.  The link to Dr. Sungenis position is here: https://isidore.co/misc/Physics%20papers%20and%20books/Cosmology/Copernican%20principle/Sungenis%20&%20De%20Lano/about%20Sungenis%27s%20%22Diploma%20Mill%22%20PhD.pdf  

If anyone cannot access or does not wish to access the above linked article (dated 1-28-2007), they may simply read Dr. Sungenis' note to me dated 10-7-2018.  It reads as follows: "Regarding my Ph.D. degree, Calamus International University (CIU) issued bachelors, masters, and Ph.D. degrees under the governmental authority of the Republic of Vanuatu. Therefore the degrees issued were not “fake.” They were legal degrees, as official as degrees from any other institution under governmental authority. However, the CIU degrees were not accredited in the United States, and that is because CIU did not seek accreditation from governments outside of Vanuatu, and Vanuatu did not require accreditation, similar to Denmark. Further, CIU was not a “diploma mill,” since diploma mills are facilities that issue fake degrees for money but require no previous or current academic work, nor previous bachelors or masters degrees. CIU required both previous accredited bachelors and masters degrees, as well as significant academic work from each of its Ph.D. students, as well as a monitored and graded Ph.D. dissertation, judged and approved by other Ph.Ds in the same field. My dissertation took over two years to write and was approved “Excellent” in nine out of nine categories. For the past 12 years I have freely divulged all these details to the public since I received the Ph.D. degree from CIU in 2006. I went into the CIU program knowing full well it was non-accredited, and I did so because, after investigating what was available, I could find no accredited institution that would allow a Ph.D. in geocentrism. What I didn’t expect is that my ideological enemies would exploit CIU’s non-accreditation in the fierce defamatory manner they have. These kinds of people judge from appearance, not from substance. The substance of my work for the past 30 years has been acknowledged both nationally and internationally, by peer and foe alike, and that work took much more time and effort than my Ph.D. The high academic quality of my work is obvious for all to see, at least those who are not filled with animosity and prejudice against me simply because I sometimes deal with esoteric issues with which they don’t agree. Over the past 25 years of service I have given to the Catholic community in teaching and defending the Catholic faith, I have written over 45 books; produced three movies; hosted two television shows; was a guest on 45 radio shows; participated in 30 formal debates; written hundreds of articles; ran an apologetics organization and was one of the best apologists in my field. What counts is the quality of my work, and that work speaks for itself, including my most recently published book, Scientific Heresies and Their Effect on the Church."

But that the defamation of Dr. Sungenis via attacks on his Ph.D. degree from Calamus International University by Catholics and others would finally come to an end -- at least on this thread.  I would encourage others who support Dr. Sungenis and his work to file away the link above as well as the note from him I have quoted verbatim above.  I believe it is safe to say that Robert Sungenis is the most preeminent and renowned geocentrist in the world today.  For that reason if no other I sadly suspect the attacks on him and his work will continue until the day he dies.  

Defamation is saying false things. He did receive his PhD from Calamus, and it is generally regarded as a diploma mill. Your failure to retract demonstrates something about you.

Sungenis addresses the accusation of Calamus being a diploma mill in the quote of his which I am again pasting for you below.  He denies that it was and explains the reason for his denial.  I believe that what Sungenis says is true (I have known him personally for many years and have found him to be a very truthful and honorable Catholic gentleman) and therefore I do not retract my charge of defamation.  By the way, it appears from what you have posted on CathInfo that you do not believe in geocentrism.  I have found over the years that those who do not believe in geocentrism have spread all sorts of defamation against Dr. Sungenis.  No surprise there.

Dr. Sungenis states: "Regarding my Ph.D. degree, Calamus International University (CIU) issued bachelors, masters, and Ph.D. degrees under the governmental authority of the Republic of Vanuatu. Therefore the degrees issued were not “fake.” They were legal degrees, as official as degrees from any other institution under governmental authority. However, the CIU degrees were not accredited in the United States, and that is because CIU did not seek accreditation from governments outside of Vanuatu, and Vanuatu did not require accreditation, similar to Denmark. Further, CIU was not a “diploma mill,” since diploma mills are facilities that issue fake degrees for money but require no previous or current academic work, nor previous bachelors or masters degrees. CIU required both previous accredited bachelors and masters degrees, as well as significant academic work from each of its Ph.D. students, as well as a monitored and graded Ph.D. dissertation, judged and approved by other Ph.Ds in the same field. My dissertation took over two years to write and was approved “Excellent” in nine out of nine categories. For the past 12 years I have freely divulged all these details to the public since I received the Ph.D. degree from CIU in 2006. I went into the CIU program knowing full well it was non-accredited, and I did so because, after investigating what was available, I could find no accredited institution that would allow a Ph.D. in geocentrism. What I didn’t expect is that my ideological enemies would exploit CIU’s non-accreditation in the fierce defamatory manner they have. These kinds of people judge from appearance, not from substance. The substance of my work for the past 30 years has been acknowledged both nationally and internationally, by peer and foe alike, and that work took much more time and effort than my Ph.D. The high academic quality of my work is obvious for all to see, at least those who are not filled with animosity and prejudice against me simply because I sometimes deal with esoteric issues with which they don’t agree. Over the past 25 years of service I have given to the Catholic community in teaching and defending the Catholic faith, I have written over 45 books; produced three movies; hosted two television shows; was a guest on 45 radio shows; participated in 30 formal debates; written hundreds of articles; ran an apologetics organization and was one of the best apologists in my field. What counts is the quality of my work, and that work speaks for itself, including my most recently published book, Scientific Heresies and Their Effect on the Church."

Calamus is generally regarded as a diploma mill.

You, Stanley N, insist that Calamus is generally regarded as a diploma mill.

On the other hand, you have not been impressed by quotes of physicists and astronomers who are regarded as gods by your same standards (godless academia). Rather, you acted as if the quotes hadn't even been presented to you.