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Coming soon to a church near you
« on: October 26, 2013, 11:57:01 PM »
Ever-increasing pressure on the U.S. budget has inspired some unconventional thinking on how to balance it, or at least make a dent.

One idea gaining traction: Get stricter with tax-exempt groups.

Newsweek, citing a study from the Secular Coalition of America, reports that if the IRS were to stringently enforce section 501(c)(3) by getting tougher on religious groups that promote political candidates or use funds for noncharitable purposes, it could lead to an additional $16.75 billion in revenue.

Via Newsweek:

"We're trying to use the current budget crisis as an example, as a way to show lawmakers what can be done," says Lauren Anderson Youngblood, Secular Coalition for America spokeswoman. "We're not doing this to hurt anyone. We're not doing this to attack churches or attack religion. We simply want things to be fair."

All told, in 2012, there were 1,616,053 tax-exempt organizations in the U.S., according to Time magazine. That list includes educational institutions, sports leagues, and potentially polarizing groups like the Heritage Foundation and Planned Parenthood
The National Football League, for example, enjoys tax-exempt status, albeit a different type — section 501(c)(6) — than religious organizations. Recently, that status has been called into question.
Earlier this year, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) proposed an amendment to the Marketplace Fairness Act, which would end the NFL's tax-exempt status. The wildly popular NFL is a $9 to $10 billion-per-year organization, but does not pay federal taxes. A Change.org petition asking that Congress revoke the NFL's tax-exempt status has over 282,000 signatures.

According to Coburn's report, if professional sports organizations — including the NFL, Professional Golfers Association (PGA), and National Hockey League (NHL) — weren't exempt from federal income taxes on earnings, the government would be able to generate an additional $91 million annually. Major League Baseball gave up its tax-exempt status in 2007.

Of course, $91 million is a big number, but when it comes to the overall budget, it's a drop in the bucket. Another idea, more controversial, is to tax all churches. While many would no doubt find that distasteful (dare we say sacrilegious), the tax influx would have a significant effect on the budget, according to Ryan T. Cragun, a sociologist of religion cited by the Washington Post in August.

Via the Washington Post:

"Cragun et al estimate the total subsidy at $71 billion. That's almost certainly a lowball, as they didn't estimate the cost of a number of subsidies, like local income and property tax exemptions, the sales tax exemption, and — most importantly — the charitable deduction for religious giving. Their estimate that religious groups own $600 billion in property is also probably low, since it leaves out property besides actual churches, mosques, etc."

Gaudy numbers, but ones that are more than likely to remain theoretical. Newsweek spoke with Chuck McLean, vice president of research at charity watchdog organization GuideStar, about the prospects of the IRS — which faced intense criticism over its scrutiny of tea-party-related charities — going after tax-exempt churches.

Via Newsweek:

"If they flipped a coin and it came up heads, then they would go after tax exemption of churches. If it came up tails, they would poke themselves in the eye with a red hot needle," he says. "It's a no-win proposition for them to go after churches under the best circuмstances."

http://news.yahoo.com/are-tax-exempt-groups-to-blame-for-budget-problems--154407106.html

Coming soon to a church near you
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 12:44:36 AM »
I am totally against churches being non profits because they must sign away their rights and responsibilities to be one.  Why should an organization NOT have a right to express their political views????  Better to pay the tax and be free to speak out than to sell out for a tax break.  Our churches have a responsibility to educate their members on the right way to think about politics and have been mute for far too long.

Marsha



Coming soon to a church near you
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 02:41:27 AM »
Quote from: Marlelar
I am totally against churches being non profits because they must sign away their rights and responsibilities to be one.  Why should an organization NOT have a right to express their political views????  Better to pay the tax and be free to speak out than to sell out for a tax break.  Our churches have a responsibility to educate their members on the right way to think about politics and have been mute for far too long.

Marsha


Even if they paid taxes they people who are against them would find another way to go after them.

Coming soon to a church near you
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 08:13:42 PM »
Marielar:  I agree that a church should be able to speak their mind/soul, BUT why should they pay a tax to do so?!

We have trouble with organizations who call themselves Pro-Life and they make themselves exempt from taxes and that makes them gagged from the political issues.  And some of these organizations claim to be catholic and ask, beg for monies in the catholic charities that have been proven to be for abortion and all the other immoralities that one can think of.  I refuse to give any $ to any New Order pro-life organization that speaks up for New Order Bishops and such when they all support those charities.

So, in the dioceses papers across the US, and maybe around the world, they boast of the catholic charities 80th anniversary.

The new Order serves not God, but the god of the agenda of the federal gov't and because they do, they must answer to them and therefore, they will be told to take on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priests, which they do, and then to make those civil unions as the new order calls them, take place.  And New Order churches will close to destroyed because they are owned! by the gov't.

Won't those new order people be surprised!  

Coming soon to a church near you
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 03:22:06 AM »
Quote from: Marlelar
I am totally against churches being non profits because they must sign away their rights and responsibilities to be one.  Why should an organization NOT have a right to express their political views????  Better to pay the tax and be free to speak out than to sell out for a tax break.  Our churches have a responsibility to educate their members on the right way to think about politics and have been mute for far too long.

Marsha



There are churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs which are non profit and not only don't pay taxes but receive grant money.   And they can preach and say whatever they want.   Some of these churches preach hate.  Like obama's pastor, rev wright.

As always, it's Catholics who are discriminated against.   The United States has long history of anti Catholicism.