Oh, he's a plant alright. A big, leafy, pink perviflora.









Pink has to be this guy's favorite color... but back to the plant part: Why would this conservative youtuber extraordinaire be given access to a Q&A session during the synod? No, he won't criticize the Pope, but he did attend a certain Catholic Identity Conference the year before with some of the world's most visible critics of Vatican II.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/PajgVWtgx1M[/youtube]

Oh yeah:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/K-zXF62Ac9o[/youtube]

Unintended impressions must be purged! Confession time!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/4m2O0DVex84[/youtube]

I would think for most trads, the intended bait wasn't strong enough to hook. The guy has virtually no backstory or family photos or connections to speak of.

This has been your Catholic Conspiracy Corner update.

I don't know if he's a plant, but he's certainly joined the enemy and is probably receiving money now from the enemy because he no longer seems to care about alienating the only people who ever supported him.  My two cents

I'm not a big fan of any of the lay apostolates. I find it much more edifying to just read the material of dedicated religious and listen to sermons and conferences by priests and a bishop.

My theory why we gravitate to the lay apostolates more than we should is because they do not challenge us that much. They focus disproportionately on the visible enemies of the Church, and not enough on our biggest enemies, ourselves. It doesn't require much to watch their videos and pat ourselves on our backs for not being modernists. We know we can watch them for hours and our consciences will not be challenged that much.

Reading Bishop Williamson's weekly comments or listening to his sermons on the other hand can be a big challenge!  Watch and pray, 15 mysteries everyday!

The Remnant responds:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/tze_qOw6ezY[/youtube]

Very well done. These two are a couple of old dogs and they did a sufficient job of taking Voris and Company to task. In fact, it seems they have visited this thread for ideas as well. The Fox News comparison put forth by you, and my idea that CMTV paints themselves as the only outlet left standing according to their own analysis and their obvious positioning strategy over the past couple of weeks in discussing new and old guard media. Michael Matt did a great job of playing basically the straight man and Chris Ferrara being the one to deliver the best digs in a logical and lawyerly fashion. After I watched this I also watched the entire segment of CMTV. This is getting to the point that the one I end up believing or siding with is the last one I hear. It's kind of like watching a political debate. And that's a shame.  

I have already taken CMTV to task for their smugness and self importance in this thread so I will start by pointing out a few weak links in the Remnant response. I hope they will be given fair hearing here. At one point Chris Ferrara states that the Church in Germany is already in a silent apostasy and possibly verging into schism. And he states that even if things don't go the way of the German bishops at the end of this Synod, they plan to do what they want anyway. Now that seems to paint a picture of bishops being the greatest problem. And that has always been my take especially in the case of JPII and Benedict. However, with Francis this may have changed as he seems to be the first case of a wayward bishop rising to the top job. In other words I think the case can be made, at least historically, for attacking bishops and basically leaving the pope alone because the biggest problem has been bishops not listening to the pope, or simply ignoring him and implementing their own ideas. In other words, if the Synod fails to pass their more modernist agenda, and the German bishops admit divorced and remarried to Holy Communion, Voris will look like the reasonable one for attacking disobedient bishops and giving benefit of doubt to the pope, but more importantly the Chair and the Magesterium.  

I think, or at least I extend the benefit of the doubt to Voris that he may never have tried to differentiate himself from certain trads if he wasn't first criticized. I remember very well on AQ a person who is consistently mocked right here being the first to demand something of Voris. That's my experience, she may not have been the first. And who was it? Why our own Dawn Marie, a seer of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Instead of enjoying what Voris had to offer she put up an instant litmus test to gauge his authenticity. And now most of you can guess what it was but I will state it anyway. The first demand she made was that Voris bring up the 3rd Secret conspiracy nonsense and that if he did not he can't be the real deal. Is it any wonder that Voris would be cautious of such praise coming from that particular segment?

So everything is out in the open, or so it would seem, and we have picked up every rock and looked under it and have determined that in fighting is definitely going to happen in the end. Or so it would seem that is the case. I however would like to point out the 900 pound gorilla in the room that neither of these sides talks about. And if they did, they may be able to attack true enemies of the Church rather than other loyal sons. And that's the Jews. Masons are sometimes brought up, but never the Jews. Because everyone is afraid of them. And my biggest problem with how Fatima is viewed by the Grunerrs, Krammers, and those who follow them is that Fatima, imho,  becomes the last resort of not naming the Jew as our enemy. It is much easier to blame our popes.

I happen to attend a diocesan TLM. In fact, it is probably the most famous parish in the world for training priests and conducting the fight within the Church. I don't say that to brag or make myself important, I am simply in a geographic place where this is occurring. If I did not have this available to me I would certainly attend an SSPX Chapel if that were the only TLM available to me.

Chris Ferrara makes the point that Voris and company seem to use emotion rather than logic to view the irregular canonical status of the SSPX and to call it schism. And Chris is 100% correct about this. However, I would say right back at him, he and Michael Matt, and John Vennari are using emotion rather than logic in their alliance with Fathers Gruner, and Krammer in making a big deal about Fatima and venturing into what I refer to as X Files Catholicism vis a vis a skewed view of Fatima. They are both right that this has to be fixed at the top.

So that is my honest opinion and take on the situation. I mean no offense to anyone and again I hope it is given fair hearing. Not for my sake, but for all of ours. At the end of the day most of us here are just little people trying to do our best to navigate through these diabolical times as best we can. In truth the totality of the situation breaks my heart.  

What a stupid, bold-facedly dishonest, calumnious smear piece.  

He should hang his head in shame. :geezer:

Please tell me what you don't like about AJ?

It's a loooong list, but I'll try to sum up...

His over-the-top antics:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/6pS7Omhgck4[/youtube]

Here he is disrupting a pro-gun ownership rally:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/9uyIVzdvGi4[/youtube]

Proof that all he's good for is making an utter fool of himself, here he is making Piers Morgan look like a sensible adult in a professional setting (only by comparison):

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/_XZvMwcluEg[/youtube]

Then there's his association with Zionism, Jews and Stratfor. Stratfor is a private intelligence firm whose Jєωιѕн founder, George Freidman, has connections going back to the RAND corporation. There's a great rundown of the issue at Fitzpatrick Informer:

https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/alternative-media-continues-to-ignore-alex-jones-stratfor-connection/

In 1999, after only 3 years of getting his own radio show, he somehow "infiltrates" the Bohemian Grove. In 2001, he ends up playing himself in Hollywood films "Waking Life" and again in "A Scanner Darkly". The man is a walking cartoon... a "Crazy Eddie" of conspiracy theory.

Also, in regard to Jeff Gannon, please see this:
http://www.rense.com/general67/gannn.htm

Regardless of where you stand with the Franklin Coverup and it's possible connection to Gannon, you still had a fake journalist gαy male escort being given top clearance from the Secret Service to sit in on White House press conferences and actually lob softball questions.

Methinks thou dost protest too much (about obvious shill plants.)

Not nearly enough!

The entire Conciliar episcopacy is controlled, false opposition. They're the reason why most of their Sect has, at best, nominal believers. The Conciliar hierarchy is the reason many of their adherents support abortion "rights", lack belief in Christ's true Bodily presence in the Eucharist, and increasingly support perverted fαɢɢօtry.

The Vatican is a good ole boy club with a very dark element of fαɢɢօts and pedophiles, both of whom go hand-in-hand.

The entire Conciliar episcopacy is controlled, false opposition. They're the reason why most of their Sect has, at best, nominal believers. The Conciliar hierarchy is the reason many of their adherents support abortion "rights", lack belief in Christ's true Bodily presence in the Eucharist, and increasingly support perverted fαɢɢօtry.

The Vatican is a good ole boy club with a very dark element of fαɢɢօts and pedophiles, both of whom go hand-in-hand.

The Vatican is that indeed, only interested in your money and saving their own hide.