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Climate Change bill will destroy economy
« on: July 03, 2009, 09:22:30 AM »
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  • This is a must-read -- if you only read ONE THING about this climate change bill and then ignore everything else -- this article is well-written, concise, and perfect.


    Banksters Love Cap-and-Trade: Economic collapse about to accelerate
    The well-placed and well-connected are set to make trillions off new climate bill

    The sweeping new bill which just passed the House last Friday, the Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009, is ostensibly about climate change, but it is in fact a bill of staggering economic ramifications that is going to accelerate the takeover of the economy by the well-placed financiers who have already plundered the Treasury and the Fed of $12+ trillion and counting. It was rushed through the House in the tradition of such nightmarish legislation as the Patriot Act and the banker bailout of last October: hundreds of pages were added to it at the last minute and it was humanly impossible for anyone to have read it before they voted on it. This, of course, is exactly what Obama promised his administration would never allow to happen, and for good reason; bills passed in this manner are always the result of fear and panic and inevitably results in legislation that would never be passed upon sober second thought.

    In this case, the rush to pass this new bill was an attempt to stop any scrutiny of a plan that is going to utterly transform the American economy, further centralize control of citizens' lives in the hands of unaccountable federal bureaucrats and complete the transfer of the American economy from Main Street to Wall Street. And all of this in the name of fighting a threat which itself is a demonstrable fraud. In short, the banksters and bureaucrats are sharpening their knives, preparing to butcher what's left of the carcass of the United States, and a good portion of the public are not only willing to allow it but are actually clamoring for it.

    The first thing that needs to be understood about the brand new trillion dollar carbon-trading commodities market that will be brought into existence if this bill passes the Senate is that it is a ripoff designed by and for the very corporate interests the environmentalists claim to be fighting. For an historical precedent of what is being proposed under this cap-and-trade scam one can look to Enron, which immediately found ways to plunder billions of dollars from new energy market legislation passed by the Clinton Administration in 2000. They gave schemes for manipulating billions of dollars out of Californians funny little names like Death Star and even went so far as to rig up a completely fake trading floor in their offices in order to bamboozle investors who were interested in the company's remarkable success. They got away with it because they were The Smartest Guys in the Room, much brighter than the government bureaucrats who were supposed to stop them from committing such blatant fraud (assuming the regulators weren't simply paid to look the other way). And now supporters of this new bill are putting their blind faith in these same bureaucrats to regulate a scheme to create a vastly more complex market with hundreds of times as much money at stake. Is it any wonder Enron was a booster for cap-and-trade?

    That the new carbon trading market can and will be manipulated by the very same financial oligarchs and government bureaucrats who have brought the world to the brink of economic Armageddon is laid bare in a must-read article by Matt Taibi in the latest issue of Rolling Stone. In "The Great Bubble Machine" Taibi meticulously docuмents how the amazingly well-connected Goldman Sachs has managed to manipulate and profit from every financial bubble since the Roaring Twenties and how they're getting set to do it all over again with the creation of a carbon trading bubble:

    "The bank owns a 10 percent stake in the Chicago Climate Exchange, where the carbon credits will be traded. Moreover, Goldman owns a minority stake in Blue Source LLC, a Utah-based firm that sells carbon credits of the type that will be in great demand if the bill passes. Nobel Prize winner Al Gore, who is intimately involved with the planning of cap-and-trade, started up a company called Generation Investment Management with three former bigwigs from Goldman Sachs Asset Management, David Blood, Mark Ferguson and Peter hαɾɾιs. Their business? Investing in carbon offsets. There's also a $500 million Green Growth Fund set up by a Goldmanite to invest in green-tech ... the list goes on and on. Goldman is ahead of the headlines again, just waiting for someone to make it rain in the right spot."

    In effect, this bill creates an entirely new commodity that is guaranteed to generate ever-increasing profit for those who have already spent millions preparing to get in on the ground floor. Here's a hint: that does not include your average mom and pop investor or your dual-income family struggling to make ends meet in a crashing economy. Here's another hint: it does include financial juggernauts like Goldman Sachs who have been investing in solar, wind, and biofuels for years and now just happen to find themselves in the perfect position to start reaping vast profits from their headstart in the new carbon credit economy (and you thought Paulson was into going green for any other reason than making green?). It also includes Obama, who was instrumental in helping set up the Chicago Climate Exchange for his political cronies like Al Gore, who already has a company which he uses to buy carbon credits from himself and who had made multi-million dollar investments in companies developing carbon tracking software that will be essential to the new carbon-swindle economy.

    There are still those out there, however, who believe that this time it's going to be different. This time the government is going to set up a new trillion dollar industry overnight, make sure it is regulated by angels of unquestionable integrity and goodwill, prevent it from being manipulated by big business, and create scores of new "green" jobs in the renewable energy industry (presumably to replace the hundreds of thousands of jobs that the economy is already hemorrhaging or the hundreds of thousands more that will be shed when these carbon taxes and penalties really ratchet up in the next decade). Well, let's assume for a moment that we have crossed into just such a fantasy world. It still does not change the fact that the bill itself only offers phony solutions to a problem that doesn't exist.

    The phony solution is the "Clean Energy" part of the Clean Energy and Security Act. What feelgood platitudes about pumping billions of dollars into solar, wind and alternative energy projects obscure is that throwing money hand over fist at inherently flawed technologies will not actually make them work, nor will it make the money-hungry charlatans who promote them any more honest. Just ask Albert Lanier. He's a freelance journalist who has been writing a series of articles about First Wind, a Massachusetts-based wind developer that is currently being investigated by the New York Attorney General's office. In a recent interview with The Corbett Report he revealed how the Mafia has been linked to the Italian wind farm industry, which might say more about the industry than it does about the mob.

    Of course, the entire idea of "cleaning" the atmosphere of carbon dioxide seems a bit ridiculous when you realize that by historical levels we are living in a CO2-starved environment, that global surface temperatures are dropping, that global ocean temperatures are dropping, that key proponents of the manmade global warming theory have been caught faking data to support their arguments, that Arctic sea ice is expanding, and that sea levels are not rising. But why let actual science get in the way of a good scare story, especially when that scare story can be used to create a new trillion dollar industry for the banksters?

    For those who cannot be convinced to consider an issue until it affects them personally, rest assured this draconian new legislation will reach into every American citizen's living room...literally. As Congressman Steve Scalise has already pointed out, this "climate bill" contains within it a new national building code that supersedes all existing state codes. If enacted, this legislation will create an entirely new class of federally-funded green brigades with the mandate to perform house-to-house inspections to look for violations of this new "green" building code. They would even be able to impose civil penalties for code violations (like having the wrong windows or lightbulbs). Watch Congressman Scalise's comments in the player below:

    This bill is not only unnecessary, it is dangerous. It is not only economically reckless, it is economically suicidal. It's passage will be a particularly dark day in American legislative history, something almost unthinkable given the constitution-destroying atrocities passed during the Bush years. There is only one thing left for Americans to do: call their senators and let them know that it's time to make a decision: vote against the Clean Energy & Security Act of 2009 or join the unemployment line come next election.
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    Climate Change bill will destroy economy
    « Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 09:56:31 AM »
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  • There are ways we can prepare -- today -- for the new world that this bill is going to create.

    Today, before the price increases, you want to spend your 2009 dollars on things like solar screens, insulation, weatherstripping, a new A/C unit, or anything that will lower your electric bill. Same goes for gasoline usage -- if you were thinking about getting a car that uses less fuel, do it now.

    Once electricity prices have gone up, then EVERYONE will want solar panels, windmills, etc. and they will be more expensive. They still might be a good idea, but you'll lose a lot of the "savings" since you'll have to pay $1100 instead of $500 for a given-size of solar panel, because solar panels DO require electricity to make them, hence "they generate CO2".

    And it's not just the solar panel itself, but all the trickle-down expenses -- everything will cost more, including gasoline -- so installation will have to go up. It's going to cause massive inflation of EVERYTHING since everything uses energy.

    I'd say practice NOW at conserving electricity. Right now, a kilowatt-hour only costs you 8 to 10 cents. But what if it cost 30 cents? Your $150 electric bill will be $450. But some people WISH their electric bill was only $150.

    Right now, I'm saving maybe $130 a month by keeping the A/C at 83 degrees (81 at night) instead of 78 or 79. But in a year, I'll probably be saving more like $400 by doing the same thing.
    So I better get some shade trees, get some solar screens, and prepare for using a lot less electricity.

    I don't think the economy is going to be booming to make up for a doubling of my electric bill -- quite the contrary. This is going to jump-start the Great Depression.

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    « Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 10:03:26 PM »
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  • Ireland will be under water, probably sooner than later.  That will, at least, destroy Ireland's economy.  Guaranteed.  No offense.  I know that you are a moderator, of course, and I not trying to get on your "bad" side.  I love this forum, I really do!!

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    « Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 10:40:40 PM »
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  • That's ok -- I don't live in Ireland. It's just that my dad's family has Irish heritage, which I'm happy to partake of.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 10:41:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Jehanne
    Ireland will be under water, probably sooner than later.  That will, at least, destroy Ireland's economy.  Guaranteed.  No offense.  I know that you are a moderator, of course, and I not trying to get on your "bad" side.  I love this forum, I really do!!
     There was a time this year when I feared Ireland was going to be totally flooded, but it passed, thank God.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 06, 2009, 08:14:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Quote from: Jehanne
    Ireland will be under water, probably sooner than later.  That will, at least, destroy Ireland's economy.  Guaranteed.  No offense.  I know that you are a moderator, of course, and I not trying to get on your "bad" side.  I love this forum, I really do!!
     There was a time this year when I feared Ireland was going to be totally flooded, but it passed, thank God.


    I was speaking a permanent flood.  Problem with climate change is the issue of nonlinearity.  The climate may be like a row of dominoes, knock the first few over and things can get out of control until a new equilibrium is reached, which could be 10 to 15 degrees (Celsius) above what things are now.

    Take our sister planet, Venus.  The daytime high there (which is also the daytime low) is around 460 degrees Celsius, making Venus hotter than Mercury even though it is twice the distance from the Sun.  Yet, only 3% of the sunlight that arrives at Venus makes it to the ground.  The result is reflected back into space, which is why Venus is referred to as the Morning/Evening star, because it is so bright that it can cast shadows here on Earth.

    So, even with less sunlight reaching its surface than is reaching the surface of the Earth, Venus manages to remain very, very warm, well above the boiling point of water.  It is not so much climate change that is the issue, but catastrophic climate change which could render our World uninhabitable.