Caminus specifically asked for some RELIABLE information in the original post. I will leave it to the forum to judge who has made a good-faith effort to be helpful and informative, and who has not. Now if it please the readers, I shall deal with some of the objections raised to my account, such as they are.
Where did I mention that this is being done by commercial airliners? What is ridiculous is your boxing with a shadow of your making. Boy, you CREAMED that shadow, Boss...way to go!
I’m not boxing with shadows. There has been some conversational implicature throughout this thread to the effect that we were speaking about commercial air traffic, and that is the assumption I made. If the jets to which Caminus referred in the original post had been military, or otherwise suspicious, I’m sure he would have identified them as such, as it is a salient fact which would have qualified his question and lent it an increased urgency. That he did not do so leads me to believe (as I’m sure it would lead most people to believe) that he was speaking about ordinary, commercial jets. In any case, none of this effects the core of my argument, which was rooted in physics (which knows no distinction between commercial and military).
Who said anything about flying right over a city? No one. MoW, your reading comprehension is in need of some serious improvement.
Actually, you said it. Is this not your typing?
FWIW, if the chemtrail debunkers' explanations were legitimate/reasonable, you'd actually see MANY MORE "long-lasting contrails" above major metropolitan areas than you do on those days when the conditions are as their theory suggests.
It seems that my reading comprehension is just fine, while you are unable to even remember what you wrote (or unwilling to acknowledge it). Cast aspersions if you must, but the facts are here for everybody to see.
since it will take the most economical flightpath toward its destination, and since most of the country is uninhabited
That may be true for large chunks of the western US, but it sure as hell is NOT true east of the Mississippi. Get a new argument.
The argument was that high-altitude jets, which are the only ones that
usually form contrails, would not be flying over cities with any more frequency than they would be flying over any random point on the earth’s surface. This would be true no matter how densely the cities were packed; i.e., it would be true east or west of the Mississippi. It is the low-altitude jets flying into and out of airports, which do not form contrails, which are seen with increased frequency over cities, and
not seen in uninhabited areas. This was written in order to refute your statement that, if I were right, one should expect to see many more contrails over urban areas than one actually does. I have shown that this expectation is false.
MoW, push your disinfo/pseudo-science somewhere else. You argue with points that were NEVER MADE -- and then you want arrogantly present yourself as scientifically literate! This forum is not for kewl-aiders nor shadow-boxing douche bags.
I’m not going to dignify that.
I suppose this professional meteorologist is just scientifically illiterate...
One wonders how you come off criticizing other people’s reading comprehension when you can’t even absorb the contents of a thirty-seven second video. The meteorologist in that clip specifically identified those radar reflections as
chaff. CHAFF!
Chaff is neither new nor controversial. It has no long-term deleterious effects on the weather or on human health. And since the military has to use it in combat, one would expect them to train with it once in a while, over friendly skies, where the results of the exercise could be studied. There is not one mention of chemtrails here.
Please everybody, watch Gladius’ vaunted video and see for yourself if he knows what he’s talking about.
Some men just won't believe that the government is anything but benign. Even the most damning evidence (e.g., the events of 9/11) won't budge them -- they'll believe any irrational explanation, to convince themselves their world hasn't been shattered.
I have called the United Government a “criminal organization that deserved deposition many times over” right
here, in the pages of your own forum. If you’re going to make an ad hominem attack, you should at least make sure that it sticks. (It’s a non sequitur too, by the way. And also a false dichotomy. But I have to hand it to you, packing so many logical fallacies into two sentences. That isn’t easy to do.)
I got my "call a spade a spade" from my dad -- he's the reason my last name ends with "Mc". What do you know, Eamon is ethnically Irish as well!
The Irish have plenty of faults, but one of their common virtues is being BS-proof. God bless 'em!
It must have skipped a generation with you two. Sorry, that was a little fresh; but seriously, you guys seem to have fallen for every urban legend drifting around out there.
I suppose MoTW doesn't believe in HAARP either -- and believes the official story of 9/11?
If either one of those are true, I will dismiss anything he says.
I’ve already said repeatedly that I do NOT believe the United States government had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks besides being negligent. As to HAARP, of course I “believe” in it. It’s a research facility in Alaska; it exists. And it does the kind of research that I happen to be interested in. Did you ever stop to think about how
cool plasma physics is, or do you just want see cօռspιʀαcιҽs everywhere? Do you realize how many applications this research has? You are only depriving yourself of a chance to be more excited and engaged by the wonders of nature when you focus exclusively on these dour cօռspιʀαcιҽs. Go ahead and dismiss me, but I think you’re refusing the better part.
Come on, I've even heard a Novus Ordo priest talk about how chemtrails exist.
Well, hang it all, that should settle it.
