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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2025, 10:40:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on November 06, 2025, 06:07:25 AM
    Any Traditional Catholic who attacks Archbishop Lefebvre and his providential work that saved the Faith and Liturgy in the greatest crisis in Church history will have an account to render one day to the Just Judge.

    Just to be honest.  Nowhere did I criticize +Lefebvre.  It was the demise of the SSPX beginning with GREC, their cover-up of pervy priests, the fact that they hemorrhage priests, don't conditionally ordain, brought in Huonder, etc.  And you know, if you're in the 'Resistance', that that is the tip of the iceberg.  +Lefebvre was instrumental in history but the SSPX has become a train wreck.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #31 on: November 06, 2025, 10:54:42 AM »
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    • It just goes to show you that without good authority everything falls apart.  It has been 30+ years since +Lefebvre death and the Crisis is more messy than ever.  How many more years can we survive like this?  The longer we go the more inept at obedience and charity we seem to get.  Just my observation.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #32 on: November 06, 2025, 11:05:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on November 06, 2025, 10:54:42 AM
    How many more years can we survive like this? 
    I wonder that as well.  On the heels of the latest denial of Our Lady there is almost nothing left to demolish.  It reminds me of a quote from, I believe, from Our Lady to Mother Mariana that 'when all seems lost that will be the beginning of the restoration' (paraphrase). Things definitely seem to have reached that point.  How much lower can it get?
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #33 on: November 06, 2025, 11:41:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on November 06, 2025, 10:54:42 AM
    It just goes to show you that without good authority everything falls apart.  It has been 30+ years since +Lefebvre death and the Crisis is more messy than ever.  How many more years can we survive like this?  The longer we go the more inept at obedience and charity we seem to get.  Just my observation.
    But it doesnt mean we have to let it fall apart in our heads.

    We stick to going to resistance only Masses and getting Sacraments from resistance only priests, and in doing that we keep our Faith pure and our consciences unsullied.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #34 on: November 06, 2025, 02:27:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on November 06, 2025, 10:54:42 AM
    Quote from: Gray2023 11/6/2025, 11:54:42 AM
    It just goes to show you that without good authority everything falls apart.  It has been 30+ years since +Lefebvre death and the Crisis is more messy than ever.  How many more years can we survive like this?  The longer we go the more inept at obedience and charity we seem to get.  Just my observation.
     
      +ABL compromised with newChurch and accepted the Bugnini/Montini bastardized 1962 Missal.

      Accept a butchered Holy Week Liturgy and the fruits of your apostolate will be poisoned.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #35 on: November 06, 2025, 02:42:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on November 06, 2025, 10:40:02 AM
    Just to be honest.  Nowhere did I criticize +Lefebvre.  It was the demise of the SSPX beginning with GREC, their cover-up of pervy priests, the fact that they hemorrhage priests, don't conditionally ordain, brought in Huonder, etc.  And you know, if you're in the 'Resistance', that that is the tip of the iceberg.  +Lefebvre was instrumental in history but the SSPX has become a train wreck.
    You said very simply that the SSPX has not produced much fruit. That is an attack on ABL and his Society, and a monstrous falsehood.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #36 on: November 06, 2025, 03:32:10 PM »
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    • Blah blah freakin blah.  I did criticize the wayward SSPX.  I did not criticize +Lefebvre.  Please, Plenus, put a sock in it.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #37 on: November 06, 2025, 04:00:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on November 06, 2025, 10:54:42 AM
     How many more years can we survive like this?  
    The Church will survive to the end of time.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #38 on: November 06, 2025, 04:26:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 06, 2025, 11:41:52 AM
    But it doesnt mean we have to let it fall apart in our heads.

    We stick to going to resistance only Masses and getting Sacraments from resistance only priests, and in doing that we keep our Faith pure and our consciences unsullied.
    But there is not enough resistance only Masses.  So are you saying home alonism is part of the solution.   And what about independent priests that +Zendejas supports but they don't have the same opinion on the Crisis.  We can't  make it so confusing that the next generation doesn't know their Faith well because they haven't seen it action because they had no priest to teach them.
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #39 on: November 06, 2025, 04:30:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimonJude on November 06, 2025, 04:00:59 PM
    The Church will survive to the end of time.
    Yes we know that, but when will it be strong again?
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    Re: Checking in on Sedevacantism
    « Reply #40 on: November 06, 2025, 08:33:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on November 06, 2025, 04:30:31 PM
    Yes we know that, but when will it be strong again?
    In God's time.
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