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Offline Kephapaulos

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Charles Coulombe on the American Revolution
« on: July 04, 2017, 12:29:41 PM »
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  • Revisiting the American Revolution with Charles Coulombe:

    Charles Coulombe on Monarchy and Catholicism:
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    Re: Charles Coulombe on the American Revolution
    « Reply #1 on: July 04, 2017, 04:51:33 PM »
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  • http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2017/07/america-was-not-to-be-part-of-western.html

    America Was Not To Be A Part Of Western Civilization

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    Happy Independence Day, I suppose. 

    Many in the Alt-Right these days like to argue about how much we need to save the West.  "The West," in this case, includes the United States and Europe.  There is even a sub-group in the Alternative Right called the Alt-West.  Vox Day argues for this cause often, and even recently, he once again indirectly argued about how Americans should understand "The Rights of Englishmen."

    What all of these "save the West" figures tend to not realize is just how un-European America's cultural forefathers meant for us to be. 

    Let's consider Noah Webster, the author of the Webster Dictionary:

    "A national language is a band of national union.  Every engine should be employed to render the people of this country truly national; to call their attachments home to their own country; and to inspire them with the pride of national character.  However they may boast of independence, and the freedom of their government, yet their opinions are not sufficiently independent; an astonishing respect for the arts and literature of their parent country and blind imitation of its manners are still prevalent among the Americans."

    Webster was not talking about Somali immigrants or Hindu Indian guest workers.  The "parent country" Webster was referring to was England.  That very same Whiggish realm that fed the propaganda of oligarchical rebellion, those "Rights of Englishmen."  So important was it to Webster to separate Americans from Englishmen, that he changed the spelling of basic English words, labeling the effort as a reform. 

    As Charles Coulombe explains in Puritan's Empire, "There must be, in as many ways as possible, a radical divorce from both the mother country and the rest of Old Europe."  The word honour was to be spelled as honor, centre as center, and recognise to recognize.  The goal of Webster and others was to cut off the younger generations from the old  country

    Webster and others desired to banish the old, European, and Catholic culture from the shores of America forever, in the hopes of making this a continent of Unitarians. 

    More than just language, Webster desired to ban classical and British literature from classrooms:

    Another defect in our schools, which, since the revolution, is become inexcusable, is the want of proper books. The collections which are now used consist of essays that respect foreign and ancient nations. The minds of youth are perpetually led to the history of Greece and Rome or to Great Britain; boys are constantly repeating the declamations of Demosthenes and Cicero, or debates upon some political question in the British Parliament...

    But every child in America should be acquainted with his own country. He should read books that furnish him with ideas that will be useful to him in life and practice. As soon as he opens his lips, he should rehearse the history of his own country; he should lisp the praise of liberty, and of those illustrious heroes and statesmen, who have wrought a revolution in her favor.

    Webster did not want American children to read any non-fiction from anyone other than Americans.  The classical literature of Greek and Latin fame were to be ignored.  British life was to be erased from the memory of all generations after the Revolutionary War, and all eyes were to be turned inward from the shores of the Atlantic (and later, the Pacific). 

    On this matter, Coulombe continues:

    In a word, education ought not to be the expansion of the mind so as to assist both in life and salvation, but at base, ideological indoctrination.  Rather than teach the student, via the great minds of Western Civilization, how to think (and so evaluate things himself) he was to be initiated into the sort of nation-worship which was then being forumlated, but which has been the mainstay of education in this country ever since.  

    Schools were to be--and are--centers of indoctrination.  Longing for the good-old days of American education is to long for a more infantile version of what we already have.  Today, America's parents shove their children off to be ground down and processed into a judaized Nickolodeon/MTV culture, where they will learn to cherish sodomy and cheer anti-white racism.  Looking back, as we observe the efforts of those like Noah Webster, we begin to understand that what we have now had its beginnings in Puritan Hebraism.  American education was not to be an extension of the greatness of Western Civilization, but an indoctrination factory for an isolated people. 

    Factions within the Alt-Right are obsessed with somehow returning us to the cultural purity of post-1776 American society.  They argue that we need to restore Western Civilization.  I can't help but chuckle.  The Founders were trying to isolate us from Western Civilization. 

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    Re: Charles Coulombe on the American Revolution
    « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2017, 11:02:41 PM »
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  • Happy Independence Day, I suppose.
    Yes, independence from Anglican England. :heretic:
    The Founders were trying to isolate us from Western Civilization.
    From here:
    Quote from: Geremia date=1499191116 link=msg=217
    Separating from Anglican England would seem to have been a good thing, enabling the U.S. to reunite with Rome easier someday (as England had been before Henry VIII).

    The religious pluralism problem is something George Washington studied; he even visited Catholic Masses and the false-worship of Protestant sects (cf. A Powerful Mind: The Self-Education of George Washington). (Washington is thought to have undergone a death-bed conversion to Catholicism, too.)

    However, see Bp. Williamson's "" and "" (American Revolution mentioned at about the 1 min. mark).
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