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  • In August, the CDC proposed amendments to existing protocols that will give themselves arbitrary authority to apprehend and detain unlimited number of healthy people for indefinite periods with no due process of appeal and no medical evidence of infections, if they, or the area in which they reside, is merely suspected of exposure to communicable disease.

    88 pages is too long to quote.

    https://www.federalregister.gov/docuмents/2016/08/15/2016-18103/control-of-communicable-diseases#h-32



    The CDC asked people to comment on their new measure. Here are people's comments:

    https://www.regulations.gov/docketBrowser?rpp=50&so=DESC&sb=postedDate&po=0&dct=PS&D=CDC-2016-0068
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    CDC to apprehend detain unlimited healthy people merely on suspicion
    « Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 11:33:59 PM »
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    In August, the CDC proposed amendments to existing protocols that will give themselves arbitrary authority to apprehend and detain unlimited number of healthy people for indefinite periods with no due process of appeal and no medical evidence of infections, if they, or the area in which they reside, is merely suspected of exposure to communicable disease.

    88 pages is too long to quote.

    https://www.federalregister.gov/docuмents/2016/08/15/2016-18103/control-of-communicable-diseases#h-32



    The CDC asked people to comment on their new measure. Here are people's comments:

    https://www.regulations.gov/docketBrowser?rpp=50&so=DESC&sb=postedDate&po=0&dct=PS&D=CDC-2016-0068


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    Comment
    REALLY? My body belongs to me, the dark ages are over, your vaccinations are making us sick and dead viruses in the skin just confuse the body. Why can't you get into the correct century?
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15515
    Submitter Name: Kimberly DeCenzo
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment  undefined
    See Attached
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15523
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    We CANNOT vote for Hillary Clinton or anyone else other than Donald Trump, we will continue on this path. Donald Trump is for choice for parents. We must vote for him and be able  to make these very important choices for our children, ourselves and our grandchildren. We cannot let our government FORCE this upon us! Vote for Trump everyone. Let our voices be heard! What can we do to try to stop this? How do I volunteer?
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15516
    Submitter Name: CiCi01 D
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    1 object. Governments worldwide were foreclosed December 25, 2012.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15513
    Organization: anthem7 Submitter Name: henry mayhew
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    No! People have rights to be treated the way they want to, and the right to deny certain treatments.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15511
    Submitter Name: Amanda Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    This is AMERICA!! We, as AMERICANS, will NOT allow the CDC to adopt any such regulations which are in complete violation of our constitutionally protected rights to religious  freedom and health freedom!!! We WILL NOT be force vaccinated and we will NOT comply with any such Un-American regulations!

    The CDC has proven to be the most corrupt and incompetent federal agency and should be dismantled at once!!

    These proposed new regulations violate both our US Constitution as well as the Nuremberg Codes! OVER MY DEAD BODY WILL I ALLOW THESE OUTRAGEOUS RULES TO BE IMPLEMENTED!!!
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15518
    Submitter Name: Melissa Chios
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    No I think it would be totally wrong for the Government to be able to force the public to be vaccinated. I feel it is totally upto the individual as to whether they are vaccinated  or not, and upto parents as to whether or not to vaccinate their children. Many vaccinations contain Mercury, Aluminium and Formaldehyde. From things I have seen Aluminium has been strongly related to SIDS, and there are many cases where children have had medical problems after vaccination.
    I also feel that what I heard the government was doing this year in stopping the childcare rebate and the family tax benefit part A supplement to people that did not want to vaccinate their children through care for their childs wellbeing is totally wrong.To me this appears to border on blackmail, Australian taxpaying citizens that are in that sort of financial situation have always been entitled that help and now the government wants to take it away if we dont put our children at risk. If they offered some kind of reward, bonus or something like that for those who did it fine. But to say if you dont do this you lose something you have been entitled to, is wrong in that respect.
    When my own son was born we decided not to vaccinate, at the age of nine he trod on a rusty nail and we decided to get him a tetanus shot. Upon doing so we found out it meant he had to have other vaccines aswell. We decided to allow it at the time. He now has a permanent goose bump type rash on both his shoulders which the doctor confirms is from the vaccines. Well lucky this reaction was only minor. But what if it was not. How would you ever compensate a parent for the death or permanent suffering of their child due to the government wanting to dictate what they do. Money can not meet this.
    Beside the fact that to force people to vaccinate is totally against the Australian way of freedom of choice. The Australian Government is voted in by the Australian people and paid by the Australian people through taxes, and is meant to work for the Australian people not dictate at them.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15519
    Submitter Name: Jason Coles
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    Mandatory vaccines? How about you mandatorily KISS MY ASS!! DO you understand how I feel about you forcing drugs on me? As far as I am concerned after reading hundreds of vaccine  inserts, I DO NOT WANT YOUR POISONS.
    I do not want to die from your cancer causing poisons do you want to die from lead poisoning from my bullets?
    Every American has the right to stand up against criminal government tyranny.

    Stop circuмventing and destroying the Human immune system just so you can create people who are sick for a lifetime and make your money off us.

    In 1976 I got my last vaccine. I also got the Flu from that vaccine. In 1977 I was on leave when the military FORCED my outfit to get the Swine Flu vaccine. 7 men died.

    I have not had the flu since 1976. I have been sick twice from food poisoning. Sick twice in 39 years. Can you say that???

    Assholes.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15517
    Submitter Name: Daniel Wiberg
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    you guys are full of sh*t.the medical mafia, no better than nαzι mengler.  you are big business.  people should get out of the usa and move to russia.  you obviously learnt nothing from world war 2. 50 million people lost there lives for freedom.people should fear the drugs you are pushing that are killing people like flies. you are ruling by fear.there will be a revolution. the very rich should be worried. michael g collins.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15514
    Organization: collins engineering service Submitter Name: mike collins
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment  undefined
    See Attached
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15522
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    People in USA have had the right to not accept imposition of body properity,medicine,mostly if they are poison for humans. KARMA IS COMMING YOUR WAY...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15512
    Organization: yo momma Submitter Name: KAREN FAULKNER
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment  undefined
    I completely oppose the CDC's new propose rule (CDC-2016-0068). It goes entirely against the foundation this country was created upon: the free will to pursue health and happiness...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15520
    Submitter Name: Brandy Vaughan
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    IDP-CDC-quarantine-comments-14OCT2016  undefined
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    Public Submission Posted: 10/17/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15521
    Submitter Name: Edward Hasbrouck
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    It is unconstitutional to forcibly detain, to force any medical procedure on a citizen against their will, or to punish a citizen by detaining them for refusing a medical procedure. Not only would this legislation impede the rights of the citizens of the United States, but it would very likely cause many people to be detained for ailments that are not a significant threat, such as a skin condition or a common cold. I strongly oppose any such legislation, and I will oppose any legislator who supports it.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15053
    Submitter Name: Marie Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I oppose this ruling. This is madness. Vaccines have yet to be proven safe or effective, most especially the current CDC recommended schedule of 69 doses. Such a racket. Children...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14957
    Submitter Name: Kirsten Peckham
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I believe there should be no mandatory vaccinations for anyone. There are too many side effects of vaccinations that do harm to people. All people should have the right to receive...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15055
    Organization: N/A Submitter Name: Rosemary Collene
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I am against this proposed rule. It would give the CDC totalitarian, unconstitutional, unchecked, unprecedented powers, self-described as "police powers." The CDC, like many other agencies now, has been corrupted by corporate interests and is not working - at least at the top levels - in the best interests of the public.

    The new "rule" will allow health officials to treat people -- without an examination -- with a medical treatment (vaccination or otherwise) that carries with it the risk of serious injury and death.

    The new "rule" would give CDC unfettered power to add or delete any diseases that fit their criteria. I oppose such vague criteria.

    Giving the CDC military-like of powers is exactly what was done by the government in nαzι Germany. Any forced medical treatments, on any pretext, is a violation of human rights and the Nuremburg Code.

    The CDC is attempting to radically change their definition of what constitutes an "ill" person by including a wide range of vague symptoms such as an ill appearance that may be assessed by officials without medical training. I oppose this nebulous definition.

    Simply being identified as "at risk" of exposure makes one classifiable as having a "pre-communicable disease," which can thereby result in one's forced apprehension, quarantine and vaccination. I am firmly against this.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15369
    Submitter Name: J Adkins
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    CDC Docket No. CDC-2016-0068 If there is risk, there must be choice. It is the basis for medical freedom in this country that any one has the right to refuse any medical...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15189
    Submitter Name: Julia McCullough-Perreman
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    This proposed rule is over reaching and in violation of citizens rights. You can not detain, isolate and vaccinate citizens and still call America a free country. The police...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15056
    Submitter Name: Fadi Mansour
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    This enlarged group of powers for the CDC to detain travelers and people, to hold them against their will, to force vaccinations or other treatment on them, etc. is one of the...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15036
    Submitter Name: Carol Faust
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I do not agree with this proposed rule.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15457
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    Center for Disease Control and Prevention CDC Department of Health and Human Services HHS Docket No. CDC-2016-0068 I strongly oppose the proposed rule and I am commenting...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14980
    Submitter Name: Kristin Brady
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    There is no need to do that as there is no medical justification for that.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15356
    Submitter Name: Magdalena Laffaye
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    It's my right to choose to vaccinate or not. I stand with the right to medical freedom and do not approve of the CDCs fascist ways.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15022
    Submitter Name: Janine Ann
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    This rule is inappropriate and gives government entities the right to quarantine and treat individuals based on suspicion alone...I do not agree with ruling. Please do not enforce...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15317
    Submitter Name: Angelica White
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I will echo the dissent from the individual citizens, groups, and government representatives who see this new proposed rule making for what it is: A userpation of a basic human...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14819
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I completely oppose the CDC's new propose rule (CDC-2016-0068). It goes entirely against the foundation this country was created upon: the free will to pursue health and happiness...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15500
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    After reviewing the proposed law and comments made about the law's provisions, we find that the powers given to the CDC are far more extreme than necessary for quarantining a...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14922
    Submitter Name: Robert Ullman
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    This is absolutely NOT okay. It is unlawful and unconstitutional to force any kind of medical procedure on a person. I oppose this vehemently!
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15182
    Organization: Moms Across America Submitter Name: Kay Myers
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I am greatly concerned about the unlawful push for mandatory vaccines. I am also greatly opposed to more government control over my health and the health of my family. I feel it...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15154
    Submitter Name: Deborah Ley
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    ATTN: Quarantine NPRM. Docket No. CDC-2016-0068 Opposed; No to more regulation
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15087
    Organization: Home Submitter Name: Michael Martin
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    RE: Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) by CDC and HHS Concerning Quarantine I have concerns about the proposed HHS/CDC Rule that would expand police powers to detain, isolate...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15057
    Organization: US citizen Submitter Name: Lea Greve
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    To whom it may concern, I am against this rule. I am vehemently opposed to this overreaching proposed HHS/CDC rule that would isolate, vaccinate and quarantine citizens. This...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14949
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I AM TOTALLY AGAINST BEING FORCED INTO RECEIVING VACCINATIONS, I DO NOT WANT NOR DO I NEED ANY VACCINATIONS...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15069
    Submitter Name: Nora Phillips
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I as a citizen of the United States of America demand that our rights as individuals and parents to make healthcare decisions for ourselves and our children be respected and up...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15259
    Submitter Name: anonymous Young
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I am completely opposed to monstrous proposal. Under the Nuremburg code, it is ILLEGAL for the federal government to force medication on sovereign people. The federal government...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14809
    Submitter Name: Carol Poole
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I completely oppose the CDC's new propose rule (CDC-2016-0068). It goes entirely against the foundation this country was created upon: the free will to pursue health and happiness...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14768
    Submitter Name: Angela Lockhart
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I strongly object to and have serious concerns about the overreaching proposed HHS/CDC Rule that would expand police powers to forcibly detain, isolate, vaccinate and quarantine...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15321
    Submitter Name: Celia Gillam
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    This is a huge overreach and a slippery slope. No, to this! Please do not move forward with this,
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14872
    Submitter Name: John Pittenger
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    Please do not give the gov/cdc the control over our bodies , like the in germany, north korea or china , and kill us, with unneccessary means , even ebola and zika have been around...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15263
    Submitter Name: Linda c Fraley
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I am commenting on Agency: Department of Health and Human Services - Docket No. CDC-2016-0068 or RIN 0920-AA63. I do not agree with measles being labeled as a quarantinable...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15302
    Submitter Name: Kala Snyder
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I completely oppose the CDC's new propose rule (CDC-2016-0068). It goes entirely against the foundation this country was created upon: the free will to pursue health and happiness...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15502
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I am strongly opposed to the Proposed Rule. The Rule provides vague terms for permitted government actions and leaves significant loopholes for abuse and coercion. It violates...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15330
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    A family should have the right to choose what injections/drugs they put in their bodies and those of their children. Not allowing a child to attend public school because of not...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15030
    Submitter Name: Judy Johnston
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    Docket No. CDC-2016-0068 or RIN 0920-AA63 I have very serious concerns about the proposed rule. According to the rule, U.S. health officials could detain anyone simply for...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14953
    Organization: Balanced Wellness Submitter Name: Meghan Schoening
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I support Health Choice and NVIC on this issue.
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15185
    Submitter Name: Andria Love
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    The proposed Centers for Disease Control (CDC) rule granting police powers to forcibly detain, isolate, vaccinate and quarantine citizens sounds like something out of communist...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15163
    Submitter Name: M Match
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    Two whom It may concern, I am sending a message asking for health choice and freedom. I am am requesting that the newly proposed rule that the Centers for Disease Control is...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15383
    Organization: NVIC.ORG Submitter Name: Jennifer Gaudino
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment
    I strongly oppose the CDC having the power to quarantine and detain people. There are WAY too many questions as to their integrity and credibility on numerous issues and how they...
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-15357
    Submitter Name: Anonymous Anonymous
    Comment Period Closed

    Oct 14, 2016 11:59 PM ET
    Comment  undefined
    Comments to Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) for Control of Communicable Disease, Docket No. CDC-2016-0068, in attachment
    Public Submission Posted: 10/16/2016 ID: CDC-2016-0068-14877
    Organization: A Voice for Choice Submitter Name: Kathy Vinson



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