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Offline Maria Regina

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Catholics vs. Mormons
« on: February 10, 2020, 01:47:23 PM »
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  • When I was growing up in the early to late 1950, several of my family friends joined the Mormon church because they liked the structure and had lost hope in Pope Pius XII. Why? They did not tell me.  However, the support (control) given to Mormon families was their key reason for their sin of apostasy.

    Then with Vatican II and the satanic Novus Ordo, many more of my Catholic friends left Catholicism, with the conservatives joining the Mormons or Evangelicals, and the liberals joining the Protestants, Jєωs, Buddhists, Muslims, etc.

    Do the Mormons still pose a threat to Catholics?



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    Were they in the know?


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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #1 on: February 10, 2020, 01:55:14 PM »
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  • Mormons aren't even Christian. Sure, they believe in a "Jesus" but he bears NO resemblance to the Jesus we love and worship.

    They believe that what Jesus was, we can be. And that Jesus was once as any of us -- until he got HIS own planet. But we, too, can get our own planet and be in the same position as Jesus someday.

    Complete nonsense.

    It bears more connection to a fantasy religion, cult, or paganism than it does to Protestant Christianity.

    The ONLY thing going for the Mormons is their grasp of the Natural Law: natural male/female roles, family values, etc. They used to have quite large families; I don't know if they still do. But natural virtue isn't going to get you to heaven...
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    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #2 on: February 10, 2020, 02:27:13 PM »
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  • I agree entirely with you.

    The idea that a man and woman who marry in the Mormon Temple become King and Queen of their own planet when they die is ludicrous.

    That this fake cult was created in the late 1820 and was heavily influenced by Masonry is overlooked by many.

    Smith, their founder, was a 33 degree Mason, and he used the Masonic apron as part of the Mormon wedding ceremony. Worse, only people "baptized" in the Mormon temple can marry in the temple, so men pressure their girlfriends to convert, become baptized, and then marry them, so they can have their own planet after they both die.

    Additionally, Christ is not considered to be God. Mormons consider Christ to be born as a man and then he became a "god" as all Mormons are supposed to become if they are good. This is a form of Arianism. Furthermore, Christ our God, did not create mormonism, nor did He choose their "apostles."

    Mormonism seems to be a cafeteria religion picking heretical elements out of Islam (the black rock, harems of many wives), Catholicism (Arianism), Protestantism (a church council and president without a pope, bishops, lay missionaries), etc.

    In addition, Mormons have stolen some basic ideas from Catholics as they go to confession to their "bishops," and can be "excommunicated."

    Finally, good Mormons are encouraged to develop their own companies and contribute lots of money to the leaders in Mormonism. From my experience with them, they are not ethical with those outside of Mormonism, similar to the beliefs of Masonry.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #3 on: February 15, 2020, 05:11:52 PM »
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  • In his day, Joseph Smith was called the American Mohammed.

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #4 on: February 15, 2020, 09:44:36 PM »
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  • I had the privilege of learning about the Mormons when I was a seminarian. We went to their Disneyland-esque temple in Washington DC and got a tour. 
    I know people throw around the term "Disneyland" left and right these days, but the adjective was quite appropriate in this case.

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #5 on: February 15, 2020, 09:47:13 PM »
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  • I heard recently that Mormons don't drink coffee. Is that true? If so, what's the reasoning?
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #6 on: February 16, 2020, 12:03:06 AM »
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  • Why Mormons Don’t Drink Alcohol, Tea, and Coffee | Pacific.LDS.org
    https://pacific.churchofjesuschrist.org/why-mormons-dont-drink-alcohol-tea-and-coffee


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    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #7 on: February 16, 2020, 12:28:16 AM »
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  • I had the privilege of learning about the Mormons when I was a seminarian. We went to their Disneyland-esque temple in Washington DC and got a tour.
    I know people throw around the term "Disneyland" left and right these days, but the adjective was quite appropriate in this case.


    Doesn't this "Disneyland" temple look like a mosque with those spires?  Children would be drawn to visit such a place and probably would mistake it for Disneyland.

    With "the awakening" many people have become aware that pedophilia is prevalent worldwide, not only in Catholicism (especially in the NO), but also in Protestantism, Islam, Judaism, etc. Within the LDS faith, there have been several cults where child-wives are part of the bigamy present in communes. Does the LDS harbor pedophiles?
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #8 on: February 16, 2020, 01:44:46 PM »
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  • Mormons aren't even Christian. Sure, they believe in a "Jesus" but he bears NO resemblance to the Jesus we love and worship.

    They believe that what Jesus was, we can be. And that Jesus was once as any of us -- until he got HIS own planet. But we, too, can get our own planet and be in the same position as Jesus someday.

    Complete nonsense.

    It bears more connection to a fantasy religion, cult, or paganism than it does to Protestant Christianity.

    The ONLY thing going for the Mormons is their grasp of the Natural Law: natural male/female roles, family values, etc. They used to have quite large families; I don't know if they still do. But natural virtue isn't going to get you to heaven...
    I'll one up you.  Mormons aren't even real monotheists.

    They believe that God the Father was himself just a man like us, who worked his way up to gaining his own universe and ascending to Godhood.

    And while I don't think this is official dogma anymore, Brigham Young taught that Adam, yeah, the Adam who fell in the Garden of Eden, is himself the God we serve.

    They also believe that we too can work our way up to godhood the sane way that our God did.

    I believe the Mormons teach that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate gods as well.

    Brigham Young, when he described Adam as God, called him "the only God with whom we have anything to do" implying the existence of other gods who rule over other universes.

    Honestly, this nonsense seems even less compatible with natural revelation than something like Islam, тαℓмυdism, or even Greek Polytheism, all of which recognize that God/the gods are in some real way above us.  I *may* be missing something with this latter point.

    As a former Protestant, I'm really iffy on calling Protestants Christians (I acknowledge they are minimally so, given their baptisms.)  They all, to varying degrees, majorly and in obvious ways depart from any historical consciousness of the Christian faith in a way that the Eastern schismatics don't (I think denying this for extra orthodoxy points wouldn't really make sense given the historical data.)  But they are *at the least* certainly monotheists, and certainly far closer to orthodoxy than Mormons.  

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #9 on: February 16, 2020, 02:46:44 PM »
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  • I'll one up you.  Mormons aren't even real monotheists.

    They believe that God the Father was himself just a man like us, who worked his way up to gaining his own universe and ascending to Godhood.

    And while I don't think this is official dogma anymore, Brigham Young taught that Adam, yeah, the Adam who fell in the Garden of Eden, is himself the God we serve.

    They also believe that we too can work our way up to godhood the sane way that our God did.

    I believe the Mormons teach that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate gods as well.

    Brigham Young, when he described Adam as God, called him "the only God with whom we have anything to do" implying the existence of other gods who rule over other universes.

    Honestly, this nonsense seems even less compatible with natural revelation than something like Islam, тαℓмυdism, or even Greek Polytheism, all of which recognize that God/the gods are in some real way above us.  I *may* be missing something with this latter point.

    As a former Protestant, I'm really iffy on calling Protestants Christians (I acknowledge they are minimally so, given their baptisms.)  They all, to varying degrees, majorly and in obvious ways depart from any historical consciousness of the Christian faith in a way that the Eastern schismatics don't (I think denying this for extra orthodoxy points wouldn't really make sense given the historical data.)  But they are *at the least* certainly monotheists, and certainly far closer to orthodoxy than Mormons.  
    From what some leaders in the LDS told me, Mormons believe in many gods. They believe that all good Mormons can become a "god" over their individual planets. Mormons are told to get baptized in the Mormon Temple, and then get married in the Mormon Temple. In that way, they will be "sealed".
    Furthermore, Mormonism is a money pot for the leaders of the LDS church as all Mormons are mandated to give healthy tithes to their church.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #10 on: February 16, 2020, 07:25:32 PM »
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  • It’s an absolutely satanic religion. Out of my interest in history I went to the Hill cuмorah one day and it really gave me the creeps. I said several prayers and quickly left.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cuмorah
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #11 on: February 24, 2020, 05:44:11 AM »
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  • I had the privilege of learning about the Mormons when I was a seminarian. We went to their Disneyland-esque temple in Washington DC and got a tour.
    I know people throw around the term "Disneyland" left and right these days, but the adjective was quite appropriate in this the 
    The nickname  for the MD temple is Oz.

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    Re: Catholics vs. Mormons
    « Reply #12 on: February 24, 2020, 07:53:16 AM »
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  • We drove by and thought it looked like a mosque.  
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