Author Topic: Catholics for Ron Paul (Read 2366 times)

Thursday · « **on:** September 10, 2011, 10:35:50 AM »

I really don't have much time to pursue this but can't help but thinking that if the Catholic vote was mobilized just a bit we could put MR. Paul in the Whitehouse.

Made this video.

What can you do?

gunfighter · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2011, 01:05:46 PM »

If he wins, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The president and the majority of Congress are selected by the global elites.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2011, 01:50:43 PM »

Quote from: gunfighter

If he wins, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The president and the majority of Congress are selected by the global elites.

Then you ascribe to the theory that, no matter what, we're doomed. Fine. You can be a pessimist, but some of us at least TRY to do something about the current situation. And I believe, that yes, that's really a possibility, but he's putting himself out there, and has been consistent for 30 years in his defense of the constitution (which is the supreme law of the land in this country of ours) and I think that's a pretty good opportunity to scrutinize his voting record, wouldn't you?

He was against NAFTA, and all the "trade agreements" because they weren't really "free trade," they were agreements preparing for "governance zones" from these same elite you're talking about. He was against GATT/DOHA rounds of talks in 1995, establishing the WTO, which is an arm of the elite. He wanted to get us out of the UN, citing the sovereignty of this country would be eroded completely if we were to get involved with it, and he was right about the fact that THIS, TOO, is another arm of the globalist elite. He is against abortion, which the global elite salivate over. He's against forced vaccination, which is something the global elite (Bill Gates, just ONE example) love, because of the sterilization and brain deadness that results from them. I could go on... but HE is a "wolf in sheep's clothing." Well, if he is, he put on a really good show, didn't he? Aside from him being against everything the elite want, what should we read ANYONE that is running for president as that has any kind of momentum? "A shill," "controlled resistance."

Well, to keep some of us from going completely paranoid schitzo on the world, it's nice to HOPE that there's someone out there that ISN'T controlled by the elite.

Ya ever think that maybe there are so many republican shill candidates, to drown out the voice of Ron Paul because they're SCARED TO DEATH of what he could do? Nah, that's just another globalist tactic.

Pat Buchanan was also controlled by the elite, right? Whatever...

Daegus · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2011, 05:10:58 PM »

Quote from: gunfighter

If he wins, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The president and the majority of Congress are selected by the global elites.

Ron Paul is just controlled opposition. This is the same man who has said he doesn't believe 9/11 could have been an inside job and is very pro-Israel (major red flag..). Why do people put any stalk in him? He's almost like a false prophet.

It doesn't matter what RP is "for" or "against" when he actually supports the state of Israel, given his political background. Why does that not bother people? Why doesn't it bother people that every presidential candidate is pro-Israel when the Jєωs of Israel control virtually everything?

This man actually supports the state of Israel. Just because he says "Oh, let's just be FWIENDS with Israel but not give them money" doesn't mean a whole lot. How do we know that he can even be trusted to not give them money if he were elected into the white house?

Come on. No one sees any problem with this?

gunfighter · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2011, 06:11:32 PM »

Pessimistic, not by nature. I believe I am realistic.

The fact is that money buys elections along with a propagandist media. The people that control the US do not need to control every elected official.

Ron Paul may or may not be controlled. If he is elected, it will be strong evidence that he is. Why, because if he is not, they would dump enough money and negative information to defeat him. Don't think that we have enough votes to elect him. The majority of the voters do not agree with us. However, if he did win the primary, and if he is not controlled, then there are a few options. First, he could be killed. Second, the voting machines can be rigged. Third, he could be discredited by a scandal. Fourth, .....

Yes, I believe the country has been taken over. In my opinion, it will take a revolution and a rewriting of the Constitution to get it back.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2011, 09:29:02 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

Quote from: gunfighter
If he wins, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The president and the majority of Congress are selected by the global elites.

Ron Paul is just controlled opposition. This is the same man who has said he doesn't believe 9/11 could have been an inside job and is very pro-Israel (major red flag..). Why do people put any stalk in him? He's almost like a false prophet.

It doesn't matter what RP is "for" or "against" when he actually supports the state of Israel, given his political background. Why does that not bother people? Why doesn't it bother people that every presidential candidate is pro-Israel when the Jєωs of Israel control virtually everything?

This man actually supports the state of Israel. Just because he says "Oh, let's just be FWIENDS with Israel but not give them money" doesn't mean a whole lot. How do we know that he can even be trusted to not give them money if he were elected into the white house?

Come on. No one sees any problem with this?

First, he didn't say that 9/11 couldn't be an inside job. He said he has questions as well, by the way.

Second, he is NOT PRO ISRAHELL! Where are you getting this crap from? Here's a link to a video of one of his answers towards IsraHELL.

To me, that doesn't sound like he wants to even be FRIENDS with them. He said, "If they want to attack people, let them. Leave us out of it. Let's not give them money. Let's stay out of these DUMB foreign entanglements and let Israel take care of Israel."

Problems with that? Also, even if he said we should be "friends" with them, that's not inconsistent with any of the framers of the Constitution. Be friends with people when it's in OUR INTEREST. Basically, the relationship with IsraHELL is one sided: We give them money, we go to wars all around their area to "protect" them... two things Ron Paul is totally against! What is the rest of the relationship? Trade? Well, if the trade is in our benefit, and we didn't have all this "managed trade" like we do now, and it was really "free" and we didn't have a Federal Reserve, regulations, et cetera, making it MORE expensive to employ people in this country, we could even trade with them! He does NOT want our troops anywhere NEAR that area, which would "dampen" our "relationship" with IsraHELL if he had his way. Our problem is not just the foreign aid we're handing out, it's the WARS, and they're expensive, and all on behalf of IsraHELL. His plan would be to bring the troops home-- ALL of them. Where would that leave IsraHELL? Fending for themselves, with none of our money, none of our men. Let IsraHELL deal with IsraHELL.

I don't find his position on IsraHELL the least bit offensive.

The "coronated" candidate for the globalists this time around, is going to be "IsraHELL cheerleader" RICK PERRY. Take a look at these from the last debate...

Ron Paul, in an interview, said that he "didn't recall" when good 'ol boy Rick, put his hand on his arm in the threatening way, and pointed IN HIS FACE...

How do you NOT recall that? I have a feeling he was THREATENED by Perry the flaming globalist. I will also venture to say it may have had something to do with this TV ad attacking Rick Perry in Texas. Watch this...

Think this could have made him angry? I think so.

Think what you want, but the globalists DO NOT LIKE Ron Paul one bit.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2011, 09:42:24 PM »

All the people saying he's "controlled resistance" are going to be eating crow if this guy gets murdered. Mark my words: If Ron Paul is αssαssιnαtҽd, either during the campaign or after, if he miraculously wins, the people accusing him of being "controlled" are going to be really inserting their foots in their mouths.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2011, 09:42:28 PM »

Ron Paul is against those who criticize a mosque being put near Ground Zero. His views on marijuana and his "freedom for everyone" approach are also ridiculous. That being said, next to Rick Sanctorum he's the best candidate to choose from. But the government won't let him be the final Republican pick, it will be either Mitt Romney or Rick Perry, both of who are frauds.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:03:57 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Ron Paul is against those who criticize a mosque being put near Ground Zero.

...... and? :confused1:

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:06:25 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

All the people saying he's "controlled resistance" are going to be eating crow if this guy gets murdered. Mark my words: If Ron Paul is αssαssιnαtҽd, either during the campaign or after, if he miraculously wins, the people accusing him of being "controlled" are going to be really inserting their foots in their mouths.

They are not going to αssαssιnαtҽ him. That would be a vindication by blood on everything that he stated in the past. You think they want to make a martyr for a patriot movement? Any such action would encourage his followers, create further tension between the people and government, and bring us a leap closer to cινιℓ ωαr.

They want us gone as quietly as possible.

gunfighter · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2011, 10:11:18 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

Quote from: parentsfortruth
All the people saying he's "controlled resistance" are going to be eating crow if this guy gets murdered. Mark my words: If Ron Paul is αssαssιnαtҽd, either during the campaign or after, if he miraculously wins, the people accusing him of being "controlled" are going to be really inserting their foots in their mouths.

They are not going to αssαssιnαtҽ him. That would be a vindication by blood on everything that he stated in the past. You think they want to make a martyr for a patriot movement? Any such action would encourage his followers, create further tension between the people and government, and bring us a leap closer to cινιℓ ωαr.

They want us gone as quietly as possible.

I think a cινιℓ ωαr may be what they want.

In addition, there would not be any vindication if the assassin was a Tea Partier.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2011, 11:22:24 PM »

I agree.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2011, 04:16:09 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Ron Paul is against those who criticize a mosque being put near Ground Zero.

...... and? :confused1:

And we would want a false-worship place put there because?

gunfighter · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2011, 05:26:45 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Ron Paul is against those who criticize a mosque being put near Ground Zero.

...... and? :confused1:

And we would want a false-worship place put there because?

Catholicism and the free-masonic principles America was founded upon are not anywhere near the same. In a Catholic country, free speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion would not be enshrined in law. As a Catholic, I do not want a Muslim place of worship in New York. In fact, I do not want a Muslim mosque, Protestant church, Novus Ordo church, Hindu temple, Buddhist temple, Jєωιѕн temple anywhere in the country. They all are false religions and should not be allowed.

That being said, living in America, I follow American laws. No politician is going to support passing laws that support only the true faith. In this environment, Ron Paul's position is the one that is in line with the Constitution. I hate the slippery slope argument, but if you ban certain churches based upon public sentiment, it can be used against Traditional Catholics. I guarantee that every Novus Ordo church within the vicinity of a Traditional Catholic chapel would cry that we are offensive to their religion.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:12:19 PM »

Quote from: gunfighter

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Ron Paul is against those who criticize a mosque being put near Ground Zero.

...... and? :confused1:

And we would want a false-worship place put there because?

Catholicism and the free-masonic principles America was founded upon are not anywhere near the same. In a Catholic country, free speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion would not be enshrined in law. As a Catholic, I do not want a Muslim place of worship in New York. In fact, I do not want a Muslim mosque, Protestant church, Novus Ordo church, Hindu temple, Buddhist temple, Jєωιѕн temple anywhere in the country. They all are false religions and should not be allowed.

That being said, living in America, I follow American laws. No politician is going to support passing laws that support only the true faith. In this environment, Ron Paul's position is the one that is in line with the Constitution. I hate the slippery slope argument, but if you ban certain churches based upon public sentiment, it can be used against Traditional Catholics. I guarantee that every Novus Ordo church within the vicinity of a Traditional Catholic chapel would cry that we are offensive to their religion.

What he said SS.