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Offline Nonno

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« on: June 27, 2011, 12:18:18 AM »
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  • It is incredible how you can still find people who make the claim that Catholicism is racist against Jєωs. You only have to ask such people how can they possible say that considering Jesus Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary and all the Apostles were of that race.


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    « Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 07:12:08 AM »
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  • Straight thinking is not a strength of moderns, or of fallen men in general.  Let us be thankful that many are finally waking up to the fact that the Zionαzιs are lying, murderous thieves.

    BTW, Nonno, welcome to the site :)
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    « Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 08:17:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nonno
    It is incredible how you can still find people who make the claim that Catholicism is racist against Jєωs. You only have to ask such people how can they possible say that considering Jesus Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary and all the Apostles were of that race.


    There are Catholics who give every appearance of being anti-semitic.  I find the confusion understandable, not absurd at all.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 09:00:14 AM »
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  • Catholics are not Catholicism, but the confusion of which you speak, Jayne, is understandable because fallen men, myself included, are, at times, easily confused.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 09:25:05 AM »
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  • That is a good point, Jaynek. There is a huge confusion, and it is such an emotional issue most don't want to stop to clear it up, even when you try to make the proper distinctions.

    The word "Jєω" has basically two different meanings. One meaning is purely religious, the other biological. Catholicism is against Judaism, as any other false religion. Some people may emotionally call Catholicism antisemitic for that reason, which is most clearly mistaken.

    Judaism is unique among false religions. It is so closely bound to race because originally God designed the true religion to be preserved among that specific race. After the Redemption, Judaism should have given way to Christianity as a caterpillar gives way to becoming a butterfly, and the true religion to be open to all men without regard to race - universal. However, those Jєωs insisting on sticking with so-called Judaism (without a biologically traceable priesthood any longer), became тαℓмυdic, and particularly anti-Christian in character.  It wasn't until around the 18th or 19th centuries when Jєωs started up other branches, such as "Reformed Judaism" and even though they were basically non-religious and even atheistic, it became sort of "religious nationalism", keeping a semblance of race & holiness alive, and still being very anti-Christian.

    This is where the major confusion comes in - even Jєωs brought up in families of atheistic Jєωs are brought up in handed-down/instilled anti-Christian attitudes based upon family sociological heredity. Statistically these Jєωs are also feared, but it is not because of "blood" that they are. It is because of what they happen to believe in that was naturally instilled by parents and their parents' parents, etc.

    Today, however, this is very much thinned out, and the statistical fears are much lower.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 09:44:01 AM »
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  • Nonno, I think that is a good analysis of the confusion.  And I also agree with GV's point about fallen human nature.  

    I look at this issue from the perspective of a person who was born and raised Jєωιѕн.  After a few years as a Protestant, I became Catholic in my early 20s.  So I have personally experienced that Jєωs need conversion.  I strongly disagree with those who call it anti-semitic to say that Jєωs must accept Jesus Christ for salvation.

    If all Catholic talk about Jєωs were focused on their need for salvation, I would have no concerns.  I am concerned with people talking about Jєωs running the world and having all the power and being evil, untrustworthy and greedy.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 10:00:41 AM »
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  • Quote from: Jaynek
    I am concerned with people talking about Jєωs running the world and having all the power and being evil, untrustworthy and greedy.


    If someone believes there is dominating Jєωιѕн power that is working on the wrecking of Christian society do you believe that is a sign of hatred?

    I recommend you read Richard F. Burton's The Jєω, the Gypsy and El Islam and Ariel Toaff's Bloody Passovers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Toaff
    The Jєω the Gypsy and El Islam
    http://www.bloodpassover.com/

    In fact most of Richard F. Burton's book (about the Damacus Trial) was suppressed and the manuscript was acquired and remains in the hands of Jєωs to this day.

    FYI Sedetrad is also someone who is ethnically Jєωιѕн.


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    « Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 10:09:18 AM »
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    I am concerned with people talking about Jєωs running the world and having all the power and being evil, untrustworthy and greedy.


    The Judaics are concerned about it, too, because it is making it harder for them to complete the final stages of their ages-long plot.

    These things are facts, Jayne, easily proved from Judaic docuмents.  It is not called the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan for nothing.
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    « Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 10:13:48 AM »
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    If someone believes there is dominating Jєωιѕн power that is working on the wrecking of Christian society do you believe that is a sign of hatred?


    Historically these beliefs are associated with people who feel the must defend themselves from this alleged Jєωιѕн power, often by violent means.  And the conclusion follows logically enough from the premise.  If Jєωs were a threat to Christianity, then we would have a right, even a duty to destroy them.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 10:15:37 AM »
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    I am concerned with people talking about Jєωs running the world and having all the power and being evil, untrustworthy and greedy.


    The Judaics are concerned about it, too, because it is making it harder for them to complete the final stages of their ages-long plot.

    These things are facts, Jayne, easily proved from Judaic docuмents.  It is not called the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan for nothing.


    And what do you think is the solution to this problem?

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    « Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 10:16:14 AM »
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    Historically these beliefs are associated with people who feel the must defend themselves from this alleged Jєωιѕн power, often by violent means.  And the conclusion follows logically enough from the premise.  If Jєωs were a threat to Christianity, then we would have a right, even a duty to destroy them.


    No, limiting their power to harm does not mean destroying them.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 27, 2011, 10:18:13 AM »
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  • It is not "alleged", Jayne.  It is an easily-discoverable fact.  Who created WWs 1 and 2, and for what reasons?  WHo is now arranging WW3 and for what reasons?  Who do you think controls fiance?  It isn't the Irish.  Do you grasp how enormous it is to control the financial strings of the world?  The Judaic system has brought the entire world to the brink of destruction.  Read what the Popes said about the Judaics, who habitually pay kindness back like the proverbial rat in the sack (that phrase is not my own, but is from one of the Pontiffs).
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    « Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 10:37:45 AM »
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  • What do you who believe this about Jєωs propose to do about it?  How are you going to contain this threat?  How are you going to stop these people you think are evil?

    And while you are taking these steps, what are you going to do that will help them to understand that Christ is the Saviour of humanity and they must accept Him?

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    « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2011, 10:45:33 AM »
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    What do you who believe this about Jєωs propose to do about it?  How are you going to contain this threat?  How are you going to stop these people you think are evil?


    Well the first thing is to let people know the facts about things so that they are no  blind to what is going on in the world.

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    And while you are taking these steps, what are you going to do that will help them to understand that Christ is the Saviour of humanity and they must accept Him?


    That's a good question, it's not easy to oppose Jєωs and evangelize them, but if they can be convinced of certain facts about the world and recognize the evils that a relatively small group of leading Jєωs are perpetrating, then the terrible fear of persecution that they are raised with can be moderated, and they can themselves can help to resist this rising spirit of Antichrist that the Church contends with.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 27, 2011, 10:55:51 AM »
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  • Quote from: Jaynek
    What do you who believe this about Jєωs propose to do about it?


    IMO, it is too late in the game to do much of consequence.  Our forefathers allowed themselves to be ensnared and this will not stop until the Chastisement and the restoration that will follow.

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    How are you going to contain this threat?


    Again, it is too late.

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    How are you going to stop these people you think are evil?


    Just so we are clear, no one is saying all of the individuals are evil, Jayne.  The overall ideology is certainly demonic and has perverted the formerly-Christian West.

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    And while you are taking these steps, what are you going to do that will help them to understand that Christ is the Saviour of humanity and they must accept Him?


    Such a thing can only be accomplished in a case-by-case manner.  For my part, I seek to do the truth in charity as well as I can.  For the most part, however, their blindness and hardness of heart will not be overcome until the Chastisement has run its course.

    Those with ears to hear will be led, by the grace of God, to the truth.  This is happening more and more each day.

    Opposition to the тαℓмυdic Zionαzιs and their satanic ideology is not the same thing as opposition to individuals who have been raised, completely or partially, under the influence thereof.  As hard as it is to pull off in the practical order, it is possible to hate the evil ideas and love those who are deluded by them.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."