Author Topic: Catholic Hospital - Fetus not a person! (Read 1174 times)

Matthew · « **on:** January 26, 2013, 12:07:13 PM »

Canon City, Colorado (CNN) -- Life begins at conception, according to the Catholic Church, but in a wrongful death suit in Colorado, a Catholic health care company has argued just the opposite.
A fetus is not legally a person until it is born, the hospital's lawyers have claimed in its defense. And now it may be up to the state's Supreme Court to decide.
Lori Stodghill was 28 weeks pregnant when she went to the emergency room of St. Thomas More Hospital in Canon City vomiting and short of breath, according to a court docuмent.
She went into cardiac arrest in the lobby.
"Lori looked up at me, and then her head went down on her chest," said her husband, Jeremy Stodghill.
She died at age 31. Her unborn twin boys perished with her. That was New Year's Day 2006.
Stodghill, left behind to raise their then-2-year-old daughter alone, sued the hospital and its owner, Catholic Health Initiatives, for the wrongful deaths of all three.
After about two years of litigation, defense attorneys for the hospital and doctors entered an argument that shocked the widower.
They said that under state law, an embryo is not person until it is born alive, according to court docuмents. The Stodghills' twins were deceased when they were removed from their mother's lifeless body.
"I didn't even get to hold them," Jeremy Stodghill said. "I have an autopsy picture. That's all I've got."
The court agreed with the argument, and Stodghill lost the suit. The court also ruled against Stodghill in the case of his wife for other legal reasons.
The hospital and doctors then sued him for over $118,000 legal fees and attempted to garnish his wages, according to a legal docuмent filed on his behalf.
The defendants offered to forget the fees if Stodghill dropped his appeal. He refused and filed for bankruptcy to avoid having to pay the claim, which he says he can't afford as he struggles to raise his now-9-year-old daughter, Libby.
Stodghill has petitioned the Colorado Supreme Court to hear his case, and he'd like to hear from the Catholic Church.
Representatives of the Catholic bishops of Colorado declined to comment on the legal proceedings, but said they will review the litigation and Catholic Health Initiatives' practices "to ensure fidelity and faithful witness to the teachings of the Catholic Church."
Stodghill wears a tattoo on his chest with his unborn sons' footprints, their names and the words "our sons."
He wants the church and his state to see them the same way.

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** January 26, 2013, 12:10:57 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Lori Stodghill was 28 weeks pregnant when she went to the emergency room of St. Thomas More Hospital in Canon City vomiting and short of breath, according to a court docuмent.
She went into cardiac arrest in the lobby.
"Lori looked up at me, and then her head went down on her chest," said her husband, Jeremy Stodghill.
She died at age 31. Her unborn twin boys perished with her. That was New Year's Day 2006.

Wow. What happened to her? Sounds like she was attacked with a biological agent or something, or at least some kind of poisoning. 31 is not old!

I mean, most people who die of OLD AGE don't die in this manner! Vomiting, shortness of breath, then a heart attack?

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 26, 2013, 12:14:04 PM »

Not that I support tattoos but the fetus is definitely a human being and anyone who says otherwise has no descent morality.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #3 on:** January 26, 2013, 12:37:58 PM »

:shocked:

Catholic hospital tries to make this poor soul pay almost $200,000 after his family is wiped out.

I wonder if he was able to keep his Faith after all that. I'll bet there was no priest on duty to Baptise the twins.

My Dad was recently in the hospital, really touch-and-go situation. The weather was just horrible, which would mean impossible traffic jams in this area..we made it to see him, and at least get a priests in to hear his Confession. This (formerly) Catholic hospital has a giant beautiful statue of Our Lady in front. I asked if I could meet the Catholic priest on duty, because you never know around here--sometimes there are very good old N.O.priests around and about.

The man in charge told me they have a chaplain [syncretist] who will do any religion; he is trained to do all religions. It would be so easy to trick people into thinking they are getting what only a priest can give. It's diabolical.

The situation with Death, which will touch each and every one of us, is absolutely DESPERATE.

alaric · « **Reply #4 on:** January 26, 2013, 12:49:20 PM »

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Quote from: Matthew

Lori Stodghill was 28 weeks pregnant when she went to the emergency room of St. Thomas More Hospital in Canon City vomiting and short of breath, according to a court docuмent.
She went into cardiac arrest in the lobby.
"Lori looked up at me, and then her head went down on her chest," said her husband, Jeremy Stodghill.
She died at age 31. Her unborn twin boys perished with her. That was New Year's Day 2006.

Wow. What happened to her? Sounds like she was attacked with a biological agent or something, or at least some kind of poisoning. 31 is not old!

I mean, most people who die of OLD AGE don't die in this manner! Vomiting, shortness of breath, then a heart attack?

Yes, this most crucial part of the story is conveniently left out.

alaric · « **Reply #5 on:** January 26, 2013, 12:52:25 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

:shocked:

Catholic hospital tries to make this poor soul pay almost $200,000 after his family is wiped out.
I wonder if he was able to keep his Faith after all that. I'll bet there was no priest on duty to Baptise the twins.

My Dad was recently in the hospital, really touch-and-go situation. The weather was just horrible, which would mean impossible traffic jams in this area..we made it to see him, and at least get a priests in to hear his Confession. This (formerly) Catholic hospital has a giant beautiful statue of Our Lady in front. I asked if I could meet the Catholic priest on duty, because you never know around here--sometimes there are very good old N.O.priests around and about.

The man in charge told me they have a chaplain [syncretist] who will do any religion; he is trained to do all religions. It would be so easy to trick people into thinking they are getting what only a priest can give. It's diabolical.

The situation with Death, which will touch each and every one of us, is absolutely DESPERATE.

You have to understand that these instituions, like the universities are by nature CINO's these days. (Catholic in name only).

Catholicism means nothing to these people, money is their god.

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** January 26, 2013, 01:02:27 PM »

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Lori Stodghill was 28 weeks pregnant when she went to the emergency room of St. Thomas More Hospital in Canon City vomiting and short of breath, according to a court docuмent.
She went into cardiac arrest in the lobby.
"Lori looked up at me, and then her head went down on her chest," said her husband, Jeremy Stodghill.
She died at age 31. Her unborn twin boys perished with her. That was New Year's Day 2006.

Wow. What happened to her? Sounds like she was attacked with a biological agent or something, or at least some kind of poisoning. 31 is not old!

I mean, most people who die of OLD AGE don't die in this manner! Vomiting, shortness of breath, then a heart attack?
Yes, this most crucial part of the story is conveniently left out.

The more I think about it, the stranger it seems.

I mean, if this woman had a birth defect or something, she should have been dead long ago. But if she lived till 31, she shouldn't have died in this manner. It sounds like acute poisoning of some sort, though I'll admit I don't work in a hospital.

alaric · « **Reply #7 on:** January 26, 2013, 01:07:07 PM »

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Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: Matthew

Lori Stodghill was 28 weeks pregnant when she went to the emergency room of St. Thomas More Hospital in Canon City vomiting and short of breath, according to a court docuмent.
She went into cardiac arrest in the lobby.
"Lori looked up at me, and then her head went down on her chest," said her husband, Jeremy Stodghill.
She died at age 31. Her unborn twin boys perished with her. That was New Year's Day 2006.

Wow. What happened to her? Sounds like she was attacked with a biological agent or something, or at least some kind of poisoning. 31 is not old!

I mean, most people who die of OLD AGE don't die in this manner! Vomiting, shortness of breath, then a heart attack?
Yes, this most crucial part of the story is conveniently left out.

The more I think about it, the stranger it seems.

I mean, if this woman had a birth defect or something, she should have been dead long ago. But if she lived till 31, she shouldn't have died in this manner. It sounds like acute poisoning of some sort, though I'll admit I don't work in a hospital.

I don't know, but you're right the whole thing is very strange.

Of course, like most typical yellow journalism, we're only getting half the story.

I'm beginning to about what type of medications she might have been taking.

A lot of young people have been dropping dead early from being over proscribed these days.

Maria Elizabeth · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2013, 04:48:08 PM »

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/hbp/hbp_preg.htm

What Is Preeclampsia?
Preeclampsia is a condition that typically starts after the 20th week of pregnancy and is related to increased blood pressure and protein in the mother's urine (as a result of kidney problems). Preeclampsia affects the placenta, and it can affect the mother's kidney, liver, and brain. When preeclampsia causes seizures, the condition is known as eclampsia--the second leading cause of maternal death in the U.S. Preeclampsia is also a leading cause of fetal complications, which include low birth weight, premature birth, and stillbirth.

There is no proven way to prevent preeclampsia. Most women who develop signs of preeclampsia, however, are closely monitored to lessen or avoid related problems. The only way to "cure" preeclampsia is to deliver the baby.

How Common Are High Blood Pressure and Preeclampsia in Pregnancy?
High blood pressure problems occur in 6 percent to 8 percent of all pregnancies in the U.S., about 70 percent of which are first-time pregnancies. In 1998, more than 146,320 cases of preeclampsia alone were diagnosed.

Although the proportion of pregnancies with gestational hypertension and eclampsia has remained about the same in the U.S. over the past decade, the rate of preeclampsia has increased by nearly one-third. This increase is due in part to a rise in the numbers of older mothers and of multiple births, where preeclampsia occurs more frequently. For example, in 1998 birth rates among women ages 30 to 44 and the number of births to women ages 45 and older were at the highest levels in 3 decades, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Furthermore, between 1980 and 1998, rates of twin births increased about 50 percent overall and 1,000 percent among women ages 45 to 49; rates of triplet and other higher-order multiple births jumped more than 400 percent overall, and 1,000 percent among women in their 40s.

Who Is More Likely to Develop Preeclampsia?
Women with chronic hypertension (high blood pressure before becoming pregnant).
Women who developed high blood pressure or preeclampsia during a previous pregnancy, especially if these conditions occurred early in the pregnancy.
Women who are obese prior to pregnancy.
Pregnant women under the age of 20 or over the age of 40.
Women who are pregnant with more than one baby.
Women with diabetes, kidney disease, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, or scleroderma.

How Is Preeclampsia Detected?
Unfortunately, there is no single test to predict or diagnose preeclampsia. Key signs are increased blood pressure and protein in the urine (proteinuria). Other symptoms that seem to occur with preeclampsia include persistent headaches, blurred vision or sensitivity to light, and abdominal pain.

All of these sensations can be caused by other disorders; they can also occur in healthy pregnancies. Regular visits with your doctor help him or her to track your blood pressure and level of protein in your urine, to order and analyze blood tests that detect signs of preeclampsia, and to monitor fetal development more closely.