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Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:06:42 PM »
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  • "Dear Faithful,

    The world is being whipped to a frenzy of fear and anxiety over this corona virus. The media is full of lies, the politicians lie, the wealthy do-gooders lie, and they have successfully introduced tyranny by their control of the majority who are willing deceived. People have always gotten sick and died. We know and all the worldlings also know that one day they will die. No one beats death. Only some very rich people are spending great sums of money trying to stay alive forever. The Grim Reaper reaps where he will. God is the Master of death as well as of life.

    St. Paul gives us the attitude of the Christian who loves God and loves his neighbour: “For to me, to live is Christ; and to die is gain. And if to live in the flesh, this is to me the fruit of labour, and what I shall choose I know not. But I am straitened between two: having a desire to be dissolved and to be with Christ, a thing by far the better. But to abide still in the flesh, is needful for you. And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide, and continue with you all, for your furtherance and joy of faith:” — Philippians 1, 21f

    St. Paul knows that it is better to die and be with Christ but because he is still needed in this world he will stay. Death is something to be looked forward to as a step to eternal life.
    Social distancing, face masks, self-isolation and lock-down are against human nature. God made us social creatures. Rugged individualism is a myth promulgated by the freemasons. Men are made to live in society with one another. Families are the building blocks from which larger societies are made, not individuals. The Church desires to multiply ties between Christian families so that we have a more robust society.

    Because we are made of body and soul our nature demands physical contact with one another, handshakes, hugs, kisses, etc. are normal and natural. Social distancing is a crime against our nature. Likewise, we need to see one another. Children are taught “look at me when I am talking to you.” Facial expressions are a natural part of communication. We communicate anger, joy, doubt, sadness, etc. by our facial expressions. We need to see each other’s face to be truly human. Face Masks are against human nature. Self-isolation is obviously unnatural. Lock-down is tyranny. We quarantine highly contagious sick people. We do not quarantine healthy people.
    Healthy people visit and care for the sick. That is also normal and natural. They understand that they also might get sick but if they can help someone else charitable Catholics do it. Throughout history healthy people have always had contact with sick people. This is normal, this is part of our nature.

    What about frail people? Should they be isolated, so they don’t get sick and die? No, of course not. It is a great sin against natural justice to not allow the elderly in nursing homes to socialise with one another. To tell them you cannot have friends or social relations. It is an even greater crime to forbid visits from family and religious. A sin directly against the 4th commandment. Especially since modern nursing homes, driven by financial gain, do not have the staff to give adequate care to their residents. They depend on the many family volunteers. Some residents will starve to death because the staff hasn’t the time and patience to feed them. The unnatural isolation and loneliness will cause mental health problems for others. Catholics with strong faith would accept these conditions as reparation for their sins, but I suspect that very few of these frail elderly people will benefit from these crosses. If they have a more normal life some might get sick and die. We actually don’t know that more would die than would have died anyway. But let us presume that that is the case. Well, so what? Their time in this vale of tears is finished. If they die with a priest and their family at their bedside, they can very well die a holy death and merit eternal life.

    It is those with little faith and pagans and infidels who have a great fear of sickness and death. During the plague in Christian Europe those with true charity and great faith were caring for the sick and dying. Many of them caught the disease and died themselves. They accepted this risk because they loved God and their neighbour and did not fear sickness and death. The ones with little faith and consequently little charity loved their life in this world and avoided contact with the plague stricken. Many of them survived. After the plague the Faith was much weaker throughout Europe than it had been before because the heroes had died; the mediocre Catholics survived. Hugh Akins relates that in a procession through Rome organised by St. Gregory the Great to end the plague that 80 persons died. This demonstrates that the healthy and the plague-stricken were united in trying to appease the wrath of God. God’s wrath was appeased, and the plague immediately ended. St. Michael appeared and sheathed his sword. Undoubtedly the timid and fearful avoided this procession striving to remain healthy.

    St. Paul teaches, supra, that death and eternal life are far better than life in this world. To desire to die and go to heaven is normal for good Catholics. They generously accept the sickness and frailty that comes at the end of life but as St. Paul they realise that death and eternal life is far better and long for heaven. Those who don’t long for heaven have little hope. In some stories of souls in Purgatory we read that they are suffering in that place of torments because they did not desire heaven enough. They wanted to hang on to their life in this world like the pagans and infidels who have no hope.
    Therefore, we should avoid social distancing, isolating, face masks and the like as much as possible. If we cannot ride the train or bus without a face mask, we will be obliged to wear one. But we need to make efforts to live as the normal social beings that we are and to care for sick friends and relatives. Unfortunately, many of our friends and family members who are habitually brain-washed by the media will oppose us. Because they lack Faith and don’t look forward to heaven, they will demand that we fear sickness and death. We must live with them as well so may be obliged to take part in some of this bizarre behaviour.

    This is a world-wide coordinated effort by all nations showing the power that the rulers of this world have over all governments and civil societies. Today’s Sanhedrin hate the Catholic Church with the same hatred that their predecessors had for Our Lord. They have successfully prevented many people from participating in Holy Week ceremonies depriving God of honour due to Him and the Faithful of the many blessings they would have gained. Another victory for them. But their strength is only because we are weak. We are weak because the hierarchy of the Church is faithless. Peter needs to convert and then convert his brethren. We need to pray for them, and we should join the Rosary Crusade for the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary."

    Regina Coeli Laetare, Alleluia
    Fr. MacDonald
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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #1 on: April 18, 2020, 12:10:55 PM »
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  • I think we can all agree that the MAINSTREAM MEDIA is not Catholic, and thus they are not going to have a proper CATHOLIC attitude towards sickness, suffering, and death.

    Therefore they are almost certain to push MORE FEAR THAN WE SHOULD HAVE, and they would have us just as fearful as themselves.

    Regardless of the real danger posed by this virus, there are certainly concerted efforts being made to panic the people, push this thing hard, and change the world into their own vision of a "utopia" as much as they can. Many agendas are being implemented.

    I saw a photo in the mainstream news a few days ago -- an elderly couple was having grandchildren visit them, perform for them, or something -- they sat outside on lawn chairs, the grandkids were like 75 feet away, but the couple still had facemasks on for good measure! I wish I had saved the picture; it really captured the insanity that the MSM has propagated into MOST minds, including many of us here on CI.

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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #2 on: April 18, 2020, 12:12:42 PM »
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  • P.S.

    My late grandmother used to be a real news junkie; she'd watch the news all day. I remember she was very brainwashed about 9/11.

    I bet many good people today are similarly brainwashed by the media about how we should respond to "COVID19".

    Moral of the story: LIMIT YOUR CONSUMPTION OF MEDIA, especially the mainstream variety. Don't soak it in like a junkie.

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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #3 on: April 18, 2020, 12:17:23 PM »
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    That elderly couple I mentioned with the facemasks -- unless they were concerned about spreading COVID19 to their grandkids, they shouldn't have bothered. If they thought they were at risk of catching COVID19 from 75 feet away, they still could catch it with the masks on.

    A bunch of Americans are probably stupid enough to believe that wearing a cloth mask prevents the virus from entering your body if it's airborne. Not even close. It will go into your eyeballs just as easily as your mouth or nose. Also, those cute little cloth masks everyone's making on Etsy and Facebook are not N95 masks. Plenty of smaller particles go right through them. Cotton masks just block water vapor, sneezes, spit, etc. from going into the air when you sneeze, cough, or breathe. Virus can still go in/out of the mask.
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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #4 on: April 18, 2020, 12:47:12 PM »
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  • Moral of the story: LIMIT YOUR CONSUMPTION OF MEDIA, especially the mainstream variety. Don't soak it in like a junkie.

    Yes, we cannot trust the mainstream media. But can we trust citizen reporters with youtube channels?
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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #5 on: April 18, 2020, 01:04:27 PM »
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    That elderly couple I mentioned with the facemasks ...
    Way, way back in March, they told us not to wear masks because it didn't do any good with respect to preventing the spread of the virus.  Now, they are practically commanding people to wear masks.

    What changed?  I've not seen or heard one explanation.  The narrative changed overnight without explanation.

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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #6 on: April 18, 2020, 02:45:16 PM »
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  • I disagree with this statement in the OP
    It is a great sin against natural justice to not allow the elderly in nursing homes to socialise with one another. To tell them you cannot have friends or social relations. It is a great sin against natural justice to not allow the elderly in nursing homes to socialise with one another.

    My response
    We know that we are dealing with a Chinese Communist bio-weapon known to target the weak and aged. Is is being greatly exaggerated by globalists to seize control and attempt to force a vaccine on us? Of course, but that does not negate the reality of this covert warfare by an evil regime which permited 5 million people from Wuhan to fly to the US, Italy, Spain and France, but did NOT PERMIT them to travel anywhere in China.


    This priest's outlook needs to be in balance with the Catholic truth that our bodies are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Many of the actual covid deaths have been in nursing homes. It would be negligent for a nursing home, during the spread of the Chinese Communist bio-weapon known to target the weak and aged, to encourage the weak and aged to socialize with each other.

    Visitors are being outlawed and that's wrong. Visitors can wear protective eyewear and N95 masks to protect their loved ones.
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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #7 on: April 18, 2020, 03:33:37 PM »
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  • Visitors are being outlawed and that's wrong. Visitors can wear protective eyewear and N95 masks to protect their loved ones.
    Does it really matter what we try to do to protect those in nursing homes?
    In a video that you posted, the Doctor asks the question, "how many people in nursing homes have had past flu shots?"
    Where I live you can't be a resident in or work in a nursing home unless you have your shots every year.
    My question is, have these previous flu? shots paved the way for susceptibility to this virus? (stage 2?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGbYHJcMbz8&feature=youtu.be

    Dr. Rashid Buttar on Covid as a coverup for 5G damage.
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    Re: Catholic attitude towards Coronavirus COVID19
    « Reply #8 on: April 18, 2020, 07:06:06 PM »
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  • It is a great sin against natural justice to not allow the elderly in nursing homes to socialise with one another. To tell them you cannot have friends or social relations. It is an even greater crime to forbid visits from family and religious. 
    An upright naturally attitude - let alone "Catholic attitude" - would be to keep elderly out of nursing homes. Children should take care of aging parents at home (of the child or parent). As a consequence, social visits would not be an issue.