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Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2023, 12:04:41 PM »
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  • The retraction of Orestes Brownson:



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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
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  • Here is an example  of Newman's influence:

    This is from the 2004 book called The Minding of Planet Earth by the Irish philosopher, theologian, writer and international speaker, Cardinal Cathal Daly (1917-2009), a clerical defender of Galileo; a book produced by the Irish Catholic Church’s publishing body. Commenting on the ex-Jesuit Annibale Fantoli’s work For Copernicanism and for the Church, 1995, Cardinal Daly wrote:

    ‘This book is a very detailed and remarkably balanced study, putting the Galileo “affair” in its historical context and bringing its history right up to its latest phase in the papacy of Pope John Paul II. Galileo emerges as a decisive figure, not simply in an historical conflict between science and religion, but also, and paradoxically, in the process towards greater mutual respect and understanding between the Church and science. For Galileo Galilei it was never a question of choosing between Copernican science and the Christian and Catholic faith; he remained, to the end of his life, deeply committed to both. Indeed, Galileo, particularly by his reflections on the interpretations of Holy Scripture, hoped to bring about reconciliation between faith and science. A man of unwavering faith in the truth of divine revelation, he also believed strongly in the unity of truth and was convinced that what was proved true by science could not conflict with the truth revealed in Holy Scripture correctly understood; and this, of course, is a profoundly Catholic position… Echoing Pope Leo XIII’s 1893 encyclical Providentissimus Deus, the same Vatican II declared: “the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching firmly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into the sacred writings for the sake of our salvation.” The Constitution owes much of course, to the great work of Catholic scholars since the beginning of the 20th century. If the theologians who advised the Inquisition and who opposed Galileo could have had the benefit of the Vatican II’s teaching, there might never have been a Galileo case. Indeed, if they could have had the benefit of Cardinal John Henry Newman’s thinking, there might never have been a Galileo case. I have to add that if Galileo’s own principles of exegesis as set out in his Letter to Castelli and Christina had been followed by the theologians of the time, there might never have been a Galileo case. The “Galileo Affair” remains, as Fantoli says in his book, “a severe lesson in humility to the Church and a warning, no less rigorous, to the Church, not to repeat in the present or in the future the errors of the past, even the most recent past.” That such words, and a book about Galileo so frank and honest as his, could be published by the Vatican Observatory and printed by the Vatican Press, is one further augury, promising a new era of constructive and mutually enriching dialogue between Church and science.’ 

    There you have it in a nutshell, the full bundle of sophistry offered to Catholics worldwide for centuries, similar to the atheist R. G. Ingersoll’s version and others found in thousands of Catholic and secular books, websites, articles, and lectures. ‘Proven true by science’ Cardinal Brady says; when physicists have long admitted it was never ‘proven true.’ Galileo is, as usual, elevated from the perjuring ‘suspected’ heretic of 1616-1633 who swore to God he was not a heliocentrist, to a Catholic martyr, correcting the Biblical geocentrism of all the Fathers; of Trent, and the popes and theologians of his time, when insisting that heliocentrism is what the Bible really meant. Note how Cardinal Daly ended his illusion, agreeing with Fantoli that the ‘Church’ that defended the geocentrism of Scripture was wrong and that Galileo taught it “a severe lesson in humility, and a warning, no less rigorous, to the Church, not to repeat in the present or in the future the errors of the past.” Cardinal Cathal Daly, a peritus at Vatican II, served as Primate of Ireland and Archbishop of Armagh from 1990 to 1996 when Catholics were leaving his post-Vatican II Church in their droves.


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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #62 on: May 12, 2023, 12:23:33 PM »
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  • Here is an example  of Newman's influence:

    This is from the 2004 book called The Minding of Planet Earth by the Irish philosopher, theologian, writer and international speaker, Cardinal Cathal Daly (1917-2009), a clerical defender of Galileo; a book produced by the Irish Catholic Church’s publishing body. Commenting on the ex-Jesuit Annibale Fantoli’s work For Copernicanism and for the Church, 1995, Cardinal Daly wrote:

    ‘This book is a very detailed and remarkably balanced study, putting the Galileo “affair” in its historical context and bringing its history right up to its latest phase in the papacy of Pope John Paul II. Galileo emerges as a decisive figure, not simply in an historical conflict between science and religion, but also, and paradoxically, in the process towards greater mutual respect and understanding between the Church and science. For Galileo Galilei it was never a question of choosing between Copernican science and the Christian and Catholic faith; he remained, to the end of his life, deeply committed to both. Indeed, Galileo, particularly by his reflections on the interpretations of Holy Scripture, hoped to bring about reconciliation between faith and science. A man of unwavering faith in the truth of divine revelation, he also believed strongly in the unity of truth and was convinced that what was proved true by science could not conflict with the truth revealed in Holy Scripture correctly understood; and this, of course, is a profoundly Catholic position… Echoing Pope Leo XIII’s 1893 encyclical Providentissimus Deus, the same Vatican II declared: “the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching firmly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into the sacred writings for the sake of our salvation.” The Constitution owes much of course, to the great work of Catholic scholars since the beginning of the 20th century. If the theologians who advised the Inquisition and who opposed Galileo could have had the benefit of the Vatican II’s teaching, there might never have been a Galileo case. Indeed, if they could have had the benefit of Cardinal John Henry Newman’s thinking, there might never have been a Galileo case. I have to add that if Galileo’s own principles of exegesis as set out in his Letter to Castelli and Christina had been followed by the theologians of the time, there might never have been a Galileo case. The “Galileo Affair” remains, as Fantoli says in his book, “a severe lesson in humility to the Church and a warning, no less rigorous, to the Church, not to repeat in the present or in the future the errors of the past, even the most recent past.” That such words, and a book about Galileo so frank and honest as his, could be published by the Vatican Observatory and printed by the Vatican Press, is one further augury, promising a new era of constructive and mutually enriching dialogue between Church and science.’ 

    There you have it in a nutshell, the full bundle of sophistry offered to Catholics worldwide for centuries, similar to the atheist R. G. Ingersoll’s version and others found in thousands of Catholic and secular books, websites, articles, and lectures. ‘Proven true by science’ Cardinal Brady says; when physicists have long admitted it was never ‘proven true.’ Galileo is, as usual, elevated from the perjuring ‘suspected’ heretic of 1616-1633 who swore to God he was not a heliocentrist, to a Catholic martyr, correcting the Biblical geocentrism of all the Fathers; of Trent, and the popes and theologians of his time, when insisting that heliocentrism is what the Bible really meant. Note how Cardinal Daly ended his illusion, agreeing with Fantoli that the ‘Church’ that defended the geocentrism of Scripture was wrong and that Galileo taught it “a severe lesson in humility, and a warning, no less rigorous, to the Church, not to repeat in the present or in the future the errors of the past.” Cardinal Cathal Daly, a peritus at Vatican II, served as Primate of Ireland and Archbishop of Armagh from 1990 to 1996 when Catholics were leaving his post-Vatican II Church in their droves.

    That modernists have misappropriated/hijacked Newman is already understood.
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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #63 on: May 12, 2023, 12:30:34 PM »
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  • Incidentally there's a book about Fr. Feeney and Orestes Brownson:

    https://loretopubs.org/they-fought-the-good-fight.html

    Fr. Feeney's The Point only makes one mention of Brownson:

    https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/the-point-february-1953/


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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #64 on: May 12, 2023, 12:34:39 PM »
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  • That modernists have misappropriated/hijacked Newman is already understood.
    Who cares if modernists or anti-modernists like or dislike Newman. Jews are comfortable with him. That matters more than these other stupid categories:   

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    This propensity for Judaizing young Gentiles was one of Dr. Sachar’s principal recommendations for the Brandeis presidency. The other was a repeated declaration, following necessarily from his Zionist loyalty, that America is not a “melting pot,” and that Jєωs must not only stick to being Jєωs, they must even rejoice in their Jєωιѕнness.

    In order to attract Gentile students, for processing under his experienced direction, Dr. Sachar has allowed a Newman Club and a Student Christian Association to take their places beside Brandeis University’s lively Hillel chapter. Profoundly touched by the limitless opportunities thus afforded him, Dr. Sachar has resolved upon a rededication of himself to the spirit and ideals of that Rabbi Hillel for whom the Hillel movement was named — the rabbi who, until his death in 10 A.D., was head of the Jerusalem sanhedrin and who was, as such, the chief promoter of King Herod’s “slaughter of the Holy Innocents,” the first of the Jєωιѕн attempts to get rid of Jesus.

    https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/the-point-may-1955/

    It's telling that Dr. Sachar isn't frightened of a Newman Club at Brandeis University.
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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #65 on: May 12, 2023, 12:39:09 PM »
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  • Who cares if modernists or anti-modernists like or dislike Newman. Jєωs are comfortable with him.

    So was Pope St. Pius X.

    Was he a judaizer too?
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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #66 on: May 12, 2023, 12:56:03 PM »
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  • For any more serious researchers who prefer not to take the guided tour by one side or the other, here’s Ch. 5 of Newman’s Essay on Doctrinal Development (distinguishing them from doctrinal corruptions):

    https://www.newmanreader.org/works/development/chapter5.html

    See what you think.

    The opening paragraph sets the tone and shows his purpose:

    {169} I HAVE been engaged in drawing out the positive and direct argument in proof of the intimate connexion, or rather oneness, with primitive Apostolic teaching, of the body of doctrine known at this day by the name of Catholic, and professed substantially both by Eastern and Western Christendom. That faith is undeniably the historical continuation of the religious system, which bore the name of Catholic in the eighteenth century, in the seventeenth, in the sixteenth, and so back in every preceding century, till we arrive at the first;—undeniably the successor, the representative, the heir of the religion of Cyprian, Basil, Ambrose and Augustine. The only question that can be raised is whether the said Catholic faith, as now held, is logically, as well as historically, the representative of the ancient faith. This then is the subject, to which I have as yet addressed myself, and I have maintained that modern Catholicism is nothing else but simply the legitimate growth and complement, that is, the natural and necessary development, of the doctrine of the early church, and that its divine authority is included in the divinity of Christianity.“
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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #67 on: May 12, 2023, 01:01:57 PM »
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  • So was Pope St. Pius X.

    Was he a judaizer too?
    Most everyone is judaized to some degree. I am. If I did a little digging it wouldn't surprise me if any Catholic in the past, including saints, allowed themselves to be somewhat sullied by associating with jews. I read somewhere, and I doubt my memory is failing me here, that St. Pius X had "Jєωιѕн friends." One of them paid for a trip as he lacked funds.

    I've long though the Syllabus of Errors was a rear-guard action. I don't have anything critical to say about the docuмent (or St. Pius X) other than that it "beats around the bush." It's like how people love to go on and on about feminism, communism, capitalism, blacks, whites, blah blah blah.

    Why not just "call out jews"? And be done with it. As many saints have said all heresies have their taproot in тαℓмυdists. I guess the Church no longer has legions at Her disposal and so has to use rear-guard tactics instead of blunt tactics. Just call a spade a spade. I think if the Church leaders just called a spade a spade the popularity of the Church would go through the roof.
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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #68 on: May 12, 2023, 01:59:38 PM »
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  • Most everyone is judaized to some degree. I am.

    Bishop Williamson used to say that of Modernism, that we're all infected, even if very subtly (where he meant himself included).

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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #69 on: May 12, 2023, 02:52:47 PM »
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  • And Brownson took to task Mr. Francis Newman, the younger brother of Card. Newman, who was also a convert.  I give the link to the whole article after the quote:

    "Clearly, then, Mr. Francis Newman's doctrine, which is not only rationalism, but mere psychological rationalism, cannot be even entertained, and would deserve no respectful consideration as a system, even if it were conceded that we have received no revelation of a supernatural order ; for without revelation and tradition, by reason alone, man is utterly unable to construct even a complete and self-coherent system of rationalism, and for the best of all reasons, because he does not exist in a purely rational order. Our preliminary difficulties in the way of Mr. Francis Newman's theory are of themselves conclusive against it. We have no occasion to go beyond his title-page. That asserts his principle and method. His principle being false, and his method vicious, his theory, though it may contain by a happy inconsistency some slight traces of rational truth, must be, as a theory, utterly worthless, and, as far as it goes, mischievous. It is entirely unnecessary for us to take it up and examine it in detail. It is clearly antichristian and repugnant to sound reason, and having refuted it in principle, we may dismiss it as unworthy of any further consideration; for a man who starts wrong, and travels in a wrong direction, is pretty sure never to reach the goal." ("Newman on the True Basis of Theology," Brownson's Review, 1851)

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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #70 on: May 12, 2023, 03:21:15 PM »
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  • And Brownson took to task Mr. Francis Newman, the younger brother of Card. Newman, who was also a convert.  I give the link to the whole article after the quote:

    "Clearly, then, Mr. Francis Newman's doctrine, which is not only rationalism, but mere psychological rationalism, cannot be even entertained, and would deserve no respectful consideration as a system, even if it were conceded that we have received no revelation of a supernatural order ; for without revelation and tradition, by reason alone, man is utterly unable to construct even a complete and self-coherent system of rationalism, and for the best of all reasons, because he does not exist in a purely rational order. Our preliminary difficulties in the way of Mr. Francis Newman's theory are of themselves conclusive against it. We have no occasion to go beyond his title-page. That asserts his principle and method. His principle being false, and his method vicious, his theory, though it may contain by a happy inconsistency some slight traces of rational truth, must be, as a theory, utterly worthless, and, as far as it goes, mischievous. It is entirely unnecessary for us to take it up and examine it in detail. It is clearly antichristian and repugnant to sound reason, and having refuted it in principle, we may dismiss it as unworthy of any further consideration; for a man who starts wrong, and travels in a wrong direction, is pretty sure never to reach the goal." ("Newman on the True Basis of Theology," Brownson's Review, 1851)

    Article on Francis Newman

    I wonder whether any of Dr. Brownson's objections from this 1851 article to Francis Newman remained, in light of his 1864 retraction regarding Cardinal Newman (posted at the top of this page)?
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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
    « Reply #71 on: May 12, 2023, 08:00:38 PM »
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  • That relationship with Fr. Ambrose sounds disgusting.




    Letter by Newman on the last encounter he had with Ambrose St. John

     The Oratory: May 31, 1875.

     My dear Blachford,

     I cannot use many words, but I quite understand the kind affectionateness of your letter just come. I answer it first of the large collection of letters which keen sympathy with me and deep sorrow for their loss in Ambrose St. John have caused so many friends to write to me. I cannot wonder that, after he has been given me for so long a time as 32 years, he should be taken from me. Sometimes I have thought that, like my patron saint St. John, I am destined to survive all my friends.

     From the first he loved me with an intensity of love, which was unaccountable. At Rome 28 years ago he was always so working for and relieving me of all trouble, that being young and Saxon-looking, the Romans called him my Angel Guardian. As far as this world was concerned I was his first and last. He has not intermitted this love for an hour up to his last breath. At the beginning of his illness he showed in various ways that he was thinking of and for me.

     That illness which threatened permanent loss of reason, which, thank God, he has escaped, arose from his overwork in translating Fessler, which he did for me to back up my letter to the Duke of Norfolk. I had no suspicion of this overwork of course, but which reminds me that, at that time, startled at the great and unexpected success of my pamphlet, I said to him, "We shall have some great penance to balance this good fortune."

     There was on April 28 a special High Mass at the Passionists two miles from this. He thought he ought to be there, and walked in a scorching sun to be there in time. He got a sort of stroke. He never was himself afterwards. A brain fever came on. After the crisis, the doctor said he was recovering he got better every day we all saw this.

     On his last morning he parted with great impressiveness from an old friend, once one of our lay brothers, who had been with him through the night. The latter tells us that he had in former years watched, while with us, before the Blessed Sacrament, but he had never felt Our Lord so near him, as during that night. He says that his (Ambrose's) face was so beautiful; both William Neville and myself had noticed that at different times; and his eyes, when he looked straight at us, were brilliant as Jєωels.

     It was the expression, which was so sweet, tender, and beseeching. When his friend left him in the morning, Ambrose smiled on him and kissed his forehead, as if he was taking leave of him. Mind, we all of us thought him getting better every day. When the doctor came, he said the improvement was far beyond his expectation. He said "From this time he knows all you say to him," though alas he could not speak. I have not time to go through that day, when we were so jubilant.

     In the course of it, when he was sitting on the side of his bed, he got hold of me and threw his arm over my shoulder and brought me to him so closely, that I said in joke "He will give me a stiff neck." So, he held me for some minutes, I at length releasing myself from not understanding, as he did, why he so clung to me. Then he got hold of my hand and clasped it so tightly as really to frighten me, for he had done so once before when he was not himself. I had to get one of the others present to unlock his fingers, ah ! little thinking what he meant.

     At 7 P.M. when I rose to go, and said "Good-bye, I shall find you much better to-morrow" he smiled on me with an expression which I could not and cannot understand. It was sweet and sad and perhaps perplexed, but I cannot interpret it. But it was our parting. W. N. says he called me back as I was leaving the room, but I do not recollect it.

     About midnight I was awakened at the Oratory, with a loud rapping at the door, and the tidings that a great change had taken place in him. We hurried off at once, but he had died almost as soon as the messenger started. He had been placed or rather had placed himself with great deliberation and self-respect in his bed they had tucked him up, and William Neville was just going to give him some arrowroot when he rose upon his elbow, fell back and died.

     I dare say Church and Copeland, and Lord Coleridge, will like to see this will you let them?

          Ever yours affectionately,

          John Henry Newman



    A text from Wilfrid Philip Ward's biography:

     When Ambrose St. John died, Newman threw himself on the bed by the corpse and spent the night there. The Life of John Henry Cardinal Newman, vol. 1, pp. 21-22.


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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
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  • Newman made up his own Catholic rules.


    Orthodoxy of writings

     One of the first measures taken to see if a person deserves to have his cause of beatification introduced is the examination of the writings. All the writings of the candidate are checked to see if there is any point that does not agree with the dogmas and teachings of the Catholic Faith. Naz explains: "According to canon 2042, writings include not only his original books, but everything from the pen of the candidate: his printed works, sermons, letters, diaries, autobiographies, personal notes, in brief, everything he wrote himself or dictated to others to be written in his name. (2)



    Blessed John Henry Newman
    He never completely rejected his past Anglican errors
    In Dictionnaire de Théologie Catholique expert Fr. Theofile Ortolan, O.M.I., clearly affirms that a candidate's writings must be orthodox in their entirety: "If some heterodox doctrine is found in his writings, either published or not, it would place the faith of its author under suspicion and permanently stop his cause of canonization. Before a cause is introduced in a supreme tribunal, it is, therefore, convenient to be certain beforehand that an obstacle of this type will not be found. It would be absolutely insurmountable." (3) It is evident that, according to the Catholic Church, anyone who is beatified must have written and preached unquestionably orthodox doctrine all his life.

     When we apply this condition to Newman, we cannot understand how he was named blessed. In fact he wrote five books - two when he was Protestant and three when he was Catholic - and he considered them all good. When he finished his Grammar of Assent in 1870, he wrote to Sister Imelda Poole: "This is the fifth constructive work which I have done - two as a Protestant, three as a Catholic." (4) When he was Protestant he also gave sermons at Oxford that were published and became famous. Newman never entirely renounced either those "constructive works" or the sermons of his Protestant period. His letters reveal that he maintained a warm friendship with Protestants and continued to defend many of the Anglican ideas he formerly upheld.

     Now then, how could his process of beatification be introduced and approved in face of this frontal clash with the aforementioned condition? To my knowledge, no restriction was placed on Newman's writings either by Benedict XVI or the Vatican. Does his beatification signify that Catholics must learn from his Protestant writings, as if they expressed a crystalline orthodoxy?

     The TIA website has posted many points in which Newman contradicted the Catholic Faith. For example, he wrote against Papal Infallibility, devotion to Our Lady and the Immaculate Conception, the Syllabus, the immutable character of dogma, the Pope's temporal power, and the monarchical structure of the Church. Any one of these points would normally stop his beatification process. But none of them did. Benedict XVI, using his apostolic authority, declared him blessed – without any known restrictions regarding these points.

     What can one think about a beatification that disregards the Catholic Faith of the "blessed"?

     Heroic virtues

     Another indispensable condition for beatification is the practice of the heroic virtues. The candidate's practice of the theological virtues - Faith, Hope and Charity - and the cardinal virtues - Justice, Prudence, Temperance and Fortitude - must be examined with the greatest care. A stain against any of these virtues should stop the process of beatification.

     How could any serious process that scrutinized the practice of virtue of Card. Newman disregard his suspicious relationship with Fr. Ambrose St. John? Even if ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity were not proved irrefutably, how can Benedict XVI present a man under this public suspicion as a model for Catholics?




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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
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  • Newman made up his own Catholic rules.


    Orthodoxy of writings

     One of the first measures taken to see if a person deserves to have his cause of beatification introduced is the examination of the writings. All the writings of the candidate are checked to see if there is any point that does not agree with the dogmas and teachings of the Catholic Faith. Naz explains: "According to canon 2042, writings include not only his original books, but everything from the pen of the candidate: his printed works, sermons, letters, diaries, autobiographies, personal notes, in brief, everything he wrote himself or dictated to others to be written in his name. (2)



    Blessed John Henry Newman
    He never completely rejected his past Anglican errors
    In Dictionnaire de Théologie Catholique expert Fr. Theofile Ortolan, O.M.I., clearly affirms that a candidate's writings must be orthodox in their entirety: "If some heterodox doctrine is found in his writings, either published or not, it would place the faith of its author under suspicion and permanently stop his cause of canonization. Before a cause is introduced in a supreme tribunal, it is, therefore, convenient to be certain beforehand that an obstacle of this type will not be found. It would be absolutely insurmountable." (3) It is evident that, according to the Catholic Church, anyone who is beatified must have written and preached unquestionably orthodox doctrine all his life.

     When we apply this condition to Newman, we cannot understand how he was named blessed. In fact he wrote five books - two when he was Protestant and three when he was Catholic - and he considered them all good. When he finished his Grammar of Assent in 1870, he wrote to Sister Imelda Poole: "This is the fifth constructive work which I have done - two as a Protestant, three as a Catholic." (4) When he was Protestant he also gave sermons at Oxford that were published and became famous. Newman never entirely renounced either those "constructive works" or the sermons of his Protestant period. His letters reveal that he maintained a warm friendship with Protestants and continued to defend many of the Anglican ideas he formerly upheld.

     Now then, how could his process of beatification be introduced and approved in face of this frontal clash with the aforementioned condition? To my knowledge, no restriction was placed on Newman's writings either by Benedict XVI or the Vatican. Does his beatification signify that Catholics must learn from his Protestant writings, as if they expressed a crystalline orthodoxy?

     The TIA website has posted many points in which Newman contradicted the Catholic Faith. For example, he wrote against Papal Infallibility, devotion to Our Lady and the Immaculate Conception, the Syllabus, the immutable character of dogma, the Pope's temporal power, and the monarchical structure of the Church. Any one of these points would normally stop his beatification process. But none of them did. Benedict XVI, using his apostolic authority, declared him blessed – without any known restrictions regarding these points.

     What can one think about a beatification that disregards the Catholic Faith of the "blessed"?

     Heroic virtues

     Another indispensable condition for beatification is the practice of the heroic virtues. The candidate's practice of the theological virtues - Faith, Hope and Charity - and the cardinal virtues - Justice, Prudence, Temperance and Fortitude - must be examined with the greatest care. A stain against any of these virtues should stop the process of beatification.

     How could any serious process that scrutinized the practice of virtue of Card. Newman disregard his suspicious relationship with Fr. Ambrose St. John? Even if ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity were not proved irrefutably, how can Benedict XVI present a man under this public suspicion as a model for Catholics?




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    Nonsense:

    According to this, St. Augustine must be uncanonized, since he did not write orthodox theology all his life.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Cardinal Newman was not a Modernist
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  • Ascent of Mount Carmel youtube channel has a nice playlist on Cardinal Newman
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9wsq--mkdN3MswdrjDF_dHDzgUFhvHF