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Offline Belloc

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Capitalism is not Catholic
« on: December 09, 2009, 11:05:10 AM »
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  • Wednesday, June 13, 2007
    Capitalism is not Catholic
    by Athanasius

    http://distributistleague.blogspot.com/2007/06/capitalism-is-not-catholic.html

    (From my own blog Athanasius Contra Mundum. This started my work on Distributism on the net)

    For many years I have been a Free Market Capitalist. There are a number of reasons for this, one of which is that it is just the conservative thing to do. One thing that unites the majority of conservatives both neo-cons like Sean Hannity and Bill Krystol as well as paleo-conservatives such as Thomas Woods and Pat Buchanan is capitalism and free market economic principles, or at least that mantle even if they read it slightly differently. Free market Capitalism basically means that if you keep markets unregulated in all arenas, business will keep itself well regulated and allow sufficient competition, so that a man with ingenuity and hard work can rise to the top and be a millionaire. How? By using capital at his disposal or in reality someone else's capital, and getting a bunch of wage slaves to produce it into goods for him while he works to manage it, until he either succeeds or fails. This happens on either a large scale or on a small scale. For years this made sense, but since the summer, I have finally called all of this into question, and at last have completely rejected it as a defective produce of the modern era, just as defective as ideas like unrestricted freedom of speech, relativistic morality and democracy. For one the business world working on the free market model has shown itself time and time again unwilling to discipline itself, and more interested in satisfying the bottom line. When the wage of the employee who is going to create wealth he will never see becomes too high, the company will either cut the position, cut the pay, or take its business over seas where it can exploit labor. The illegal immigration problem clearly demonstrates this. My number 2 problem with illegal immigration (after number 1 which is the flow of gangs, criminals and drugs uncontested across the border) is that people coming here to work hard for their family will be exploited by big business and have no legal protection.

    I could go on, but rather than complain, it is necessary to show a vision for the future, and to do that it is necessary to point to one thing: Capitalism isn't it. In fact, growing up in America, we are conditioned to think Capitalism good, Communism bad, anything else bad. Outside the box there is no salvation. Suddenly the reader is no doubt pausing in horror, Athanasius, you are not becoming a Communist, are you? You're Communism series hasn't converted you has it? Certainly not. But if you say you are against Capitalism, the first thing that comes to mind is that you must be a Socialist or a Communist. However I feel it necessary to point out at this juncture that just as Communism is an anti-God and anti-Religious philosophy and economic science, Capitalism is equally against Catholic principles and the moral authority of Church teaching. Captialism represents every man for himself alone, the successful man is the one with the most cash philosophy. However measuring one's success in terms of wealth is directly related not to Catholicism, as such a system would seem grossly wicked to 1531 years of Catholics, but with Calvinism. Capitalism truly has its roots in the Protestant Reformation, both directly and indirectly. Indirectly, as Luther and Calvin had no intention of willing the oppression and suffering that occurred with Capitalism, and directly, as their attacks on a system that protected men's livelihood and kept capital concentrated in the hands of the many rather than the few. Luther of course had no economic vision whatsoever. His ideas concerning economics were still quite Catholic in spite of everything else. Calvinism on the other hand began measuring whether or not one was saved based on economic success, since that salvation was predetermined by God and as such unknowable. In the hands of classical economists, one bettered society by making as much money as he could, regardless of the human cost, and thus we arrive at the Free Market Economy. (This would also mean that the reformation is indirectly responsible for socialism, since it created the problem to which Socialism is the proposed solution and would not exist otherwise.

    On the other hand there is the Catholic vision for economics, man's livelihood and the social kingship of Jesus Christ. It is not a terribly new system, as it was in practice from the period of the late Roman Empire until by and large after the Protestant and French Revolutions. It is a system which in modern times is called "Distributism", an exposition of Catholic social teaching most identified with Hillaire Belloc and G.K. Chesterton, who formally introduced it in the early 1900's.

    As I said Distributism is nothing new, but a predication of Medieval economic theory and practice. Some critics falsely maintain that it is the same as Socialism, but anyone who makes this objection only shows they do not know what they are talking about. Socialism is predicated on the denial of the right to private property, especially private productive property, whereas Distributism is predicated on the affirmation of the right to private productive property.

    Hence the Late Romano-Medieval system, the right of a man to property by which he might take capital and produce it into goods for sale or consumption was paramount, far above the right to make money. This is because a Catholicized society did not see life as the necessity to amass wealth, but as a period to accomplish the salvation of our soul. This focus on the spiritual ends brings about a natural frugality with resources, money, and a modesty in the way one spends his time and engages in worldly goods. Belloc said

    "It has been found in practice (that is, it is discoverable through history) that economic freedom thus somewhat limited satisfies the nature of man, and at the basis of it is the control of the means of production by the family unit. For though the family exchange its surplus, or even all its production, for the surplus of others, yet it retains its freedom, so long as the social structure, made up of families similarly free, exercises its effect through customs and laws consonant to its spirit: the Guild; a jealous watch against, and destruction of, monopoly; the safeguarding of inheritance, especially the inheritance of small patrimonies. The freehold miller, in such a society as ours [English] was ours not so long ago, though he had no arable or pasture, was a free man. The yeoman, though he got his flour from the miller, was a free man." -An Essay on the Restoration of Property, pg. 27)
    To elaborate on guilds, some falsely maintain that a guild is essentially like our modern notion of a Union. A Union, is essentially a gathering of bureaucrats who live like leeches on the dues of its members under the promise of improving working conditions, a promise delivered 100 years ago, but not even thought about now since the bureaucrats who control unions have gotten a taste of the cash and fine living that comes with being a union president. A Guild never functioned that way. Guilds were a body of craftsmen in a given disciplines such as those of blacksmith, carpenter, cobbler, butcher, etc. Their purpose was to improve craftsmanship on the part of their members and to make sure that they were operating fairly. Dishonest workers would be thrown out of the guild and as such lose business due to a bad reputation. Guilds were inherently Catholic bodies, with their patron saints, celebrations, banners to process into Mass with, and protection from the Church. Its members and leaders were all craftsmen themselves employed in a given trade, not bureaucrats looking to spend the hard earned money of its workers for political gain. Always they defended the livelihood of the worker. Stealing the means by which a man feeds his family through monopolizing was no different than stealing the food itself from his children.

    This brings us to the essence of distributism, that which the Guilds labored hard to defend. The name sounds funny, because we are unaccustomed to it. Distributism has nothing to do with government re-distribution, it merely refers to the fact of private productive property being well distributed (or diffused) amongst the people. Belloc notes:

    "When so great a number of families in the state possess Private Property in a sufficient amount as to give its color to the whole, we speak of "widely distributed property. It has been found in practice, and the truth is witnessed to by the instincts in all of us, that such widely distributed property as a condition of Freedom is necessary to the normal satisfaction of human nature. In its absence general culture ultimately fails and so certainly does citizenship." -Ibid, pg. 28

    Capitalism is also a slightly misleading word. Its name would suggest that it is just a system about the amassing of capital and the production of capital into wealth. However, this would accurately describe every economic arrangement human society has known, including Communism. Capitalism then (as practiced since it was forged by the big three revolutions of Protestantism, the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution) is understood as a system where a minority controls the means of production, and the majority of the dispossessed must sell their labor, because that is all that they have left. The dispossessed are referred to as the "Proletariat" a term used today mostly by Marxists, which predates Marx by half a century. This accurately describes the situation in most of the world today. The alternative that Distributism offers is freedom. Instead of being required to sell our labor for a wage (wage slavery) in order to survive, we ourselves become the producers, consumers, on our own land on our own time. As wage slaves we must be present 9-5, or else risk the wrath of our employer. How many people would trade that to be self-sufficient? Come on, on one side you have life in a little cubicle, no windows, 3 bosses who harass you all day, and the best hours of your life spent not with your spouse and children but with your fat, balding boss, while on the other hand you have life on your terms, so long as you are willing to work hard. Which system seems more conducive to holiness? Distributism is the economics of the middle ages, and it is the only system that represents freedom. Anything else is a godless son of either protestantism or the enlightenment.

    Belloc-liked this article and the way the fellow writing it thought, so hence, I share.....
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    Offline Lybus

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    Capitalism is not Catholic
    « Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 11:27:59 AM »
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  • Thank you very much Belloc. Capitalism is something that has been sketchy for me lately. I've read a lot of books on the virtues of it, and so I did not neccessarily learn the rather nasty effects until recently. This article helps clear it up some.

    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accuмulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon


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    Capitalism is not Catholic
    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 12:08:42 PM »
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  • Yes, the Church has never approved of Capitalism, only tolerated it.
    Loving mother of the Redeemer, gate of heaven, star of the sea, assist your people who have fallen yet strive to rise again. To the wonderment of nature you bore your Creator, Yet remained a virgin after as before. You who received Gabriel's joyful greeti

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    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 12:15:00 PM »
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  • Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

    Offline St Jude Thaddeus

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    « Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 12:50:29 AM »
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  • Quote from: CM
    Sell everything you own, move to a poor nation, buy land and farm it. :farmer:


    Been there, done that. Actually I co-own a couple of small businesses in a small "developing" nation. My business partner has about ten acres up in the mountains which is mostly used for firewood production. I have a daughter down there in convent school. I'm here working and sending money back to help build up the business and pay for her school, but I have a bag packed and am ready to go at any time.

    When I used to say stuff like that to people they would ask to see my tinfoil hat. Now they just nod and tell me they wish they had somewhere to go too.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 12:52:58 AM »
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  • By the way, there's a thread over at AngelQueen on this very same topic:

    http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28823

    I only lurk there but I seriously considered joining up just so I could participate in that one thread.
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    pray for us.

    Offline Belloc

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    « Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 06:50:17 AM »
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    You jest, however you raise a serious point.

    Consider the state of our nation.  Less than 2% of the population farms.  98% are dependent on commercial farms.  Compare that to the 30s, when over 30% of the population raised its own food.

    If the economy continues to crash, people will not be able to feed their families.  This will lead to chaos.

    200 years ago, people were not dependent on others for food.  It really did not matter what happened in the economy, you always had food.
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    Sell everything you own, move to a poor nation, buy land and farm it. :farmer:


    It is a question of dependancy-the man that can grow his own food, make something,etc is not dependant on some banker or politico....though obviously, we are also not anarchists...
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    « Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 09:09:29 AM »
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  • How true......

    in Middle Ages, a serf worked about 2-4 days total for the yr for the Lord of the manor.an artisan, slightly less.......we work now about 6 months to pay the taxes alone.....

    who in the end was more free??
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    « Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 09:37:16 AM »
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    The world scoffs at the serf system.  The serf system did not produce great wealth or a middle class, but it did provide a life that provided the necessities of life and time for a spiritual life.  Not to mention, the time to raise your own kids.

    The irony will be when the middle class is in the streets starving.  They won't be able to eat their fourth flat screen.


    They're already here. Notice the changing faces on the highway panhandlers? Not too long ago you could see the visible signs of long-term alcohol abuse on most of them, but a growing percentage still have the look of middle-class health.

    When the parishes were still an "organic" part of the Catholic church, these same people would have been meeting and setting up common projects.  That's another thing that I'm only just now figuring out: the parish cronies with whom my dad played "Pitch" every Friday had a system of letting a man win if he needed groceries, and the parish culture supported small artisans who couldn't hold industrial jobs.

    People quietly knew who genuinely needed help and who didn't, and we had the means within our parish to take care of everyone.


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    « Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 11:11:43 AM »
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  • True, we should work to get back to that prior time, when people and organizations were the welfare providers..

    Not say "oh well, nothing we can do" which is what too many say..
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic