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but Classiccom....
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2010, 01:51:46 AM »
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"and he is even an enemy to the entire concept of the Papacy going back, in his quote, to before the days of the Protestant Reformation!!!!!!! "

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  You use the expression Protestant Reformation  . I call it the Protestant Revolt.  The other part of your statement is not true. Produce the quote you are talking about because you have a problem with the truth, just like your spiritual mentor Pope Pius IX.

  Because you can't , I submit this as evidence that CI leads to insanity. I am not against the Catholic Church. I just want it to be true and sane. Giving a blank check for any pope to say or do anything he wants  never was correct. You share a common delusion.

but Classiccom....
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2010, 03:58:53 AM »
Classiccom,

You apparently share the views or support the piece from the website you quote, and that piece sheds Popes in a most unfavorable light back to 1542.  That is the reason I think you are an enemy of the Papacy going back at least to before the protestant reformation (I agree REVOLT is more accurate).

Now I'm not entirely sure what you meant by quoting that website because you talk in circles and deny me straight answers.  I've asked the following 2 or 3 times in the Crisis section in your Pope Pius IX - Mason thread:

What are your views on praying to the Blessed Virgin Mary and to the saints?  Please give a bold straight answer in your own words to my question, as I did, despite my "problem with the truth," in response to your query as to why I consider you an enemy of the Papacy, rather than referring me to Bayside, etc., and leaving me to surmise your intricate position without full clarity.

I reviewed the cathar.info website you quoted from.  Though quite scholarly (it appears to be a travel guide trying to sensationalize an area to attract tourists), is clearly sympathetic to the non-Christian or heretical Cathars, and portrays the Roman Catholic Church in a bad light generally, and several Popes specifically, back at least to the middle of the 13th century.

Check out the references to Catholics devotion to the "wrong God," the "Bad God," "Roman Catholics were voluntarily worshipping Satan," at http://www.cathar.info/120111_catharviews.htm
Granted, this section supposes the Cathar point of view.  But the entire section is against the Church.  However, the section purported to be the Catholic point of view (http://www.cathar.info/120112_catholicviews.htm) also contains criticism of the Church and puts the Church in a bad light.

Your bringing up the inquisition is more of the same stuff I heard from fundamentalist anti-Catholic protestants upon leaving Catholic elementary school and entering high school!  All of the comments about Catholics drawing and quartering protestants and the steel mummies.

If I'm fortunate enough to get a straight answer about your position regarding the Blessed Virgin Mary, I expect you will be so worked up you won't be able to refrain from hurling another insult commonplace among anti-Catholics by calling us "Mary-worshippers!"


but Classiccom....
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2010, 01:42:43 PM »
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"and he is even an enemy to the entire concept of the Papacy going back, in his quote, to before the days of the Protestant Reformation!!!!!!! "

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  You use the expression Protestant Reformation  . I call it the Protestant Revolt.  The other part of your statement is not true. Produce the quote you are talking about because you have a problem with the truth, just like your spiritual mentor Pope Pius IX.

  Because you can't , I submit this as evidence that CI leads to insanity. I am not against the Catholic Church. I just want it to be true and sane. Giving a blank check for any pope to say or do anything he wants  never was correct. You share a common delusion.


Why are you so obssessed with talking about what Pius IX did wrong? The only other member here that I have seen speak bad about a Pope in nearly every one of his posts was Anticlimax. If you want the Church to be "true and sane", you certainly aren't going to achieve that goal by constantly bashing good Popes.