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spouse of Jesus · « **on:** August 01, 2010, 10:17:50 PM »

For one moment forget about us and "club infallible" and just see it for yourself. Is it right in your opinion for realness of a religion to depend on justice of men? I mean you need an "ism" a "mindset" or a way of life that is built on the stone, not something as transistory and changable as justice or injustice of men (be they Popes or not)
You are acting like this: if john is a tidy man then Christ is Son of God, if jimmy is untidy then Christ is not Divine." So your creed changes every minute, as people change every minute.
People like you end in deism, so that they can have a God who has finished his words 1400 or 2000 or 3500 or (put the number) years ago, with no religious authority. Because for them, as soon as these men make a mistake God ceases to exist, and The Bible gets invalidated. And men always make mistakes.
So and so were masons? and masons are bad? right, but who told you that there were bad? was it not The Church whom you despise? You hate masons because of the church, then you hate the church because of masons!
Maybe if you leave the church and the faith you get fond of masons, then as you believe Pius (number?) to be one, you get fond of him too, so you return because of this, and then feel mad the church for condemning such nice men that masons are!

Classiccom · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2010, 10:39:06 PM »

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Not true. I believe in the "Chair of Moses" but even the Chair of Moses has commandments of God that it has to follow. What I despise is when people know things are wrong and yet imagine there is honor in supporting the current church in apostasy. I just believe that Pius IX is the most responsible for today's apostasy. He severed the link of scriptures and tradition and said " I am tradition". "I am" is a blasphemous statement implying Godhood. (like Satan)

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2010, 10:43:48 PM »

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"was it not The Church whom you despise?"

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Not true. I believe in the "Chair of Moses" but even the Chair of Moses has commandments of God that it has to follow. What I despise is when people know things are wrong and yet imagine there is honor in supporting the current church in apostasy. I just believe that Pius IX is the most responsible for today's apostasy. He severed the link of scriptures and tradition and said " I am tradition". "I am" is a blasphemous statement implying Godhood. (like Satan)

Saying I am tradition is not is a blasphemous statement implying Godhood. It is not the same as saying "I am Who am" which is how God described himself.

From what I have seen you may have something similar to an Old Catholic mentality. Is that correct?

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2010, 10:52:06 PM »

Yes he is one.
He is like a married man who says he loves his wife, but the one he loves is the image in his brain, not the woman in reality who is mother of his kids. He makes love with the imaginary wife, while the real one is neglected and despised. It is the analogy I saw on a trad website and I love it.
You don't love the church, you love your dreamy image of Her. Can't you simply love something with both it's positive and negative points? Unconditional love means nothing to you?

Classiccom · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2010, 11:06:22 PM »

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"was it not The Church whom you despise?"

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Not true. I believe in the "Chair of Moses" but even the Chair of Moses has commandments of God that it has to follow. What I despise is when people know things are wrong and yet imagine there is honor in supporting the current church in apostasy. I just believe that Pius IX is the most responsible for today's apostasy. He severed the link of scriptures and tradition and said " I am tradition". "I am" is a blasphemous statement implying Godhood. (like Satan)

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Saying I am tradition is not is a blasphemous statement implying Godhood. It is not the same as saying "I am Who am" which is how God described himself.

From what I have seen you may have something similar to an Old Catholic mentality. Is that correct?

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They call me all kinds of names around here.

I just wish we had at least a handful of heavy hitters like Bishop Williamson who could deal with controversial subjects like this. Must be genetic manipulation where all the people who have guts to stand up for the words of Christ over a pope's opinion have been weeded out. Williamson was a convert.

Did you realise this ? :

"Pius IX, in an edict of 1856, sanctioned 'secret execution'."

This is the kind of guy you give unqualified support ? Unqualified support is akin to the My Lai massacre.