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Boy Scouts Pay Out Nearly A Billion For 60,000 Sex Abuse Victims And Almost No αrrєѕтs Were Made
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Just because it is considered a boys club does not mean the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) is unprofitable. In fact, their assets topped over a billion dollars. Some might conclude it is long overdue but on Thursday of last week, the billionaire boys club announced it has finally agreed to pay for all the decades of child sɛҳuąƖ abuse its members have inflicted on unsuspecting young boys, usually at the hands of the club’s leaders. In an historic settlement with victims, the Boy Scouts of America will be paying out $850 million dollars to the abused.

While that figure will substantially diminish the club’s net worth, unfortunately, because the victims are so numerous, the $850 million will amount to between three and five thousand dollars per victim, the equivalent to a month and a half’s earnings at minimum wage, a proverbial drop in the bucket. Undoubtedly, the settlement will feel like a slap in the face to those children, many of whom are now adults, who have lost their innocence to predators and the organization which allegedly protected such pedophiles.
According to NPR, it is the first time the organization has ever paid out any settlement for any lawsuit to which it has been named a party, and there are several.
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The agreement, announced on Thursday, is the first legal settlement in a long list of lawsuits against the Boy Scouts, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in February 2020.
Ken Rothweiler, one of the chief negotiators in the settlement called it, “the largest settlement of sɛҳuąƖ abuse claims in United States history.”
The organization is relying on its local councils to pay at least $300 million, and the parent organization will also pay for things like “non-monetary commitments to abuse victims, including youth protection measures, a reporting system, formation of a Child Protection Committee, and information sharing related to abuse claims,” according to NPR.
Rothweiler’s law firm represents over 16,000 abuse victims dating back to the 1940’s, whose predators were catalogued in an internal list called the “perversion files”. Rothweiler, along with Tim Kosnoff, partnered to form the group known as Abused in Scouting to bring awareness to the thousands upon thousands of victims encouraging them to come forward. Kosnoff is now livid at the agreed upon settlement, according to NPR which quoted Kosnoff as saying:
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I don’t know how you can characterize this as anything but a failure…I would say it is a nonstarter, and if my clients asked me if I thought it was a good deal for them I would say no…You’re talking about clients who, in some cases, were anally raped for years that are now supposed to get payouts of $3,500 … maybe $5,000…That is an insult to all of the men who found the courage to file claims and participated in this process.
For its part the BSA believes the payouts are fair. In a statement they proclaim:
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This agreement ensures that we have the overwhelming support of survivors for the BSA’s proposed Plan of Reorganization, which is a key step in the BSA’s path toward emerging from bankruptcy. Bringing these groups together marks a significant milestone and is the biggest step forward to date as the BSA works toward our dual imperatives of equitably compensating survivors of abuse and preserving the mission of Scouting.
It is unclear if the presiding judge will accept the offer made by the BSA. Hopefully they will be able to see how very little money victims are getting in exchange for having their sɛҳuąƖ innocence ripped away and do the right thing. The burden of the payout should not have to come from the participants in the local councils but from the organization itself in our humble opinion, and the payouts need to be ten to twenty times higher at least.
On top of the insultingly low payout, another kick in the teeth to the thousands of victims is the fact that there have been almost no αrrєѕтs. This detail seems to be something the mainstream outlets are refusing to acknowledge. Over the decades of abuse, the Boy Scouts, and only a handful of troop leaders have been αrrєѕтed for their crimes. A travesty indeed.
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The Catholic Church before Vatican 2 forbidden any Catholic Boy to join the Boys Scouts because it's founders were Freemasons.
The Catholic version of the Boy Scouts was called "Ad Altare Dei". The Boy had be to Altar Boys, and in good standing., and go to
confession and communion at lease once a month.



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The Catholic Church before Vatican 2 forbidden any Catholic Boy to join the Boys Scouts because it's founders were Freemasons.  The Catholic version of the Boy Scouts was called "Ad Altare Dei". The Boy had be to Altar Boys, and in good standing., and go to confession and communion at lease once a month.

This is not accurate.  I've known several Catholic boys involved with scouting all through the 1950's-60's and many troops were, and are, sponsored by parish organizations, especially the Knights of Columbus.

Within the Boy Scout Merit Badge program there is a badge that can earned by scouts of particular religious faiths after fulfilling the requirements set by their church.  The Catholic Scouting merit badge is called Ad Altare Dei.

http://catholicscouting.org/ provides some useful factual information, including the Popes on Scouting  http://catholicscouting.org/ICCS_History/Popes/popes.htm, beginning with Pope Pius XI.

Some additional research seems to show that Lord Baden-Powell's wife, as well as Masonic sources, deny that he was part of that organization.

I was never a member of the Boy Scouts and may even have reservations about the organization today.  However, the truth is always important and what is in the quote box is simply not true.



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This is not accurate.  I've known several Catholic boys involved with scouting all through the 1950's-60's and many troops were, and are, sponsored by parish organizations, especially the Knights of Columbus.

Within the Boy Scout Merit Badge program there is a badge that can earned by scouts of particular religious faiths after fulfilling the requirements set by their church.  The Catholic Scouting merit badge is called Ad Altare Dei.

http://catholicscouting.org/ provides some useful factual information, including the Popes on Scouting  http://catholicscouting.org/ICCS_History/Popes/popes.htm, beginning with Pope Pius XI.

Some additional research seems to show that Lord Baden-Powell's wife, as well as Masonic sources, deny that he was part of that organization.

I was never a member of the Boy Scouts and may even have reservations about the organization today.  However, the truth is always important and what is in the quote box is simply not true.



Just goes to show you, even if you restrict yourself to conservative, alternative sources of news and information, you will end up with SOME errors. Perhaps not malicious, but errors nonetheless. Sometimes these sources exaggerate to sell papers (as it were). They promote sensationalism, fear, etc. in the right-wing. So you have to be discerning and often do your own verification and research. Sometimes a quick common sense check isn't enough to inoculate you against believing the error.

For example, if an alt news site said Pope Francis said some heretical thing. Most of us would believe it -- and for good reason! But it might nevertheless be false. That would require actual verification to expose the falsehood. A quick common-sense sanity check "Pope Francis would NEVER say something heretical like that!" doesn't work, for obvious reasons.

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For example, if an alt news site said Pope Francis said some heretical thing. Most of us would believe it -- and for good reason! But it might nevertheless be false. That would require actual verification to expose the falsehood. A quick common-sense sanity check "Pope Francis would NEVER say something heretical like that!" doesn't work, for obvious reasons.
I agree. On a related note, even though I don't believe he's a legitimate Pope, I've noticed a severe lack of charity among trads towards Bergoglio mostly through presumption for precisely the reason you note. I have not been perfect about this, but have become more conscious of how it is important not to ruin another's good name through detraction thanks to some threads on here recently. We still need to remember to look at the evidence before drawing a conclusion about any one, even Bergoglio. I certainly know I need to do this more.
"Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

"In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

"A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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If the Conciliar Catholic Church could be infiltrated by homos and pedophiles, you better believe a lesser organization like the Boy Scouts could be infiltrated and affected. 

It's debatable how much the Conciliar Catholic Church, or what is visible today as the Catholic Church, truly is the Catholic Church. 

However, we can all agree that the Boy Scouts of America have no promises AT ALL from Our Lord, nor was the Boy Scouts organization founded by Him.

But both organizations exist in the corrupt modern world, both contain innocent children (the target of the most wicked men). And we know how organized and evil the bad guys are. It goes well beyond human frailty and weakness.
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I agree. On a related note, even though I don't believe he's a legitimate Pope, I've noticed a severe lack of charity among trads towards Bergoglio mostly through presumption for precisely the reason you note. I have not been perfect about this, but have become more conscious of how it is important not to ruin another's good name through detraction thanks to some threads on here recently. We still need to remember to look at the evidence before drawing a conclusion about any one, even Bergoglio. I certainly know I need to do this more.
Ditto.  I don't think he is legitimate, but I have been doing a lot of soul searching this week, preparing for Confession and Mass tomorrow, and realize how reckless with my tongue (fingers on keyboard) I have been, and that my anger does not, cannot, satisfy God's justice.  I have found that I have allowed my outrage and disgust and hatred for all that is assaulting everything that I love to blind me to the fact that Jesus desires not our enemies' destruction but their salvation.  In the midst of condemning others, I have failed to take good inventory of myself, and have failed to be able to say with Jesus from the Cross, "Forgive them Father, for they do not know what they do," or as St. Paul puts it in 1 Cor. 2:8 "for if they had known it, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory."  I've also noticed that raging against the evil, produces in me the same ʀɛʋօʟutιօnary spirit that we experience from the Jєωs: forgetting that we have here no earthly home and therefore seeking to build a kingdom, a utopia here in this world, a world that with its desires is passing away (cf. 1 John 2:17).
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This is not accurate.  I've known several Catholic boys involved with scouting all through the 1950's-60's and many troops were, and are, sponsored by parish organizations, especially the Knights of Columbus.

Within the Boy Scout Merit Badge program there is a badge that can earned by scouts of particular religious faiths after fulfilling the requirements set by their church.  The Catholic Scouting merit badge is called Ad Altare Dei.

http://catholicscouting.org/ provides some useful factual information, including the Popes on Scouting  http://catholicscouting.org/ICCS_History/Popes/popes.htm, beginning with Pope Pius XI.

Some additional research seems to show that Lord Baden-Powell's wife, as well as Masonic sources, deny that he was part of that organization.

I was never a member of the Boy Scouts and may even have reservations about the organization today.  However, the truth is always important and what is in the quote box is simply not true.
It really depended on the area that you are in.  I went to parochial school in the early 1960's and the Ordinary of the Archdiocese was
Cardinal James McIntyre that is Los Angeles.  Cardinal McIntyre was very conservative, and was part of the conservative block at
Vatican II.
The name of the founder of the Boy Scouts of American can be found online 10,000 Famous Freemasons:
Daniel Carter Beard (known as Dan Beard) (1850-1941) American painter, illustrator and organizer of the Boy Scout movement in the United States. b. June 21, 1850 at Cincinnati, Ohio. Started as book and magazine illustrator and teacher of drawing. Originator and founder of the first boy scout society from which others were modeled. National Scout Commissioner and honorary vice-president of B.S.A. Awarded the Golden Eagle, by B.S.A., the only one ever given. Chief scout, dept. of woodcraft at Culver (Ind.) Military Academy (1911-15). Mt. Beard, the peak adjoining Mt. McKinley is named for him. Wrote many books on scouting and wilderness lore including: Moonlight and Six Feet of Romance (1890); American Boys' Handy Book (1882); Boy Pioneers and Daniel Boone (1909); Shelters, Shacks and Shanties (1914); Bugs, Butterflies and Beetles (1915); Signs, Signals and Symbols (1918); American Boy's Book of Wild Animals (1921) and at least a dozen others. Associate editor of Boy's Life. Chief of School of Woodcraft. Raised in Mariners' Lodge No. 67, New York City and later a member of Cornucopia Lodge No. 563, Flushing, N.Y. at the time of his death on June 11, 1941. Raised Nov. 30, 1917.

http://www.Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.bcy.ca/texts/baden-powell.html

Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and
Lord Baden-Powell


Baden-Powell [4]

"...there is no evidence that Major-General Lord Robert Stephenson Smyth Baden-Powell was a Freemason under the English, Irish or Scottish Constitutions. It is remotely possible, but unlikely, that he was initiated under some other jurisdiction. Bro. George Kendall, in his paper 'Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ during the Anglo-Boer War, 1899-1902' (AQC 97), makes no mention of him. Paul Butterfield’s Centenary: The First Hundred Years of English Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the Transvaal (1978) is similarly devoid of reference. Had Baden-Powell been a member of the Craft it would surely have come to light during the war in South Africa, during which masonic activity is well docuмented."1.
"Lord Baden-Powell must clearly have approved of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, for he presented to the first lodge to bear his name (No. 488, Victoria) the Volume of Sacred Law which is still in use. Its fly leaf was thus inscribed by him: 'With best wishes for the success of the lodge in its good work, Baden-Powell of Gilwell. 12th May 1931'. His grandson, Hon. David Michael Baden-Powell was initiated in this lodge and remains an active member."2. Lodge records show him to be a Past Master of the lodge.
Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ
There are six masonic lodges named after Baden-Powell, all in Australia—but they were formed by scouts, not by Baden-Powell. Baden-Powell Lodge No. 505 has published a booklet entitled Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and the Scout Movement(1982). They can be reached through: United Grand Lodge of Queensland, Box 2204 GPO. Brisbane, Queensland 4001, Australia.
It is well known that Baden-Powell borrowed heavily from his friend Rudyard Kipling when he created the Cub Scout programme. Kipling was initiated in Lodge Hope and Perseverance at Lahore. He often mentioned the Craft in his writings: The Mother Lodge being only one example. There is a mallet and chisel in the museum of the District Grand Lodge of the Punjab in Lahore, a gift from Bro. Kipling with his handwritten note.
If one looks closely at the structure, beliefs and goals of both movements, it can be seen that they inculcate the highest ideals of respect for the individual and society combined with a sense of duty and responsibility manifested in self relience, service to others and charity to all.
Lady Olave Baden-Powell (1889/02/22-1977/06/19), has confirmed that B-P was not a Freemason, but that his younger brother, Major David Baden-Powell, was a member of the Craft.3
The Empire Sentinels Scheme
There have been many speculations about connections between Scouting and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and whether early leaders in Scouting were connected to the Craft. A scheme that was officially trialed by the Dominion Boy Scouts Association in New Zealand has some characteristics that may seem familiar.
Some Early History
After Lt.-General Baden-Powell had commenced the Scout movement in England, a Boer War veteran, Major David Cossgrove formed the first New Zealand Troop in 1908, and the next January held the first camp. By the end of 1909 he had enrolled upwards of 500 patrols. He also started a scheme for "Junior Scouts" prior to the development of Wolf Cubs in England. Later he started a scheme for retaining those lads who had reached the age when they could no longer be Boy Scouts. This was the inception of the Empire Sentinels.
We know of the trial from official minutes. The scheme is also referred to in letters between Col. Cossgrove and Sir Robert Baden-Powell, and from a few surviving copies of a printed handbook.
The scheme is based around "Watchtowers" and 3 degrees of efficiency:
1. based on religious duty, with proof of the ability to work.
2. of ραƚɾισtism and good citizenship and better work.
3. self-sacrifice in service to others, and still better work.

The Officer’s were to be: a Chief Sentinel, a Sentinel of the South, a Sentinel of the East, a Sentinel of the West, an Inner Guard, an Outer Guard, a Senior Watchman, a Junior Watchman, a Scribe, and a Padre.
The Tower is opened in the 3rd Watch, then dropped to the 2nd or 1st as required. Visitors are admitted before each Watch is commenced. Sentinels enter using a pass word, saluting, then being seated, but a visiting Chief Sentinel is escorted up the centre of the building with Watchman’s poles forming an archway over his head as he proceeds.
Halters and blindfolds are used and the "Alarm" appears to be the same number of knocks as the Watch in which the Tower is working. The saying "So Mote it Be" is mentioned. There are four principal officers in the Tower ceremonies, and the Chief Sentinel sits in the North. Lights are lowered and symbols of office illuminated in each Watch.
Whither the Sentinels?
In 1919 in a letter to B-P, Colonel Cossgrove said of the Empire Sentinels: "There are no groups of these in New Zealand at present. The Scheme is for young men who are beyond Scout age and whose work prevents them taking up Scout activities the scheme has already been taken up enthusiastically in Africa, America and in Australia, I believe, and will be here when our young warriors return and have settled down various schemes for Senior Scouts do not appeal to Scoutmasters here due to the fact that all our boys of 14 years and over must attend to their military duties, often two and three times aweek and also on Saturday afternoons. In the towns where most of these boys are they have to attend Technical Schools too, and in the country districts they have no time for Scouting as they work late and early.
Research has not shown that David Cossgrove was ever a Freemason. With his death in 1920, and the developments foreseen in the extract above,the impetus may have been lost. There is no indication that any Watch Towers ever operated other than as a trial, but the scheme is still demonstrated a few times a year by masonic Scouters in New Zealand.5
Baden-Powell at Mafeking
While there is no evidence that Baden-Powell was a Freemason, photographs taken before the siege of Mafeking include one of a man, identified as a Freemason, who bears a superficial resemblance to Baden-Powell. This has led to mistaken reports that Baden-Powell was initiated into Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.6

1. Frederick Smyth, Ars Quatuor Coronatorum: Transactions of Quatuor Coronati Lodge No. 2076, vol. cii. London: 1990. p. 264.
2.Ars Quatuor Coronatorum: Transactions of Quatuor Coronati Lodge No. 2076, vol. civ. London: 1991. p. 257.
3."Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and the Scout Movement" by George W. Kerr, Ontario Mason, 1994, Philalethes, December 1995.
4.Detail from an oil painting by David Jagger, 1929. It was presented to B-P on August 6, 1929 at the III World Jamboree at Arrowe Park, Birkenhead, England. The original is displayed in the conference room at World Headquarters (WOSM) in Geneva, Switzerland. <pinetreeweb.com/bp-Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.htm>. Accessed 1996/05/26.
5.The information on the Empire Sentinels is excerpted from a posting to the newsgroup <rec.scouting> by Edward Robinson, Westminster Lodge 308, New Zealand Accessed 1996/05/26.
6. Taylor, D., Souvenir of the siege of Mafeking from original photographs by D. Taylor. [s.l. : s.n., 1900?] (Sheffield : Leng) 1 v. ; 29 x41 cm. There is a stamp which suggests that the original is in the possession of Centro Studi Scout in Parma. Picture No. 2 is titled "Officers of the Protectorate Regiment, taken at Ramathlabama Camp, before the Siege" and includes "Col. Baden-Powell, 5th Dragoons." Picture No. 45, titled "Group of Free Masons" includes one man who bears a superficial resemblance to Baden-Powell. He is sitting in the front row of the group, all of whom are wearing collars and aprons. In the second and third rows there are three men wearing sashes with a large diamond pattern and Jєωels/medals on their left breasts.


In the area of Los Angeles Catholic's were very strict in there practice of their religion until the disintegration
that begun after Vatican 2.  Catholic Boys in the Ad Atare Dei had to be Altar Boys and go to confession and
communion at Sunday Mass at lease once a month.

I was there.


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My father made Eagle Scout in the Catholic Boy Scouts in about 1939 or 1940.  There were requirements about serving Mass, Confession, Communion, and hearing Mass a certain number of weekdays.  If he’d ever had a bad experience, I’m quite certain he’d have not let his grandson join.  
My nephew also made Eagle Scout in 2010, before they gave in to the trans agenda, allowing girls tand changing their name to just “scouts.”  If anyone had messed with him, it would not have gone unpunished.  
I’m wondering if the Girl Scouts still exists as a club just for girls, not for Boy Scouts who want to be girls?  I was in Jr. Girl Scouts and before that, Brownies.  Later, though, in middle school, I joined 4-H because the group I was in did farming at a county run model farm.  Someone told me 4-H was Masonic?  If it is, there was never anything off that I can recall.  I went to 4-H summer camp for two weeks two years in a row, and liked it much better than Girl Scout camp.  We did actual camping and outdoor activities like tenting, canoeing, orienteering, horseback riding, outdoor cookery, swimming, etc.  Girl Scouts was more focused on socializing, indoor crafts, and their presentation to groups, ie.ladylike public speaking.  
Was there a Catholic Girl Scouts as well?  

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I do not remember a Catholic Girl Scouts before Vatican 2 and I cannot find if any existed. Perhaps someone out in CI can
present any experience from that time.
In my youth, Boys were focus on Boys, and Girls were focus on Girls. Even the parochial schools separated the sexes
in separate classrooms after the six grade.

There is a ""Novus Ordo" Catholic Girl Scouts and what I have read it follows the National Girl Scouts and its anti Christian
agendas. Best to avoid them.