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Offline SeanJohnson

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Black Privilege
« on: May 22, 2022, 07:21:23 AM »
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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #1 on: May 22, 2022, 07:57:39 AM »
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  • I was at an event yesterday (outdoors, in a park) with limited tables. You had to get there early to get one.

    I managed to get one of the last tables. It was a square with 4 benches around it. I was sitting there by myself a lot, while the kids played games, etc. The kids went off in pairs to play games and other activities and frequently checked in to drop off prizes on our "pile" and what not. Our table was like our HQ of sorts, where we kept our bags, prizes, and stuff like that. There was also food at the event, and we certainly needed the space to eat. The table had room for 8 adults; my whole family (11) was there.

    During the event, several people asked me, "Is this table taken"? And I told them "yes". No problems.

    Eventually a black family came -- they just pretended they didn't hear my answer, I guess. For a while just a few of them sat on the "empty" side of the table, but it was a classic "Camel with his nose under the tent" situation. Apparently they had a lot of extended family and/or friends. Before long, they had taken over 1/2 to 3/4 of the table. I was not pleased.

    Any other race would have asked "Is this table taken?", "Yes.", "Ok, thank you." and that would have been the end of it.

    People wonder why no one wants to live near blacks, why whites "fly" from neighborhoods that go black, etc.? This is why. They seem to have no sense of rules, decorum, culture, or living in harmony with their neighbors. Even the average ones -- the ones who aren't criminals -- have a sense of self-entitlement, a bit of a chip on their shoulder, like the black family in my story, or an extreme case like the guy in the video. They think the world owes them because they're black. They're just helping themselves to a bit of reparation as it were. And they will probably take a bit more tomorrow. And so on.

    And this is why, whenever I meet a black person, I always think to myself, "Please don't be one of the bad ones." I have to give each individual a chance, yes. That is the only charitable thing to do. But I have to be realistic -- the odds are not good.

    Let's just say that the famous adage, "Around blacks, never relax" is a wise saying. I only relax (or let down my guard) *after* I determine it's safe to do so. Sad that it's come to that.
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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #2 on: May 22, 2022, 10:53:27 AM »
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  • I was at an event yesterday (outdoors, in a park) with limited tables. You had to get there early to get one.

    I managed to get one of the last tables. It was a square with 4 benches around it. I was sitting there by myself a lot, while the kids played games, etc. The kids went off in pairs to play games and other activities and frequently checked in to drop off prizes on our "pile" and what not. Our table was like our HQ of sorts, where we kept our bags, prizes, and stuff like that. There was also food at the event, and we certainly needed the space to eat. The table had room for 8 adults; my whole family (11) was there.

    During the event, several people asked me, "Is this table taken"? And I told them "yes". No problems.

    Eventually a black family came -- they just pretended they didn't hear my answer, I guess. For a while just a few of them sat on the "empty" side of the table, but it was a classic "Camel with his nose under the tent" situation. Apparently they had a lot of extended family and/or friends. Before long, they had taken over 1/2 to 3/4 of the table. I was not pleased.

    Any other race would have asked "Is this table taken?", "Yes.", "Ok, thank you." and that would have been the end of it.

    People wonder why no one wants to live near blacks, why whites "fly" from neighborhoods that go black, etc.? This is why. They seem to have no sense of rules, decorum, culture, or living in harmony with their neighbors. Even the average ones -- the ones who aren't criminals -- have a sense of self-entitlement, a bit of a chip on their shoulder, like the black family in my story, or an extreme case like the guy in the video. They think the world owes them because they're black. They're just helping themselves to a bit of reparation as it were. And they will probably take a bit more tomorrow. And so on.

    And this is why, whenever I meet a black person, I always think to myself, "Please don't be one of the bad ones." I have to give each individual a chance, yes. That is the only charitable thing to do. But I have to be realistic -- the odds are not good.

    Let's just say that the famous adage, "Around blacks, never relax" is a wise saying. I only relax (or let down my guard) *after* I determine it's safe to do so. Sad that it's come to that.

    You mirror many of my own observations, and I don't know what the demographics are where you live, but on my side of town (a mid-sized Southern metropolitan area with its exurbs), it breaks out roughly 50% black, 45% white, 5% something else (Hispanic or Asian).  And I want to be at pains to point out --- and this is just an objective fact, not motivated by any vestigial urge to be "politically correct" --- that all other things held equal, the black people with whom I interact, are more relatable, kinder, and gentler than the white people (though, being Southerners, in the main they're pretty relatable as well).

    My litmus test would be "are they that way to everybody --- even their fellow blacks --- or do they save it all for the white people?", and in my experience, their lack of social awareness is an equal-opportunity offender.  They just operate on a more self-centered, sometimes kind of childish, callow, unthoughtful basis, and I have to wonder how much is cultural, and how much is genetic.  Ancient Europeans had to plan for the future, to save food and resources for a harsh winter (either that, or starve to death), whereas ancient African hunter-gatherers, with pretty much constant weather year-round, had the luxury of living in the present moment and responding to immediate needs and wants.

    It seems that, for whatever reason, they are prone to granting themselves "micro-freedoms", often at the expense (or just annoyance) of those around them, and again, it's pretty much equal-opportunity.  IOW, I really have to doubt that when they "get to themselves", they say "okay, there aren't any white people around, so now we can be polite, and demure, and softly-spoken, and considerate of each other".

    Common behaviors I've encountered, which are by no means limited to black people, but seem far more prevalent among them:

    • Incessant talking on their smartphones.  I just have to wonder (and, I'll confess, have said out loud, from the safety of being inside my car with the windows up), "why do you have to use that phone constantly?".  I'll overhear them in the stores, and it almost invariably consists of the same inane, pointless observations on what this one did, or where that one is, or what one told the other about something.  Now, I will grant, many (if not most) of them have mind-numbingly complicated interpersonal relationships and networks, a thicket of baby daddys, baby mamas, Big Mommas, this child, that child, that girlfriend, this boyfriend, yada yada yada --- whereas the only two people who would ever have any need to talk to me are my mother and my son.  (And my son usually texts.)

    • Slow walking and blocking aisles (as in stores) and other rights-of-way, more often than not accompanied by intricate, belabored telephone exchanges (see above).  In their defense, I will say that when they become aware you need to get by, they do apologize and make space for you.  But there is no awareness that they might need not to block the aisle in the first place.

    • Backing into parking spaces, presumably to facilitate a quick and easy exit.  Just being fair, this seems to fly in the face of "live for the moment", in that it seems to indicate giving thought to something that is going to happen later instead of now, and I've heard both sides of the argument, "it's easier to back in than to back out" and "it's easier to back out than to back in".  This isn't a moral issue, there is no right or wrong to it, I myself choose to pull in and back out, as I reason that it is easier and quicker to back out from a smaller place (the parking space) into a larger one (the parking lot), but others see it differently, and I do look for "pull-through spaces" whenever possible, because that way I get the best of both worlds, easy entry and easy exit.  But I've just got to say it, going to such pains to facilitate an easy exit (a pull-through is a no-brainer and takes no extra time or effort) looks like you're planning to need to leave in a hurry, I've heard it called "gangsta parking" before.  And little thought seems to be given to all of the people you're forcing to wait in the parking lot while you park your car just-so.  It can be argued either way, but it does jump out at me, that black people seem to back into parking spaces at a disproportionate rate.  Got to wonder what the psychology is behind that.

    The slow service in fast-food and other drive-through lanes has just become a fact of life down my way, but I'm not going to attempt to parse that here.  Fast-food employment here is 95% black, and I have no way to compare it, unless I would go to someplace like Salt Lake City or Colorado Springs, use several drive-throughs, and note any differences.





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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #3 on: May 22, 2022, 12:30:46 PM »
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  • And another thing I notice, is pulling the front of their cars out into the street, such that you actually have to watch, and make sure you don't hit them.  One person (white), to whom I commented upon this, said that maybe it's because, having less disposable income, they tend more to buy older used cars, Cadillacs, Pontiacs, and so on, which can be had for a song, and those cars are longer and have longer hoods.  This being the case, they have to drive out further, to be able to see the oncoming traffic.  Fair enough.  I would only add to that, maybe they're in that habit, and the habit carries over to buying shorter cars later on (Toyota, Nissan, Lexus, etc.).

    And this is, obviously, an equal-opportunity thing, after all, I don't think they say "I'll pull out further to annoy white people and assert dominance over them, but if it's a black person in the other car, I'll pull back".  That makes no sense.  It's just more self-centeredness and lack of reflection upon how their behavior affects other drivers, regardless of the race of those other drivers.

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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #4 on: May 22, 2022, 12:46:08 PM »
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  • I notice a lot of these same things that you guys are saying.  Blacks are notorious for leaving crappy tips at restaurants and such as well.  I thought at first maybe it was because their server was white but come to find out they do it to fellow black servers as well. 

    I don't think most of them have a thought of "well they're white so screw them!" in most of the situations although I would think that some actually do think along these lines. 

    For reference, I'm in a 70% White, 15% Black, 10% Hispanic, 5% Asian area.  Those are just rough estimates. 

    I've often told people that I believe in segregation by worldview (atheists can have their states, agnostics can have theirs, protestants can have theirs, Catholics can have theirs, etc.) and then further segregation by race (if people want to) so it's not forced but recommended so there can be some diverse cities in those states, some cities all white, some all black, etc. for those who want to be around their own.  Anyway I digress.


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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #5 on: May 22, 2022, 02:32:52 PM »
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  • I've often told people that I believe in segregation by worldview (atheists can have their states, agnostics can have theirs, protestants can have theirs, Catholics can have theirs, etc.) and then further segregation by race (if people want to) so it's not forced but recommended so there can be some diverse cities in those states, some cities all white, some all black, etc. for those who want to be around their own.  Anyway I digress.
    Oh....you mean the way God designed it......different races in different places!
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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #6 on: May 22, 2022, 03:14:30 PM »
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  • I notice a lot of these same things that you guys are saying.  Blacks are notorious for leaving crappy tips at restaurants and such as well.  I thought at first maybe it was because their server was white but come to find out they do it to fellow black servers as well. 

    I don't think most of them have a thought of "well they're white so screw them!" in most of the situations although I would think that some actually do think along these lines. 

    For reference, I'm in a 70% White, 15% Black, 10% Hispanic, 5% Asian area.  Those are just rough estimates. 

    I've often told people that I believe in segregation by worldview (atheists can have their states, agnostics can have theirs, protestants can have theirs, Catholics can have theirs, etc.) and then further segregation by race (if people want to) so it's not forced but recommended so there can be some diverse cities in those states, some cities all white, some all black, etc. for those who want to be around their own.  Anyway I digress.

    Oh, yes, the tipping, forgot the tipping.  The attitude of many blacks towards tipping is so well-known, that it's impossible to refute.  Even The Washington Post (mirabile dictu!), ran a fair-minded article on the phenomenon:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/21/whats-behind-racial-differences-in-restaurant-tipping/

    While I can't discount the possibility that a black person, being served by a white person, might reason "screw you honky, my ancestors gave you people a lot of labor, no, I'm not tipping you, this is payback!", I suspect that one reason --- one of several --- this discrepancy exists, is due to not being able to do the math.  Not everyone can comprehend 10 percent (that's really sad) or 20 percent, and, granted, 15 percent is tricky to try and do in one's head.  Not everyone understands how to do percentages on a smartphone calculator.  So, rather than being faced with a math problem that they can't do, they just don't tip at all.  Just a thought.

    And black wait persons themselves know and acknowledge the problem, and dislike serving fellow blacks for that reason.  Hard to blame them.  Again, it's a well-known fact in the restaurant industry, everybody knows it, but some don't want to admit it.  I'm honestly stunned that the WaPo would print an article acknowledging it.

    Eventually, restaurants are just going to have to raise food prices by 15-20%, and post a sign that says something like "our servers are not allowed to accept tips, we pay them a fair wage, and our prices reflect that". 

    But which restaurant wants to be the first one to do that?

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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #7 on: May 22, 2022, 03:40:45 PM »
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  • I've often told people that I believe in segregation by worldview (atheists can have their states, agnostics can have theirs, protestants can have theirs, Catholics can have theirs, etc.) and then further segregation by race (if people want to) so it's not forced but recommended so there can be some diverse cities in those states, some cities all white, some all black, etc. for those who want to be around their own.  Anyway I digress.
    You mean like how God allowed the races to separate in antiquity? I agree.

    Had a few "youths" that have been screwing with my dad's hose lately. We're at a baby shower for my sister right now at my parents and I noticed the hose was on. Went around the corner to watch some black girl run off toward her buddies. The other two were standing in the street watching us, which was weird, so that explains why... Dad said its been happening lately. Kind of pisses me off since he's still recovering from chemo and doest have the energy to deal with it.

    I told him he should aim a sprinker at the spigot.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

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    Re: Black Privilege
    « Reply #8 on: May 22, 2022, 09:39:05 PM »
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  • Seemingly some black people (and not just black people) have various issues with tipping that go beyond the verifiable stereotypes:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html

    https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/i-dare-you-to-read-this-and-still-feel-ok-about-tipping-in-the-united-states/

    Note that these are all unimpeachably liberal MSM sources.

    I believe in justice and giving the laborer his due wage, so given the present system, I tip.  But maybe it needs to be gotten rid of, and replaced by a living wage.

    And then there's this:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10640883/1619-Projects-Nikole-Hannah-Jones-claims-tipping-tied-slavery-Twitter-row-historian.html

    It would be beyond mean and confrontational, to print out this article, and tell your server "this knowledgeable lady says tipping is racist, so I can't do it", but I would urge any wait person, black, white, polka-dotted, or whatever, to take up the matter with her.