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Offline Predestination2

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Can somebody refute this
« on: March 06, 2025, 02:00:47 PM »
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  • the ones which contain libel against national socialism

    https://www.maccabeanuprising.com/purple

    it says that hitler was a modern day haman.

    it is already based on falsehoods like "the nαzιs aimed to eradicate the church" .


    the majority of pdfs that are in the link are about hitler, to refute it one would have to read each link, thankfully they are only a few sentences each




    the guy who made this website makes parralels between old testament and AD history and most of his work is pretty good, he also parralels to coming of the NO antichurch 




    he makes points like hamans ten sons were hanged so were ten generals at nuremberg and pushes a narriative that the catholic church was in resistance to nαzιsm espcially joseph mueller, he states that mandatory  salutes under the nαzιs were like bowing to haman

    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #1 on: March 07, 2025, 05:13:34 PM »
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  • Here is a summary of the claims made,

    Can these be refuted?

    Haman was given plenary power by the Persian king.
    Haman used it to try to kill all the Jews. Haman made all bow to him in his presence. His 10 sons were hung at the end.
    Hitler was given plenary power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
    He used it to try to conquer Europe and eliminate the Church in Poland. In his presence, all had to give "Heil Hitler" salute.
    10 nαzι leaders were hung after Nuremberg trials.
    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #2 on: March 07, 2025, 07:45:40 PM »
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  • Here is a summary of the claims made,

    Can these be refuted?

    Haman was given plenary power by the Persian king.
    Haman used it to try to kill all the Jews. Haman made all bow to him in his presence. His 10 sons were hung at the end.
    Hitler was given plenary power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
    He used it to try to conquer Europe and eliminate the Church in Poland. In his presence, all had to give "Heil Hitler" salute.
    10 nαzι leaders were hung after Nuremberg trials.
    First of all, he never wanted to conquer Europe. He just wanted the German nation to be as strong as the British and French empires at that time. He wanted to be an ally with Britain so badly that he refused to take prisoners of war during the Battle of Dunkirk and allowed the British to retreat. He was naive because he thought that Britain and France were still competing for territories and thought Britain could ally with him against the French when it came to growing their empires. He never in a milliom years could've fathomed that both France and Britain were planning to willingly dissolve (i.e. give away) their worldwide colonial territories within the next several years. And the Nuremberg Trials were a kangaroo court where the worst group of human rights violators (the Soviets) sat on the "court of justice" and blamed the Germans for doing things they never did (e.g. the katyn massacre) but which the Soviets themselves did. Also, there never was a plan by him to kill all of the Tiny Hat Pseudo-Victims.

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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #3 on: March 07, 2025, 09:58:48 PM »
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  • First of all, he never wanted to conquer Europe. He just wanted the German nation to be as strong as the British and French empires at that time. He wanted to be an ally with Britain so badly that he refused to take prisoners of war during the Battle of Dunkirk and allowed the British to retreat. He was naive because he thought that Britain and France were still competing for territories and thought Britain could ally with him against the French when it came to growing their empires. He never in a milliom years could've fathomed that both France and Britain were planning to willingly dissolve (i.e. give away) their worldwide colonial territories within the next several years. And the Nuremberg Trials were a kangaroo court where the worst group of human rights violators (the Soviets) sat on the "court of justice" and blamed the Germans for doing things they never did (e.g. the katyn massacre) but which the Soviets themselves did. Also, there never was a plan by him to kill all of the Tiny Hat Pseudo-Victims.
    Yeah this part is obvious bogus - Haman was given plenary power by the Persian king.
    Haman used it to try to kill all the Jews. 
    Hitler was given plenary power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
    He used it to try to conquer Europe and eliminate the Church in Poland. 


    Because in addition to what you said, and the fact that hitler didn’t persecute the Church. The king of Persia prefigures Mussolini, not von Hindenburg

    but what about this - “Haman made all bow to him in his presence. His 10 sons were hung at the end.

    . In his [Hitler’s] presence, all had to give "Heil Hitler" salute.
    10 nαzι leaders were hung after Nuremberg trials.”
    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #4 on: March 07, 2025, 10:03:54 PM »
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  • 10 nαzι leaders were hung after Nuremberg trials.”
     In apparent recognition of the Haman analogy, Julius Streicher's last words on the gallows were, "Purimspiel 1946."


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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #5 on: March 07, 2025, 10:23:50 PM »
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  • Yeah this part is obvious bogus - Haman was given plenary power by the Persian king.
    Haman used it to try to kill all the Jews.
    Hitler was given plenary power by the Enabling Act of 1933.
    He used it to try to conquer Europe and eliminate the Church in Poland.


    Because in addition to what you said, and the fact that hitler didn’t persecute the Church. The king of Persia prefigures Mussolini, not von Hindenburg

    but what about this - “Haman made all bow to him in his presence. His 10 sons were hung at the end.

    . In his [Hitler’s] presence, all had to give "Heil Hitler" salute.
    10 nαzι leaders were hung after Nuremberg trials.”
    Though even the salute is a huge stretch because even Spain under Franco did the salute, and italy under Mussolini.  
    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
    Tried 6,000,000 pushups, only got to 271K

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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #6 on: March 07, 2025, 10:29:14 PM »
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  • In apparent recognition of the Haman analogy, Julius Streicher's last words on the gallows were, "Purimspiel 1946."
    There is no doubt that there was a figure prefigured by haman during the ww2 era, look at the parallels between the treaty of Lateran and Cyrus freeing the Israelites, but Hitler? It can’t be, maybe from the perspective of one who beleives he was some neo pagan but one you actually research it you realise he wasn’t persecuting using the church, and was forced to invade Poland.

    But the ten generals being hung….
    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
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    Re: Can somebody refute this
    « Reply #7 on: March 08, 2025, 09:54:33 PM »
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  • I found the solution to the hanging parallel

    Hitler wasn’t hung at Nuremberg haman was hung.  No parallel
    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 
    Tried 6,000,000 pushups, only got to 271K