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Offline Traditional Guy 20

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« on: January 27, 2013, 08:08:29 AM »
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    • Probably one of the most popular rock n' roll bands of all times the Beatles really pushed some of the boundaries in how rock n' roll would be deveolped in the 1960's. Of course the Beatles were also famous in that they were the most popular international socialists out there on the music scene (using music to promote left-wing and Communist dreams was nothing new but they were the most popular group to do it especially with John Lennon's "Imagine").

    Of course it is amusing to see their first appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show looking somewhat clean-cut besides the turtle hairstyle of course they had while in some of their last appearances they look like a bunch of hippie junkie freaks in a sɛҳuąƖ orgy party.



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    « Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 08:45:49 AM »
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    • In b4 roscoe.  :smoke-pot:
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    « Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013, 11:39:53 AM »
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    • What religion did they profess (I guess that they were practising Eastern spiritualism)?
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    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 12:17:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pelly
    What religion did they profess (I guess that they were practising Eastern spiritualism)?


    "Imagine there's no religion, it's not hard if you try. No Heaven or Hell, between us only sky. Imagine all the people living life in peace." John Lennon
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    « Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013, 12:55:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
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    What religion did they profess (I guess that they were practising Eastern spiritualism)?


    "Imagine there's no religion, it's not hard if you try. No Heaven or Hell, between us only sky. Imagine all the people living life in peace." John Lennon


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    If the band's press officer, Derek Taylor, is to be believed, all four Beatles had abandoned their religious upbringings by 1964. In an interview for the Saturday Evening Post*, in August of that year, he stated that the Beatles were "completely anti-Christ. I mean, I am anti-Christ as well, but they're so anti-Christ they shock me which isn't an easy thing."



    *Saturday Evening Post, August 8–15, 1964, p. 25
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    « Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013, 02:03:16 PM »
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    • The Beatles and their music were immoral and complete trash. John Lennon was especially unChristian, not only for his song "Imagine" but he also once wrote blasphemy against Our Lord.

    Their music should be avoided at all costs.
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    Offline Sigismund

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    « Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 02:09:56 PM »
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    • Does anyone under 50 eve know who the Beatles were?
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    Offline Alex117

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    « Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013, 02:19:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sigismund
    Does anyone under 50 eve know who the Beatles were?

    Yes, they're quite popular with people my age (20), and even younger. I must admit that I was quite a fan of their music until I found Tradition and started going to the TLM.
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    « Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013, 04:52:41 PM »
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    • Funny how they called it the "British Invasion"

    Some people suggest that "the Beatles" were a product of the Tavistock institute. There isn't much proof for it but the techniques they used to promote Beatles were pretty sophisticated, for example paying a few girls to act hysterically when they got off the plane, then other young girls thinking it was real mimicked the behavior when they went to their concerts, creating a mania. And yes, they first were clean cut and wrote simple songs and were able to slip under the parents radar, and then, once they had a mass following, came out with all this really weird music.

    Alan Watt talks about a "musical footprint" which is a musicians style, for example Bob Dylan was easy to identify, you knew he wasn't going to come out with a blistering guitar solo. But the Beatles seemed to spontaneously master various genres or styles, not to mention coming up with a new brand of music that nobody had ever heard before. Ok, they could have been geniuses, but more likely there were genius running the program, and the beatles were just four useful idiots who could play and sing a bit. When you think of all the free promotion they got via television and radio it's hard to believe they were a natural phenomon.

    I do like Ringo. He is a professed Christian now, not Catholic but seems like a decent guy.

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    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 05:50:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sigismund
    Does anyone under 50 eve know who the Beatles were?


    Yeah, me unfortunately. :rolleyes:
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    « Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 05:54:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    The Beatles and their music were immoral and complete trash. John Lennon was especially unChristian, not only for his song "Imagine" but he also once wrote blasphemy against Our Lord.

    Their music should be avoided at all costs.


    "We're more popular than Jesus now." John Lennon

    I assume you mean this.

    Anyway John Lennon along with Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan really are the epitome of the cultural revolution that still wages in our society. Back then the counterculture was just that, but nowadays it is the popular culture.
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    « Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 05:55:43 PM »
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    • Well, yes, I am aware of that quote from Lennon. I was actually refering to something he wrote that was even worse. It has been quoted here before. I'd rather not repeat it.
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    Offline roscoe

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    « Reply #12 on: January 27, 2013, 06:55:42 PM »
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    • The Roscoe Remasters are finally avail for download at http://www.beatleforum.proboards.com

    Under Beatle Music click on the RR topic. Any comments re: sound and /or artistic quality will be appreciated.
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    « Reply #13 on: January 27, 2013, 07:54:29 PM »
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    • Notwithstanding the moral rot, the Beatles could be considered extremely gifted musicians, when you compare them with other pop bands.  And after breaking up, all four of them went on to individual success which is pretty impressive in and of itself.  

    As for sigismund's question, yes the Beatles are still plenty popular even with the younger crown.  Their music does have "staying power".

    The message behind a lot of their music is subversive and foul but it does have a nice beat to it...   :cool:

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    « Reply #14 on: January 27, 2013, 08:03:11 PM »
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    • Anything that is subversive or foul comes after 1965.
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