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Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
« on: October 05, 2011, 10:38:15 AM »
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  • LETTER BY A
    FLORIDA TEACHER

    A TEACHER SPEAKS OUT



    This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are NOT U.S. citizens and who get the PELL Grant, which is a federal grant (no payback required) plus other federal grants to go to school?

    One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting a PELL Grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money leftover.

    She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a U.S. Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.'

    I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the U.S. is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for!

    I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a U.S. citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education.

    Something is wrong here. I am sorry, but after hearing that they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. That's a real slap in the face.  It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written.  The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.

    I don't care whether this offends someone or not but this is MY COUNTRY. IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- I just expect immigrants to come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA!
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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 04:55:50 PM »
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  • Another weak argument instead of focusing on the 'bigger picture'?  With all the insight that you have on how the world works and who's really in control I'm always surprised at you when you post stuff like this Matt. :confused1:


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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 09:02:53 PM »
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  • s2rea, agreed. Taking a positive spin on all this, maybe this article is the "wading pool" article for some new-to-reality person out there that will not understand the true "NWO-Bildebergers-are behind it all" articles. I could see this article being offensive to a range of Spanish people, but the point is this one person is free-riding, so to speak, by some people's standards.

    OK, I was stretching it there... trying to help you out Matthew and I'm Spanish too..

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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 09:17:11 PM »
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  • well, hear comes my first critic mark.... I agree with Matthew

    No other country gives their funding away to non citizens like we do.  

    no other country LETS in undocuмented people like we do...(yes I'm being pc)  

    bottom line everything has become monopoly money... and funds are given away to people without any invested interest in our country.

    people are so gung-ho on everyone on the even keel... well we are getting there.... what results when we don't get rewarded for are hard work??? because of being taxed for these grants and such??? then those who care will stop working hard and say they heck with it.  and then we will all live low. (btw I don't have my own home.. add the etc....)

    AND those who do use there funds to help others will not have the money to help those who really need.  third world countries... don't become that by themselves.

    o.k. click away. :):):)







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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 09:42:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: pat
    well, hear comes my first critic mark.... I agree with Matthew

    No other country gives their funding away to non citizens like we do.  

    no other country LETS in undocuмented people like we do...(yes I'm being pc)  

    bottom line everything has become monopoly money... and funds are given away to people without any invested interest in our country.

    people are so gung-ho on everyone on the even keel... well we are getting there.... what results when we don't get rewarded for our hard work??? because of being taxed for these grants and such??? then those who care will stop working hard and say they heck with it.  and then we will all live low. (btw I don't have my own home.. add the etc....)

    AND those who do use their funds to help others will not have the money to help those who really need it.  third world countries... don't become that by themselves.

    o.k. click away. :):):)









    post to correct my spelling :)
    Patti


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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 10:43:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: pat
    well, hear comes my first critic mark.... I agree with Matthew

    No other country gives their funding away to non citizens like we do.  

    no other country LETS in undocuмented people like we do...(yes I'm being pc)  

    bottom line everything has become monopoly money... and funds are given away to people without any invested interest in our country.

    people are so gung-ho on everyone on the even keel... well we are getting there.... what results when we don't get rewarded for are hard work??? because of being taxed for these grants and such??? then those who care will stop working hard and say they heck with it.  and then we will all live low. (btw I don't have my own home.. add the etc....)

    AND those who do use there funds to help others will not have the money to help those who really need.  third world countries... don't become that by themselves.

    o.k. click away. :):):)



    Hello Pat! Welcome!

    Thanks for your remarks. My point was, and I think most posters here who have the more-popular 'CI mentality' would agree, that if we're cool-aid drinkin, Puritano-Texan, Sarah-Palin lovin dummy caths, we could fall for this crap. If you want, I can give the counter argument to this  and tear it to peaces. But I wont. The whole idea of the 'big picture' I mentioned is that this is all a distraction. There's a remedy to everything in this country. And issues like this can easily be taken care of. But they aren't- why? Stay around Cathinfo long enough, and I think you'd be proud of your answer.

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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 10:45:23 PM »
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  • BTW- I gave you a thumbs up just for having the guts to disagree with people here.  :farmer:

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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 11:09:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: pat
    well, hear comes my first critic mark.... I agree with Matthew

    No other country gives their funding away to non citizens like we do.  

    no other country LETS in undocuмented people like we do...(yes I'm being pc)  

    bottom line everything has become monopoly money... and funds are given away to people without any invested interest in our country.

    people are so gung-ho on everyone on the even keel... well we are getting there.... what results when we don't get rewarded for are hard work??? because of being taxed for these grants and such??? then those who care will stop working hard and say they heck with it.  and then we will all live low. (btw I don't have my own home.. add the etc....)

    AND those who do use there funds to help others will not have the money to help those who really need.  third world countries... don't become that by themselves.

    o.k. click away. :):):)



    Hello Pat! Welcome!

    Thanks for your remarks. My point was, and I think most posters here who have the more-popular 'CI mentality' would agree, that if we're cool-aid drinkin, Puritano-Texan, Sarah-Palin lovin dummy caths, we could fall for this crap. If you want, I can give the counter argument to this  and tear it to peaces. But I wont. The whole idea of the 'big picture' I mentioned is that this is all a distraction. There's a remedy to everything in this country. And issues like this can easily be taken care of. But they aren't- why? Stay around Cathinfo long enough, and I think you'd be proud of your answer.



    hi. o.k. I can certainly understand that this would be a distraction and why. but I believe (and I am guilty of not speaking out enough) that we cannot remain silent  even though it is a distraction. getting to the source of issues imho involves courage and to start where ever we can to get to the source or if just to slow it down as much as possible.

    and I would have given a nod to your post to begin with but for some reason NWO-Bildebergers didn't click, when I reread I went OH YEAH. this "group" is only a year or so new to me  :).

    and.... thanks for the thumbs up! :)
    Patti


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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 05:37:53 AM »
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    I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the U.S. is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for!


      Not only no one feels guilty, but also it is a cause of proud for all of them:" see, america gives a chance to everybody regardless of who they are. It is why it is a giant in economics. It is built by immigrants."

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    AND those who do use there funds to help others will not have the money to help those who really need. third world countries... don't become that by themselves.


      They don't. Because they are made to believe that they can't. "you have traditions and morality to stop you from progressing? Come here and we will turn you into another Gerard Ford."

     
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    people are so gung-ho on everyone on the even keel... well we are getting there.... what results when we don't get rewarded for are hard work??? because of being taxed for these grants and such??? then those who care will stop working hard and say they heck with it. and then we will all live low. (btw I don't have my own home.. add the etc....)


      As they say:" I am going to immigrate to US and make a boy/girl fell in love with me and provide me with everything, a house, a car, a greencard."
      Some people think "american relationships" work miracle.

    Also, don't forget about the number of invalids who migrate because "america has great ways of helping the handicaps."
      A rich man I know wants to send his schizotypal son abroad because :"mental illness is not a stigma there!" Really?

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    Bankrupting the country to give non-citizens a free ride
    « Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 10:44:28 AM »
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  • The ordinary Americans are being dispossessed of their own country, their own government is going bankrupt, while they fight wars and heavily subsidize immigration into this country. (because of the power of the Jєωs)

    And people get indignant when it's pointed out.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 10:57:10 AM »
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  • If you want to know what's actually bankrupting this country, go visit a military base.

    The government brings in enough money to be able to provide benefits to everyone who needs (and doesn't need) them. Besides the arms industry (bio weapons included), billions of our tax dollars are poured into subsidized businesses who are not worth their salt, like the Shale plants, Monsanto, universities...  I could go on.

    One of the major factors that contributes to a large portion of the population being on benefits (who BTW are NOT immigrants) is the outsourcing of jobs to 3rd-world countries like China. Our economy could easily sustain everyone living here if businesses were forced to work within the country and the education system was reformed to encourage the creation of manufacturing jobs.

    I'm fed up with my cousins across the border being blamed for what the government is responsible for.

    The Nativists have been singing the same old song since the Irish came around, and again when my father's family landed at Elis Island. I'm sick of hearing it.  
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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    « Reply #11 on: October 06, 2011, 11:07:34 AM »
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  • Is the State of California virtually bankrupt because of the military?

    I mentioned the wars in my posts, but it's not just the marionette-stringed American military that is bankrupting the country - (and because of lack of opportunity young people shed their blood for the agenda of the Zionists) it is a fact that the opportunities for native born whites are constantly being reduced by the giving of special advantages to people coming here.

    I knew several foreign families (very nice people) with children in graduate school, living in the city on a small budget.  They get paid for these opportunities while the ordinary Americans sit in classrooms working on a worthless BA.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 06, 2011, 02:36:11 PM »
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  • Telesphorus said:
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    The ordinary Americans are being dispossessed of their own country,


    What are ordinary Americans?   The WASPs?  They weren't here first.  The Catholics were dispossessed by those WASPs.

    I agree the race issue is a distraction -- mostly.  Spain had a melting-pot culture that was quite harmonious except for a few skirmishes, because Catholics ruled instead of Jєωs.  The California of today is really like the Disney, Masonic version of Renaissance Spain; it's a melting pot but instead of the Church ruling and keeping certain restraints on heresy ( without forcing people to convert necessarily ) no one is brought together by anything except Jєωιѕн funny-money.  When that begins to run out, then you will see all the old divisions take over, race warfare, gang warfare, apocalyptic scenarios, etc.  But that again is part of the devil's plot ( carried out wittingly or unwittingly primarily by Jєωs ); and that is why people are objecting to Matthew posting articles like this.  It is the devil who wants us all to misdiagnose the problem and end up slaughtering each other.  

    The other races aren't the problem -- Jєωιѕн control is the problem, and it is well-known that when they have power over a people they engender chaos and strife and decay.  I don't think any more vivid example could possibly be furnished than America or France today ( in France, just replace Mexicans with Muslims, which of course is worse because Mexicans at least have some Catholic history ).

    The religious question is paramount; and the separation of Church and state is the real Achilles heel of America.  That being said, just just live in L.A. for a while and you will have to admit that the influx of Mexicans has gotten to the point of ridiculousness.  I sometimes go with Alex to a Benihana style restaurant where they used to have Japanese chefs who do tricks with knives and so on; they still have the chefs who do tricks, but now they are all Mexicans.  What's next, you go to an Oktoberfest and there are Mexican chicks wearing dirndls and serving steins of beer?

    White people, as Tele says, are all getting useless college degrees so they can be paper-pushing bureaucrats.  Those jobs are disappearing daily.  As for the blue-collar jobs, which we no longer even know how to do, they're mostly taken by Hispanics.  Do we blame them, or blame ourselves for being greedy, lazy and indulgent?  They did the jobs no one else wanted, and now people who sniffed at those jobs before are like "Hey, those are OUR jobs!!!"  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #13 on: October 06, 2011, 02:44:20 PM »
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  • People today act as though no country (no white country anyway) and its citizens have a legitimate title to their country, and that elites allowing mass migration of foreigners is not treated as dispossession because the citizens are told "your ancestors came here too once."  Taking that sort of reasoning to its logical conclusion why even have a border?

    The citizens of a country have a right to decide who may settle in it.  They haven't been asked.  This deluge of immigration comes in whether Republicans or Democrats are elected.  Hating the American system or blaming it on the Jєωs (of course they're largely to blame - as they are for feminism) doesn't mean it isn't wrong what's being done, and isn't outrageous the way even among conservatives and traditionalists one is attacked for pointing out the injustice of a system that allows the citizens (who have the true ethnicity of American) of a land to be gradually and systematically dispossessed of their dominion over the land and the opportunities therein by alien peoples.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 04:48:52 AM »
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  • What I find sad amongst many Anglo Traditionalists who are descendants of those European countries with populations high in Protestants (German,English, etc), is that you can see the influence they've obviously got from their own protestant cousins. The idea of a Country and its sovereignty is one thing. But to pretend one minute that you can see the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic hand that moves almost everything in America, then the next minute to completely disregard when speaking about a topic like this is baffling. My understanding is that this is a problem amongst many Trads.

    I know here in California, the problem of Republican-party-line Trads is linked, by one older gentleman I know, to propaganda put out in the 40s and 50s amongst those Catholics to help them 'fit-in' here in the US. Which is why you have so many who claim things like Washington having a death-bed conversion, etc. I can see its definitely worn of onto the children in many cases.  The beauty is that the spanish-influenced Trads, but it also seems those others who are mostly of non German/ English decent, are not influenced by this false patriotism. Those that are are living in two worlds, as is evident by their response to this type of agitprop.